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Injury report including a statement of our injury and rehab policies
Teach them how to run, how to move, how to lift. Lov eit. Wierd that it wasn't normal in any case.

And they are beign very coservative with injuries. Taking the full itme and building back thoroughly. Just music to my ears.
 
bit hard to gauge a player who doesn't get any midfield time in the seniors as a mid. My comment regarding the VFL is he stacks up well as a mid in the VFL (go look at his numbers) but he doesn't get that same chance in the seniors when selected, he plays bit roles.

The club is playing him wrong, put him in the position we actually drafted him for and lets really see if he can sink or swim. If he sinks then ill agree with you doubters and move him on.
I see similar, IMO he should be played as a mid as you said, then if he fails in the position he knows and was drafted to play, then try him forward or where ever.
 

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I see similar, IMO he should be played as a mid as you said, then if he fails in the position he knows and was drafted to play, then try him forward or where ever.
Agree, just a bit irritating that we are calling him a bust when he doesn't play midfield. The last time he actually got a decent crack was that final in Brissy and even though we lost, he actually did quite well.

Many critics here seem to just think "oh he only got 6 disposals against West Coast when he got picked so he is no good and doesn't deserve to play midfield, delist".
 
Better than Rance at the same age
We need KPFs.
Backiline: We lost Rioli & Grimes. Brown was fine. Lose Young & Gibcus from round zero.

Miller, Blight KPDs. maybe Kosi, Trainor.
Brown to returm when fit.
Balta out for 4.

Relatively settled.

Up forward, Balta, Naismith, Ryan, Kosi, Lefau, Lynch for 4 Bauer, Kmac

Lost Baker, JG, Dusty, Bolton.

we couldn;t take advantage when our mids got the ball in. Need every bit of goal scoring power. Lynch, Bauer & 1 or 2 KPFs.
Whoever. Fawcett if he's good enough
 
Teach them how to run, how to move, how to lift. Lov eit. Wierd that it wasn't normal in any case.

And they are beign very coservative with injuries. Taking the full itme and building back thoroughly. Just music to my ears.
He comes across so much more professional, has a clear strategy to give our boys long careers and get the best out of themselves instead of shuffling the cards every preseason to see what works and what destroys half our players.
 
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and look how that turned out
 
I’m onboard the Fawcett hype. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone have such an impressive preseason since Todd Elton.
Shaun Hampson

Now that bloke mesmerized carlton supporters for years and the Richmond

Hampson , Pruess , Elton all stole an AFL career
 
Injury report was an interesting read, not sure if this is the case but did they put Gibcus on a similar timeline to Hotton or was he just his running buddy? The way it was outlined made it sound like the players were cheering for both of them.

Gibcus not a good healer it seems. Is it just his genetics or does he struggle with being a professional during rehab?
 

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bit hard to gauge a player who doesn't get any midfield time in the seniors as a mid. My comment regarding the VFL is he stacks up well as a mid in the VFL (go look at his numbers) but he doesn't get that same chance in the seniors when selected, he plays bit roles.

The club is playing him wrong, put him in the position we actually drafted him for and lets really see if he can sink or swim. If he sinks then ill agree with you doubters and move him on.

They’d see him get out competed and performed by better clearance mids all week at in drills and training. They don’t need to see it on game day too.


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Shaun Hampson

Now that bloke mesmerized carlton supporters for years and the Richmond

Hampson , Pruess , Elton all stole an AFL career
Hammer wasn’t great, but not in Tod Elton’s class.
If you had have said Cleve Hughes or Jayden Post , I’d have paid that!
KB was massive Post fan, had him penciled in as our long term chf.
 
Don’t make too many comments, just enjoy all up your banter. Having said that I need to put my two bobs worth into the ACL talk. My son busted his ACL at 15 years old. Originally diagnosed with “just” a subluxed patella, he did about 6 weeks of rehab. Then at training in a warm up he changed direction and we heard the dreaded crack. We prayed it was his joint moving a bit but after a scan it was the big one. Not a shred of the bloody thing could be seen - as if it just exploded. Went to the surgeon who was a legend. He said he normally would not operate on a 15 year old straight away because the outcomes for kids are boosted by a period of “pre-hab” where the surrounding structures are strengthened to support the eventual rehabilitation process. Since he had done six weeks of painful, disciplined work he agreed to do the op. To cut a long story short the lad got to play open aged cricket 7 months later and footy training and playing 11 months later.

Hotton is younger than Gibcus (3 or 4 years is heaps at their age) so his prognosis will always be better than Gibcus, genetic issues notwithstanding. So comparing these lads is pointless. Also, depending on where the graft is harvested from, hamstrings (3 of them), patella tendon or cadaver donor (not sure if these are still done), the rate of recovery varies greatly. Seeing as Gibcus had horrendous hamstring issues leading up to his ACL, the hamstring option may not have been right for him. This may be why he is further back, combined with the comparative youth of the bloke some are comparing him to.

All our ACL blokes will have vastly different recoveries so we should chill a bit and let them get it done. Our new fitness bloke is certainly on the right track and his pre-hab approach in teaching young blokes running techniques and body development is certainly an improvement on what looked like a one size fits all approach of the past. Whilst not preventing ACL ruptures per-se, he is giving them a fighting chance in the expectation a certain percentage of these blokes will hit the dreaded jackpot. Genetic luck aside, this is about all anyone can do.
 
Don’t make too many comments, just enjoy all up your banter. Having said that I need to put my two bobs worth into the ACL talk. My son busted his ACL at 15 years old. Originally diagnosed with “just” a subluxed patella, he did about 6 weeks of rehab. Then at training in a warm up he changed direction and we heard the dreaded crack. We prayed it was his joint moving a bit but after a scan it was the big one. Not a shred of the bloody thing could be seen - as if it just exploded. Went to the surgeon who was a legend. He said he normally would not operate on a 15 year old straight away because the outcomes for kids are boosted by a period of “pre-hab” where the surrounding structures are strengthened to support the eventual rehabilitation process. Since he had done six weeks of painful, disciplined work he agreed to do the op. To cut a long story short the lad got to play open aged cricket 7 months later and footy training and playing 11 months later.

Hotton is younger than Gibcus (3 or 4 years is heaps at their age) so his prognosis will always be better than Gibcus, genetic issues notwithstanding. So comparing these lads is pointless. Also, depending on where the graft is harvested from, hamstrings (3 of them), patella tendon or cadaver donor (not sure if these are still done), the rate of recovery varies greatly. Seeing as Gibcus had horrendous hamstring issues leading up to his ACL, the hamstring option may not have been right for him. This may be why he is further back, combined with the comparative youth of the bloke some are comparing him to.

All our ACL blokes will have vastly different recoveries so we should chill a bit and let them get it done. Our new fitness bloke is certainly on the right track and his pre-hab approach in teaching young blokes running techniques and body development is certainly an improvement on what looked like a one size fits all approach of the past. Whilst not preventing ACL ruptures per-se, he is giving them a fighting chance in the expectation a certain percentage of these blokes will hit the dreaded jackpot. Genetic luck aside, this is about all anyone can do.
also louie did the hamstring surgeries himself on gibcus with a rusty scalpel from the 1880s
 
Don’t make too many comments, just enjoy all up your banter. Having said that I need to put my two bobs worth into the ACL talk. My son busted his ACL at 15 years old. Originally diagnosed with “just” a subluxed patella, he did about 6 weeks of rehab. Then at training in a warm up he changed direction and we heard the dreaded crack. We prayed it was his joint moving a bit but after a scan it was the big one. Not a shred of the bloody thing could be seen - as if it just exploded. Went to the surgeon who was a legend. He said he normally would not operate on a 15 year old straight away because the outcomes for kids are boosted by a period of “pre-hab” where the surrounding structures are strengthened to support the eventual rehabilitation process. Since he had done six weeks of painful, disciplined work he agreed to do the op. To cut a long story short the lad got to play open aged cricket 7 months later and footy training and playing 11 months later.

Hotton is younger than Gibcus (3 or 4 years is heaps at their age) so his prognosis will always be better than Gibcus, genetic issues notwithstanding. So comparing these lads is pointless. Also, depending on where the graft is harvested from, hamstrings (3 of them), patella tendon or cadaver donor (not sure if these are still done), the rate of recovery varies greatly. Seeing as Gibcus had horrendous hamstring issues leading up to his ACL, the hamstring option may not have been right for him. This may be why he is further back, combined with the comparative youth of the bloke some are comparing him to.

All our ACL blokes will have vastly different recoveries so we should chill a bit and let them get it done. Our new fitness bloke is certainly on the right track and his pre-hab approach in teaching young blokes running techniques and body development is certainly an improvement on what looked like a one size fits all approach of the past. Whilst not preventing ACL ruptures per-se, he is giving them a fighting chance in the expectation a certain percentage of these blokes will hit the dreaded jackpot. Genetic luck aside, this is about all anyone can do.
I just don’t know why we even focus on ACL rehabbing players unless they’ve got near the 12 months and are not even running. Usually most ACL players take another year to get back into some type of form. Please don’t use Ashcroft as an example. He’s not the norm.
 
I just don’t know why we even focus on ACL rehabbing players unless they’ve got near the 12 months and are not even running. Usually most ACL players take another year to get back into some type of form. Please don’t use Ashcroft as an example. He’s not the norm.
But he is the norm














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