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Kmac is the ideal candidate to play as the sub imo. An experienced body in that position while not playing the entire game is still part of the entire match day experience and would be important for the younger lads without completely putting him to the side to rot in the VFL.

He’s not shit. If Hugo or Banks were to go down at any point he’s straight into the B22.
 
not sure if joking, but honestly I think this too.

if we get any games at full health out of him, consider it a bonus

you can only sympathise and imagine where his mental health is at after this long out and still can't even do a pre-season.
That's a little jumping at shadows. He got back eventually after his hammy, did a knee landing after a mark, anyone one can do that. 5 ACL's at Richmond and 4 at Brissy makes it a pretty common injury.

Gibcus is healing slower than anticipated, but he is still progressing. Started running a week or so ago on the track. He might spend another 4-5 months or so doing the preseason he missed but that would be June. Maybe he's back in May, maybe July, but he will be back. I think Hotton is in much the same boat, just back running. Every knee is different, but most players come back from them and they do a lot of work to make the legs stronger so not many do the same knee again.
 

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blooze have said they want to be more defense focused gonna radically change their gameplan

in rd 1 they'll be like headless chooks , big sexy will kick 8 and maurice junior will spill the ball in our 50 5000 times
 
Sorry but this is why i didn’t want Macca retained for 2025. He’s had a terrific career and during our dynasty period the team always seemed more stable with him in it.

But the fact we are talking about trying to find a midfield spot for him?!? What on earth for? We are finishing bottom-4 and probably bottom-2. We cannot remove 23 valuable midfield games from our new draftees, McAuliffe, Sonsie, Ross or even Dow because Macca might make a fist of tagging.

This is why I didn’t want him retained, because we would feel we needed experienced and mature bodies and he will end up playing most games and take those games off the development of youngsters who will be around when we are next contending.

Given he’s on the list he should be in the VfL helping the kids, driving training standards, providing leadership and keeping up enthusiasm as the losses mount. He shouldn’t be in the senior team at this stage of our development, and in the words of Terry Wallace, if he’s attending Centre Bounces while McAuliffe is the SUB and Sonsie js on a HFF “I’ll spew up”.


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You had me until Dow.
 
Keidean Coleman did his ACL 2 weeks before Gibcus and is going to push for r1, while Gibcus is still months away.

Bit of a worry....
hope he keeps his chin up

maybe will do a Dylan Grimes and suddenly go ~ injury free for the second half of his career after a torrid time early on.
 
Sorry but this is why i didn’t want Macca retained for 2025. He’s had a terrific career and during our dynasty period the team always seemed more stable with him in it.

But the fact we are talking about trying to find a midfield spot for him?!? What on earth for? We are finishing bottom-4 and probably bottom-2. We cannot remove 23 valuable midfield games from our new draftees, McAuliffe, Sonsie, Ross or even Dow because Macca might make a fist of tagging.

This is why I didn’t want him retained, because we would feel we needed experienced and mature bodies and he will end up playing most games and take those games off the development of youngsters who will be around when we are next contending.

Given he’s on the list he should be in the VfL helping the kids, driving training standards, providing leadership and keeping up enthusiasm as the losses mount. He shouldn’t be in the senior team at this stage of our development, and in the words of Terry Wallace, if he’s attending Centre Bounces while McAuliffe is the SUB and Sonsie js on a HFF “I’ll spew up”.


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Dow is basically proven not up to being a first choice AFL midfielder & cannot play any other position. You are not making allowances for his development at selection.

McAuliffe was miles off having an AFL midfield tank in 2024. Unless that is fixed in one interrupted off-season(it won't be) if he plays major midfield minutes at AFL level, our midfield will not function in a way that allows the rest of the team to function properly.

Sonsie and Ross(& Dow) are probably the exact reason McIntosh is being trained for this role. They are weak defensively. Based on what we have seen from them previously, you put any of them in the midfield for major minutes, it starts leaking.

A couple of the new draftees look like they might be the damage in there but are first year of course, and will only benefit from having big bodies around them.

Regardless of our expectations for the season, we still want the team functioning well, and especially the midfield. If McIntosh(or anyone else) can play a role in there better than the also rans, and it allows the team to function better overall, then get him in there.

I don't agree with the thinking that says you banish guys from the list because you are frightened the selectors will see them as the best available option at some point. This is an argument FOR keeping someone on the list. If the role breathes new life into McIntosh's career, we should be all for it. It is not going to cost the next Cotchin or Martin midfild minutes, those types will always take priority. If it costs the next Anthony Miles or Collier-Dawkins midfield minutes, then who cares?
 
blooze have said they want to be more defense focused gonna radically change their gameplan

in rd 1 they'll be like headless chooks , big sexy will kick 8 and maurice junior will spill the ball in our 50 5000 times
Lynch owes us a Coleman
 
Dow is basically proven not up to being a first choice AFL midfielder & cannot play any other position. You are not making allowances for his development at selection.

McAuliffe was miles off having an AFL midfield tank in 2024. Unless that is fixed in one interrupted off-season(it won't be) if he plays major midfield minutes at AFL level, our midfield will not function in a way that allows the rest of the team to function properly.

Sonsie and Ross(& Dow) are probably the exact reason McIntosh is being trained for this role. They are weak defensively. Based on what we have seen from them previously, you put any of them in the midfield for major minutes, it starts leaking.

A couple of the new draftees look like they might be the damage in there but are first year of course, and will only benefit from having big bodies around them.

Regardless of our expectations for the season, we still want the team functioning well, and especially the midfield. If McIntosh(or anyone else) can play a role in there better than the also rans, and it allows the team to function better overall, then get him in there.

I don't agree with the thinking that says you banish guys from the list because you are frightened the selectors will see them as the best available option at some point. This is an argument FOR keeping someone on the list. If the role breathes new life into McIntosh's career, we should be all for it. It is not going to cost the next Cotchin or Martin midfild minutes, those types will always take priority. If it costs the next Anthony Miles or Collier-Dawkins midfield minutes, then who cares?
McIntosh has been a fantastic servant but he is pretty much done. Watching him live last year, he’s now too slow and will only add to our pace problems if he is playing through the middle.

If we are going to be in a development phase anyway, we are better served by giving midfield minutes to young blokes rather than McIntosh who is unlikely to go beyond this year.
 

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That's a little jumping at shadows. He got back eventually after his hammy, did a knee landing after a mark, anyone one can do that. 5 ACL's at Richmond and 4 at Brissy makes it a pretty common injury.

Gibcus is healing slower than anticipated, but he is still progressing. Started running a week or so ago on the track. He might spend another 4-5 months or so doing the preseason he missed but that would be June. Maybe he's back in May, maybe July, but he will be back. I think Hotton is in much the same boat, just back running. Every knee is different, but most players come back from them and they do a lot of work to make the legs stronger so not many do the same knee again.
He was running in October. That then stopped pre-Christmas and he went to stationary drills only. Definitely had some sort of setback that they've not been up front about.

His manager mentioned on SEN at the end of the year that he had to go back in for a clean-up on his knee but nothing about it from the club.
 
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blooze have said they want to be more defense focused gonna radically change their gameplan

in rd 1 they'll be like headless chooks , big sexy will kick 8 and maurice junior will spill the ball in our 50 5000 times

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Keidean Coleman did his ACL 2 weeks before Gibcus and is going to push for r1, while Gibcus is still months away.

Bit of a worry....
Kieran Coleman didnt have louie bashing his knee in with a hammer on the night of the injury
 
hope he keeps his chin up

maybe will do a Dylan Grimes and suddenly go ~ injury free for the second half of his career after a torrid time early on.
grimes didnt do an acl
 
McIntosh has been a fantastic servant but he is pretty much done. Watching him live last year, he’s now too slow and will only add to our pace problems if he is playing through the middle.

If we are going to be in a development phase anyway, we are better served by giving midfield minutes to young blokes rather than McIntosh who is unlikely to go beyond this year.
I agree Kmac is pretty much done, but we’ve got 8 new draftees that will need to be eased into the AFL system, a bucket load of ACLs, a couple of our better mids who spend more time in the medical room than on the ground, and our no 1 ruck and kpf who’ll need to be nursed through the season.
Ok Kmac doesn’t play in all of those positions, but he’s durable, can play a variety of roles, and will take hits for his younger teammates.
23 rounds is a gruelling season, he’ll have a role to play .
 
McIntosh has been a fantastic servant but he is pretty much done. Watching him live last year, he’s now too slow and will only add to our pace problems if he is playing through the middle.

If we are going to be in a development phase anyway, we are better served by giving midfield minutes to young blokes rather than McIntosh who is unlikely to go beyond this year.

We are discussing something as yet unknown here. For all we know the club could be training McIntosh to play the role in the VFL to allow the younger mids there to shine.

But I have faith that if he is selected in that or any other role in the AFL team it is because the selectors see good reason to pick him.
 
He was running in October. That then stopped pre-Christmas and he went to stationary drills only. Definitely had some sort of setback that they've not be up front about.

His manager mentioned on SEN at the end of the year that he had to go back in for a clean-up on his knee but nothing about it from the club.
Maybe he did a bit of meniscus damage, the usual knee flair up, or maybe a problem with the injury. He had a setback, not that unusual but early days. I haven't heard somebody not recover from an ACL for a long time, maybe there have been but we will have to wait and see.
 

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