Training Pre-Season 2024 - they're back

[Hendo_21]

Perryman is a gun, but signed a contract that is well below his worth.

Concerned if we lowball him in the next contract we may lose him.

What are you basing him signing a well below contract on?

 

[Colonial]

What are you basing him signing a well below contract on?

Things I’ve heard.

 

[dlanod]

I don't think Perryman is as highly regarded as some on here seem to thing.

He's definitely an above average player, doesn't make many mistakes, but some of the comments have the whiff of Vic media and their insistence that every player is a "star".

 

[GWS Goose]

I don't think Perryman is as highly regarded as some on here seem to thing.

He's definitely an above average player, doesn't make many mistakes, but some of the comments have the whiff of Vic media and their insistence that every player is a "star".

he rated inside the top 100 players in the league this season.

 

[Orange crush]

I don't think Perryman is as highly regarded as some on here seem to thing.

He's definitely an above average player, doesn't make many mistakes, but some of the comments have the whiff of Vic media and their insistence that every player is a "star".

We can't all be Brandon Starcevich

 

[dlanod]

he rated inside the top 100 players in the league this season.

I'd have him somewhere around 9-12 on our list so we must be well-represented!

 

[dlanod]

We can't all be Brandon Starcevich

Ok...? I'd take Perryman over Starcevich for everything but locking down a player (and Perryman does a decent job there), but sure?

 

[GWS Goose]

I'd have him somewhere around 9-12 on our list so we must be well-represented!

from memory he was 6 or 7th (on ratings)

 

[Orange crush]

Ok...? I'd take Perryman over Starcevich for everything but locking down a player (and Perryman does a decent job there), but sure?

Starce is very well regarded across the comp ... Perryman, as you rightly say, is a better footballer, significantly better. So id say that he is rightly well regarded internally

 

[dlanod]

Starce is very well regarded across the comp ... Perryman, as you rightly say, is a better footballer, significantly better. So id say that he is rightly well regarded internally

The context of the original comment was about him being a gun and signing a contact well under his worth. I guess it applies to both of them - I think they're both above average players who'd be in everyone's best 22, but I wouldn't consider either to be a gun/star/other superlative (and I wouldn't be breaking the bank to retain either - and that's liking both of them on my team(s)).

 

[dlanod]

from memory he was 6 or 7th (on ratings)

Oh, was it algorithmic? Sorry, I thought you meant some kind of poll or human-based determination given the context.

 

[Orange crush]

The context of the original comment was about him being a gun and signing a contact well under his worth. I guess it applies to both of them - I think they're both above average players who'd be in everyone's best 22, but I wouldn't consider either to be a gun/star/other superlative (and I wouldn't be breaking the bank to retain either - and that's liking both of them on my team(s)).

I agree on not breaking the bank ... and doubt they will.

 

[Hendo_21]

Good player and hopefully someone we can retain long term, think it sends a good message that we're able to keep the academy boys long term as well but ultimately the type of player that is disposable if a club talks themselves into him taking on a bigger role then we can offer. Someone that I'd be prepared to let walk if it gets to that point.

 

[Brave New World]

Run it again: Why Adam Kingsley

Adam Kingsley

Age

49

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

is confident the Orange Tsunami will be in action from the opening bounce

By LACHLAN MCKIRDY

CONTENT PRODUCER

NEWS CORP AUSTRALIA SPORTS NEWSROOM

06 FEBRUARY 2024

Adam Kingsley

Adam Kingsley

Age

49

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

expects the Giants to pick up exactly where they left off as they search for a fast start to the 2024 season.

The Giants lit up the AFL during their run home last year, winning seven games in a row to propel them into finals contention and become genuine contenders for the premiership.

However, that form was preceded by a slow start to the season where they won only three of their first 10 matches.

That stretch was put down to a lack of familiarity with the Giants’ new game plan and Kingsley is confident that those teething problems are a thing of the past.

“My expectation is that we play the entire year like we finished last year,” Kingsley said. “And there’s no reason that can’t be the case, we know we’re capable of it because we’ve done it.

“So there shouldn’t be any reason why we couldn’t play that style of play from the opening round. That’s my mindset.

“That doesn’t necessarily mean that we’ll win every game or that we’ll be able to recreate that to the level we did. But that’s my expectation that we’ll do that and take each week as it comes.”

The contrast between the Giants’ start to 2023 and the end was best seen in their defence.

Across the opening three months, they were in the bottom four in the competition for points against, points against from turnovers and opposition scores per inside 50. From round 13 onwards, they were the best in the AFL in all those categories.

GWS' Defensive Profile

Statistic	Rds 1-12	Rank	Rds 13-24	Rank
Chain to Score Against %	23%	16th	15%	1st
Points Against	93.6	15th	69.3	1st
Oppo Score per Inside 50 %	50%	17th	35%	1st
Points Against from Turnovers	54.0	15th	36.1	1st

They also found more rhythm and consistency in their forward pressure. After round 10 and beyond, the Giants were in the top four teams in the competition for forward half intercepts and points from forward half intercepts.

With only draftees added to their list for 2024, Kingsley has been able to dedicate more time to little intricacies in the game plan to take them to the next level.

“I’d say [pre-season has been] less complicated in a sense that we don’t have to educate and focus on the game plan as much as what we did last year,” he said.

“But we’ve still got to make sure we’re ticking it all off and trying to improve where we can and where we think we need to.

“So there’s a different set of challenges presented and I’m sure that’ll be the case every year. [We’re] trying to build our games individually, play our roles better and try and be better players.”

Giants Forward Half & Pressure Game

Statistic	Rds 1-9	Rank	Rds 10-24	Rank
Time in Forward Half Diff	-3:52	14th	+3:37	6th
Inside 50 Diff	-3.4	14th	+4.7	5th
Forward Half Intercepts	22.6	11th	26.2	3rd
Points from Forward Half Intercepts	26.2	10th	30.9	3rd
Pressure Applied	180	9th	187	3rd

One of the key areas that Kingsley has worked on is challenging his players to become critical thinkers. During their intense pre-season camp in the Blue Mountains, physically exhausting exercises like eight-hour hikes were combined with solving puzzles and orienteering exercises.

The second-year coach wants the Giants to not only be the hardest-working team in the AFL but also the most intelligent.

“The Blue Mountains is a beautiful spot but they had challenging parts to the hikes,” Kingsley said.

“I mean, you’ve got to tap into their minds as well as their bodies. Particularly under fatigue when you’re asking them to make decisions out on the field.

“That can be at times difficult to practice so you try to recreate those situations any way you can. So one of those was challenging them mentally while they were fatigued during a hike.”

Because of their stable list, it will be a similar looking line-up for the Giants this season. Young players such as Tom Green

12

Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

and Finn Callaghan have already been predicted to go to the next level in one of the competition’s elite midfields.

However, one name that has stood out in pre-season is Darcy Jones. The 19-year-old didn’t play a game across his first year due to an ACL injury last March, and Kingsley believes the diminutive midfielder could come in and elevate the side.

“He’s recovered fully, has been back into full training and played a quarter [of match simulation],” Kingsley said.

“He plays a really important role for us. I think he’s got that good mix of offence and defence, he’s got the capacity to be that sort of player.

“He’s yet to prove that at AFL level because he’s yet to play a game. But I have high hopes for him.

“He’s had a terrific summer and we’re looking at him as one of those players who can potentially improve us heading into this year.”

 

[Hendo_21]

Run it again: Why Adam Kingsley is confident the Orange Tsunami will be in action from the opening bounce

By LACHLAN MCKIRDY

CONTENT PRODUCER

NEWS CORP AUSTRALIA SPORTS NEWSROOM

06 FEBRUARY 2024

Adam Kingsley expects the Giants to pick up exactly where they left off as they search for a fast start to the 2024 season.

The Giants lit up the AFL during their run home last year, winning seven games in a row to propel them into finals contention and become genuine contenders for the premiership.

However, that form was preceded by a slow start to the season where they won only three of their first 10 matches.

That stretch was put down to a lack of familiarity with the Giants’ new game plan and Kingsley is confident that those teething problems are a thing of the past.

“My expectation is that we play the entire year like we finished last year,” Kingsley said. “And there’s no reason that can’t be the case, we know we’re capable of it because we’ve done it.

“So there shouldn’t be any reason why we couldn’t play that style of play from the opening round. That’s my mindset.

“That doesn’t necessarily mean that we’ll win every game or that we’ll be able to recreate that to the level we did. But that’s my expectation that we’ll do that and take each week as it comes.”

The contrast between the Giants’ start to 2023 and the end was best seen in their defence.

Across the opening three months, they were in the bottom four in the competition for points against, points against from turnovers and opposition scores per inside 50. From round 13 onwards, they were the best in the AFL in all those categories.

GWS' Defensive Profile

Statistic	Rds 1-12	Rank	Rds 13-24	Rank
Chain to Score Against %	23%	16th	15%	1st
Points Against	93.6	15th	69.3	1st
Oppo Score per Inside 50 %	50%	17th	35%	1st
Points Against from Turnovers	54.0	15th	36.1	1st

They also found more rhythm and consistency in their forward pressure. After round 10 and beyond, the Giants were in the top four teams in the competition for forward half intercepts and points from forward half intercepts.

With only draftees added to their list for 2024, Kingsley has been able to dedicate more time to little intricacies in the game plan to take them to the next level.

“I’d say [pre-season has been] less complicated in a sense that we don’t have to educate and focus on the game plan as much as what we did last year,” he said.

“But we’ve still got to make sure we’re ticking it all off and trying to improve where we can and where we think we need to.

“So there’s a different set of challenges presented and I’m sure that’ll be the case every year. [We’re] trying to build our games individually, play our roles better and try and be better players.”

Giants Forward Half & Pressure Game

Statistic	Rds 1-9	Rank	Rds 10-24	Rank
Time in Forward Half Diff	-3:52	14th	+3:37	6th
Inside 50 Diff	-3.4	14th	+4.7	5th
Forward Half Intercepts	22.6	11th	26.2	3rd
Points from Forward Half Intercepts	26.2	10th	30.9	3rd
Pressure Applied	180	9th	187	3rd

One of the key areas that Kingsley has worked on is challenging his players to become critical thinkers. During their intense pre-season camp in the Blue Mountains, physically exhausting exercises like eight-hour hikes were combined with solving puzzles and orienteering exercises.

The second-year coach wants the Giants to not only be the hardest-working team in the AFL but also the most intelligent.

“The Blue Mountains is a beautiful spot but they had challenging parts to the hikes,” Kingsley said.

“I mean, you’ve got to tap into their minds as well as their bodies. Particularly under fatigue when you’re asking them to make decisions out on the field.

“That can be at times difficult to practice so you try to recreate those situations any way you can. So one of those was challenging them mentally while they were fatigued during a hike.”

Because of their stable list, it will be a similar looking line-up for the Giants this season. Young players such as Tom Green and Finn Callaghan have already been predicted to go to the next level in one of the competition’s elite midfields.

However, one name that has stood out in pre-season is Darcy Jones. The 19-year-old didn’t play a game across his first year due to an ACL injury last March, and Kingsley believes the diminutive midfielder could come in and elevate the side.

“He’s recovered fully, has been back into full training and played a quarter [of match simulation],” Kingsley said.

“He plays a really important role for us. I think he’s got that good mix of offence and defence, he’s got the capacity to be that sort of player.

“He’s yet to prove that at AFL level because he’s yet to play a game. But I have high hopes for him.

“He’s had a terrific summer and we’re looking at him as one of those players who can potentially improve us heading into this year.”

2 years running now where Jones is getting pumped up, pretty exciting. Wonder if there's anythign in him being tagged as a midfielder and not as a forward, could be someone that bounces between inside and out obviously has great athleticism could add some more speed through there. Also at least me when I think of the second half of last year I instantly think of our offense but it's a cool reminder just how awesome the defence was last year to basically switch gears from near the bottom to the best is unreal, all the personnel in place to be the best from the jump.

 

[Giant Strides]

Solid defence from Harry Rowston in this clip!

 

[Orange crush]

Solid defence from Harry Rowston in this clip!

Greener didn’t enjoy it

 

[GWS Goose]

Solid defence from Harry Rowston in this clip!

on Tom Green no less.

That, although only one clip is very promising.

 

[Colonial]

 

[Danny88]

Gee I would love to see the match sim live streamed

I would definitely tune in

 

[Giant Strides]

Greener didn’t enjoy it

No, he didn't.

But I did. And I'm sure the coaches did.

It's one highlight, so let's not read too much into it ... but if it's representative of Rowston improving his game, then when he's a teammate of Green it's a good thing!

 

[Giant Strides]

Some of the highlights from this story:

Dynamic forward Callum Brown is coming off the best season of his career but if Friday’s match simulation is anything to go by then the speedy Irishman looks set to take his game to another level in 2024. Showing an innate ability to find space and be in the right spot at the right time, the powerful 188cm forward caused headaches for opposing defenders across all four quarters as he created numerous scoring opportunities for himself and teammates.

Finn Callaghan was another who looks ready to explode in 2024 with the smooth-moving midfielder showcasing his big summer with several eye-catching clearances as he burst from stoppage and covered the ground well to complement his silky skills by foot. Winner of the GIANTS’ 2023 Rising Star Award, Callaghan looks primed to continue his climb towards being a key cog in the GIANTS side this season, with the 20-year-old set to combine time on the wing with more time as a line-breaking inside midfielder.

Attacking defender Lachie Ash also caught the eye of those in attendance, as well as that of teammate Tom Green who at one point had to plead with teammates to find out who was opposed to Ash due to his high volume of possessions.

Another standout from Friday’s match sim was the play of untried 22-year-old Wade Derksen, who after a strong 2023 VFL season put his name in contention for a senior call up with an impressive outing. The GIANTS’ leading VFL goalkicker last season with 35 majors from 18 games, Derksen was stationed down back in Friday’s session where his powerful 194cm frame was on full display as took several intercept marks as the third tall defender - including a monster pack mark on the shoulders of teammates in the third quarter. Derksen has spent this pre-season training with the defenders.

A pair of young GIANTS looking to break into the senior line-up also did their chances no harm on Friday, with running machine Jacob Wehr finding plenty of the footy on the wing while athletic draftee Joe Fonti showcased his bag of tricks with a pair of strong marks and some dash and dare off half-back to impress onlookers.

 

[Colonial]

Gee I would love to see the match sim live streamed

I would definitely tune in

I think I’ve asked multiple times and nope.

We used to be able to go to the intraclub games back in the day.

 

[Colonial]

Wish we could get a longer video instead of grabs.

 

[Giant Pete]