Public vs Private School funding

[Reg Grundy35]

How so? There are 4 million students in Australia any year, 36% of who attend private / independent schools. That's 1.44M students, or the equivalent of 1,440 schools based on an average of 1,000 students per school. Clearly if government funding of private schools ceased they wouldn't all close but a large percentage - and some argue a majority - of students would be forced back into the public system. If you don't believe that then what would happen?

Defunding private schools is not on, but we can make education fairer

A common vision between public and non-government schools could prevent a great social divide.

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No they wouldnt. Most of those private school parent would sell a kidney before theyd let their spawn mingle with the public scum.

 

[Sttew]

The buildings would not just evaporate. The teachers would not disappear into thin air.

Nationalise them.

Not sure how bad things are where you live but in Victoria the government has commissioned a report which says that by 2028 there will be a shortfall of more than 5000 teachers. Teachers are in fact disappearing. Leaving the system.

And how would nationalising the system work? Compulsory acquisition of properties. No government could afford it, or are you advocating confiscation?

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[Reg Grundy35]

The buildings would not just evaporate. The teachers would not disappear into thin air.

Nationalise them.

its a bullshit defence. "We are already so advantaged that if you take some of our advantage away the disadvantaged will be worse off.\" Arrogant twats/

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

According to the independent schools themselves, the proportion of students overall in a private school has risen from 4% to 18% in around 50 years. Yet the mere thought that we could reverse that trend over a similar period is bewildering to some people and we're now talking about land confiscations.

 

[evolved2]

According to the independent schools themselves, the proportion of students overall in a private school has risen from 4% to 18% in around 50 years. Yet the mere thought that we could reverse that trend over a similar period is bewildering to some people and we're now talking about land confiscations.

Is there any reason why the average person would support a change in trend?

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

Is there any reason why the average person would support a change in trend?

Budget is getting tight, we can't afford to fund everyone's lifestyle choices forever.

 

[evolved2]

Budget is getting tight, we can't afford to fund everyone's lifestyle choices forever.

It's cheaper to fund private schooling, right?

 

[Gralin]

The buildings would not just evaporate. The teachers would not disappear into thin air.

Nationalise them.

It's the where would people live if landlords sold their investment properties argument all over again

 

[nut]

It's cheaper to fund private schooling, right?

How?
Wouldn’t the fees be better spent on other things?
If your total GDP spending on education is higher than countries that spend less with a public system that provides better education results? What’s the point?

 

[evolved2]

How?
Wouldn’t the fees be better spent on other things?
If your total GDP spending on education is higher than countries that spend less with a public system that provides better education results? What’s the point?

Equality is an impossible ideal. Choice is better.

The taxpayer burden is less for private than public schooling.

 

[nut]

Equality is an impossible ideal. Choice is better.

The taxpayer burden is less for private than public schooling.

You are forgetting the entire burden on society. Having a 2 tier education system does create inequality…. And then you get Trump.
Your taxes and your own money is paying for that inequality regardless….you are paying more for police.. security systems..the court system, prison system .. welfare … etc etc…

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Private school families should assimilate with the wider community.

 

[nut]

Private school families should assimilate with the wider community.

Well that’s the other benefit of a one tier system education system. Communities helping communities.

 

[evolved2]

You are forgetting the entire burden on society. Having a 2 tier education system does create inequality…. And then you get Trump.
Your taxes and your own money is paying for that inequality regardless….you are paying more for police.. security systems..the court system, prison system .. welfare … etc etc…

Nobody has posted a system that will reduce inequality, so I'm happy to keep the status quo.

There are far bigger fish to fry.

 

[nut]

Nobody has posted a system that will reduce inequality, so I'm happy to keep the status quo.

There are far bigger fish to fry.

Nordic states….

 

[Sttew]

Nordic states….

Go move there. You’ve been banging on about them for years.

 

[nut]

Go move there. You’ve been banging on about them for years.

Great answer fir making Australia better .. twit

 

[Bloods86]

Go move there. You’ve been banging on about them for years.

Masterful response, much thinking.

Yes, the only logical response to a problem in your country is to leave it. Strange that this advice is never taken up when the same people are complaining about things or highlighting their own perceived problems on other boards.