Umpiring Questionable Umpiring Decisions

[smasha]

Old habits die hard. Tigers under Dimma had been pushing and going beyond the boundaries for years. And getting away with that sort of brinkmanship enough times to make it worthwhile to persist with.

This ole myth lol.
Dimma getting a smorgasbord of frees now when he's not wearing yellow and black.
Enjoy em after a successful 3-0-100 campaign.
The Benny 3-0-75 vision realised.
Tigers 4 life moving on to other pursuits.
Yze our man now.
Doing a great job.

 

[Fadge]

You mean like Nick daicos using the umpire as a shield and never being called back?

I've no idea what you're referring to, but all I want to see is reasonably consistent interpretation and application of the rules, and the way they are written currently, the umpires have no chance.

 

[Fadge]

Do you know what the game would look like if it was adjudicated to the letter of the law?

And that right there is the core problem.

 

[smasha]

The rort of Richmond goes on despite the supposed change in the htb rule.

 

[BF Tiger]

I think we can all expect to see Fadge to cry harder in this thread when he sees someone get away with something that somewhere, somehow was interpreted as a free against the Pies, regardless of how KOTD the Pies are by the umpires most of the time.

Cry harder Fadge. The rest of us love it when you do.

 

[THECHIEFTON]

You see lots of push in the backs not paid but then they decide to pay that one against Vlastuin.

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

Can someone please explain why the Tom Greene bump on Sicily at with 1:20min to go was i) paid a free and ii) was paid downfield?

If it was paid downfield then it must be because it was after Sicily kicked it - so the assumption is the ump didn't think Sicily was off his free kick line?

But ffs you cant run 90deg to the man on the mark and not be called play on?

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[OnTheRocks]

Can someone please explain why the Tom Greene bump on Sicily at with 1:20min to go was i) paid a free and ii) was paid downfield?

If it was paid downfield then it must be because it was after Sicily kicked it - so the assumption is the ump didn't think Sicily was off his free kick line?

But ffs you cant run 90deg to the man on the mark and not be called play on?

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In the back, after he kicked it. Move on

 

[TGFC]

Eagles robbed by a wrong call, suns robbed by a wrong call. Why do they insist on calling these right at the end of the game

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[Fadge]

We need a thread to record the games where the results are decided by incompetent umpiring.

Surely we're in double figures so far this this.

And yes, happy for the free against Rankine in the Collingwood game to be listed.

 

[lordbob]

Can someone please explain why the Tom Greene bump on Sicily at with 1:20min to go was i) paid a free and ii) was paid downfield?

If it was paid downfield then it must be because it was after Sicily kicked it - so the assumption is the ump didn't think Sicily was off his free kick line?

But ffs you cant run 90deg to the man on the mark and not be called play on?

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Taking a screen from your clip there, see where the ball is when contact is made? You aren't allowed to knock a player to the ground after they have kicked the ball. If you do, then it is a down the field free kick.

 

[kaiserchief13]

We need a thread to record the games where the results are decided by incompetent umpiring.

Surely we're in double figures so far this this.

And yes, happy for the free against Rankine in the Collingwood game to be listed.

From my recollection:

1. Carlton Fremantle
2. Adelaide Essendon
3. Fremantle Collingwood - draw
4. Collingwood Adelaide
5. Hawthorn GWS
6. West Coast North Melbourne
7. St Kilda Gold Coast


What other games?

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

Taking a screen from your clip there, see where the ball is when contact is made? You aren't allowed to knock a player to the ground after they have kicked the ball. If you do, then it is a down the field free kick.
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no way that impact was too late

 

[lordbob]

no way that impact was too late

look at where the ball is when contact is made. does sis have the ball? no, its already in the air. i rest my case.

 

[kaiserchief13]

look at where the ball is when contact is made. does sis have the ball? no, its already in the air. i rest my case.

In a tie game late in 4th quarter you can't pay a ticky tack free kick/downfield, unless of course you want umpires influencing results. Green did hit him but it was a) barely late and b) not much impact

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

look at where the ball is when contact is made. does sis have the ball? no, its already in the air. i rest my case.

No one is resting any cases mate. It wasn’t late by any definition of lateness.

 

[EA100]

My dad has always been red hot on the umpires as of late, but I’ve tried to brush off how bad it’s been, mainly because I’m younger and used to the increased officiating of the game. But as of late it’s really turning me off. It’s a complete embarrassment. We literally are changing the interpretations of rules mid year and giving the umpires no time to adjust and instead having to adjust during games that genuinely matter to the outcome of the season off the rip. The increased amount of rules are increasing the entitlements of umpires which is seeing games being dictated by a decision which we saw tonight.

I agree that the Sicily won is warranted. But with the Yeo decision we literally are punishing a player for winning the ball. He’s literally grabbed it to try and do something with no prior. Both king and Mac Andrew are holding each other, but like most 1 on 1 situation, the forward is rewarded.

But anyway rant over, nothing will change haha unless people stop giving there money, they’ll just keep fronting the media and the public like nothing is wrong and take no accountability.

 

[lordbob]

In a tie game late in 4th quarter you can't pay a ticky tack free kick/downfield, unless of course you want umpires influencing results. Green did hit him but it was a) barely late and b) not much impact

Umps gave gws plenty of shots on goal from frees in the first half. dont see those being brought up.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Umps gave gws plenty of shots on goal from frees in the first half. dont see those being brought up.

I didn't see the game and only saw the downfield free paid to Sicily and the goal kicked from that, but those other free kicks are not the point. The point is umpires should not be making poor decisions in close games late in 4th quarter

 

[lordbob]

I didn't see the game and only saw the downfield free paid to Sicily and the goal kicked from that, but those other free kicks are not the point. The point is umpires should not be making poor decisions in close games late in 4th quarter

The point is, the decision was correct. Everything else doesnt matter.

The only question is, was the bump after sis had already kicked the ball. The answer is yes. There is video evidence. Freeze the replay at the moment of impact and see where the ball is. Was it only slightly late? yes. But slightly late is also late.

I've seen plenty of slightly late bumps on the kicker be paid down field free kicks over the years. This is not different.

Those arguing that it wasn't late or that the umpire should adjudicate free kicks differently depending on how much time is left on the clock as opposed to whether the free kicks are correct or not should maybe think it over again.

I personally just want umpiring to be consistent regardless of interpretation. But, how can you have both consistency in umpiring and for the umpires to pay free kicks differently depending on how much time is left in the game?

 

[kaiserchief13]

The point is, the decision was correct. Everything else doesnt matter.

The only question is, was the bump after sis had already kicked the ball. The answer is yes. There is video evidence. Freeze the replay at the moment of impact and see where the ball is. Was it only slightly late? yes. But slightly late is also late.

I've seen plenty of slightly late bumps on the kicker be paid down field free kicks over the years. This is not different.

Those arguing that it wasn't late or that the umpire should adjudicate free kicks differently depending on how much time is left on the clock as opposed to whether the free kicks are correct or not should maybe think it over again.

I personally just want umpiring to be consistent regardless of interpretation. But, how can you have both consistency in umpiring and for the umpires to pay free kicks differently depending on how much time is left in the game?

Clear free kicks pay them in close games, but iffy ones don't pay. Every year when finals games come around, umpires suddenly put the whistle away in close games in the last 3-4 minutes. Why can't they do that in all games throughout the year?

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Something needs to be done this is ridiculous a overhaul is needed.

FFS coaches livelihood depend on wins and losses can the AFL at least pretend to be serious and professional about it?

If we put training/resources into improving umpiring like we have with concussions the game will be so much better.

 

[Angus Young]

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Can someone please explain why the Tom Greene bump on Sicily at with 1:20min to go was i) paid a free and ii) was paid downfield?

If it was paid downfield then it must be because it was after Sicily kicked it - so the assumption is the ump didn't think Sicily was off his free kick line?

But ffs you cant run 90deg to the man on the mark and not be called play on?

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of course we cant. umpires love a soft nothing free to decide a game.

 

[Fadge]

From my recollection:

1. Carlton Fremantle
2. Adelaide Essendon
3. Fremantle Collingwood - draw
4. Collingwood Adelaide
5. Hawthorn GWS
6. West Coast North Melbourne
7. St Kilda Gold Coast


What other games?

Nice start. Will have a look over the weekend to add to it; I'm sure other posters will come up with a few more...

 

[Fadge]

Something needs to be done this is ridiculous a overhaul is needed.

FFS coaches livelihood depend on wins and losses can the AFL at least pretend to be serious and professional about it?

If we put training/resources into improving umpiring like we have with concussions the game will be so much better.

Need to start with the rules - far too many are open to interpretation and until we get them right, there's no way we can expect consistent application and interpretation of the rules by four different umpires.