Mega Thread Questions about the ASADA/ EFC/ players and the legal process/ defences/ liability

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Lance Uppercut said:
and while you're at it, do you any comment on the submission I posted. You know, that one that claims unambiguously that ASADA led the interviews?

Any comment at all?

Bit ironic that you of all people are ignoring everything EXCEPT (what you claim to be) the word of James Hird. That is a remarkable irony
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Again we would just go back around to what is known and what can be proved. I'm not suggesting that ASADA didn't control the interviews, however even by his own admission. Hird stated the interviews were conducted by the AFL.
 

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I Rock said:
Again we would just go back around to what is known and what can be proved. I'm not suggesting that ASADA didn't control the interviews, however even by his own admission. Hird stated the interviews were conducted by the AFL.
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I thought that's exactly what you (and Malifice) were suggesting?

Why can't I find this statement of Hird's?
 
Lance Uppercut said:
I thought that's exactly what you (and Malifice) were suggesting?

Why can't I find this statement of Hird's?
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It has been posted in one of the threads about Essendon and Hird's Court action and the papers provided to the court. Prior to ASADA retort. Can't remember which one.

No what I am/was suggesting is to prove that the interviews were ASADA conducted is not as simple as you would like. And near impossible to prove that the AFL couldn't/wouldn't have gotten the same information without ASADA being present.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
well if you don't like debate you don't have to be on BigFooty I guess?

Interesting though that you directed that at me and not the other parties to the discussion. I wonder why
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The point you argue is important Lance but you are having no success in convincing anyone else of the merits of your position. You are arguing with multiple people on the only two threads on the HTB that shouldn't be about pissing contests. Move on.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
well if you don't like debate you don't have to be on BigFooty I guess?

Interesting though that you directed that at me and not the other parties to the discussion. I wonder why
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Because you're the only one of us that is wrong.:)

PS I like the debate.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
ah no, I can't find it. I've just shown you yet another example of proof that ASADA drove the interview. Either piss or get off the pot and admit you're talking out your arse. Because if you can't supply this then you are.
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I don't think it would be a good idea to simultaneously piss and talk through your arse.
 

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Lance Uppercut said:
Yes, good question, shall we revist?



No but let's ask someone who is



Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 4s
Andruska disagrees that ASADA embraced the AFLs proposals. "On what basis do you disagree?" She says ASADA not AFL led investigation

thoughts?
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I may be blind but since when has interviews been spelt I.N.V.E.S.T.I.G.A.T.I.O.N.S
 
blackshadow said:
The real thing they hate is that he expected Albert to be honourable and take proper responsibility for his actions.

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No, we actually believed he'd act in the interests of the club he was chairman of and not his business interests.

What's the tougher option? Wiping your hands and absolving yourself of the situation, or being slandered by every facet of the media and the public for 18+ months in order to reach the truth?

You don't find it odd that your claiming the easy way is 'taking responsibilty'?
 
byronstjames said:
No, we actually believed he'd act in the interests of the club he was chairman of and not his business interests.

What's the tougher option? Wiping your hands and absolving yourself of the situation, or being slandered by every facet of the media and the public for 18+ months in order to reach the truth?

You don't find it odd that your claiming the easy way is 'taking responsibilty'?
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If you don't believe Evans acted in what he thought were the best interests of your club you're clearly delusional.

Evans actions were all about trying to get the best possible deal for Essendon players and to hell with everything else. Albert hated that because his actions and inactions came under severe scrutiny.


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blackshadow said:
If you don't believe Evans acted in what he thought were the best interests of your club you're clearly delusional.

Evans actions were all about trying to get the best possible deal for Essendon players and to hell with everything else. Albert hated that because his actions and inactions came under severe scrutiny.


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You mean that deal that was not within ASADA's power to offer? Cool.
 
byronstjames said:
You mean that deal that was not within ASADA's power to offer? Cool.
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You mean the deal that ASADA never agreed to?

Evans tried to do his best for the players - because he can't change the rules doesn't mean he didn't try to get them the best deal possible.

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blackshadow said:
You mean the deal that ASADA never agreed to?

Evans tried to do his best for the players - because he can't change the rules doesn't mean he didn't try to get them the best deal possible.

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That's the one.

If Evans was worried about the players, he would have listened to...I don't know, the club doctor, the coach or the support staff? Who assured him they had nothing to worry about.

Instead he chose to believe McLachlan and Vlad. Why?
 
byronstjames said:
That's the one.

If Evans was worried about the players, he would have listened to...I don't know, the club doctor, the coach or the support staff? Who assured him they had nothing to worry about.

Instead he chose to believe McLachlan and Vlad. Why?
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The architect of the drug program, the sidelined doctor and the mad scientist whose area of expertise was doping athletes?

:drunk:

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byronstjames said:
That's the one.

If Evans was worried about the players, he would have listened to...I don't know, the club doctor, the coach or the support staff? Who assured him they had nothing to worry about.

Instead he chose to believe McLachlan and Vlad. Why?
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how do you know whether or whom he spoke to? Maybe he saw the players injection records before they were misplaced, saw invoices, other stuff that caused concern. maybe the rumblings and calls from the media alerted him something was going on. Who really knows
 
byronstjames said:
That's the one.

If Evans was worried about the players, he would have listened to...I don't know, the club doctor, the coach or the support staff? Who assured him they had nothing to worry about.

Instead he chose to believe McLachlan and Vlad. Why?
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He knew what was going on seems like the main reason.
 

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