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Geez mate.. obviously dont watch many Port Games. He switches from CHF to FF. He plays deeper in goals like Lynch.
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Geez mate.. obviously dont watch many Port Games. He switches from CHF to FF. He plays deeper in goals like Lynch.
Geez, great quality midfield service on a siver platter.
Stats from about August.
Lynch was not targeted nearly as much as the other key forwards, and hence had less opportunities to score, and also beat most of them in goal assists.
The first set of stats show the amount of times that the ball was kicked to a forward inside 50 (I assume, they were Gunnars stats and I don't know how accurate they were. From this thread).
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Sorry I am still not following...
How many times the eagles kicked it inside 50 for the season? How does he know how many times it went to lynch? What does Lynch have to do with it? Is it how many times Lynch marked it or was on the end of it?
It's how many times the ball was kicked to Lynch.
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Does that make it clearer?
I thought it was clear-cut initially but, well, it is late and maybe it takes Sabre a while to understand these simple things?
I doubt it
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Sabre either has trouble comprehending other posters opinions and the flow of debate
Or is Trolling
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Sorry guys...I forgot you lurk around here waiting for my posts...I had to do a bit of study..But I am back now...
Quite a bitchy lot you are arnt you.
Anyway...
The reason I have problem with those stats is.
1. How are they verified?
2. Are we talking kicking to Lynch on the lead, just his general area or both?
3. A quality defender negating him would influence those stats.
Are you trying to say of all the times the eagles went into the inside 50.....They only looked for Lynch 146 times? What does that say about the faith they have in the guy?
How exactly is this a positive for him? I mean say for example they are correct...And say its to him on the lead....What does it say? That he is an accurate kick? Well Ill give you that, I would have given you that from the begining.
Neither do those stats oppose my theory he is a fair weathered player, nor does it counter some other posters claims that he kicks goals when the game is already won.
I am going to bed now...And probably wont post untill later tommorrow....Just thought I should warn some of you eagle supporters in case you spend all day waiting for my reply....
Quite a bitchy lot you are arnt you.
Anyway...
The reason I have problem with those stats is.
1. How are they verified?
2. Are we talking kicking to Lynch on the lead, just his general area or both?
3. A quality defender negating him would influence those stats.
Are you trying to say of all the times the eagles went into the inside 50.....They only looked for Lynch 146 times? What does that say about the faith they have in the guy?
How exactly is this a positive for him? I mean say for example they are correct...And say its to him on the lead....What does it say? That he is an accurate kick? Well Ill give you that, I would have given you that from the begining.
Neither do those stats oppose my theory he is a fair weathered player, nor does it counter some other posters claims that he kicks goals when the game is already won.
I am going to bed now...And probably wont post untill later tommorrow....Just thought I should warn some of you eagle supporters in case you spend all day waiting for my reply....
It actually says a lot for his ability because even though St. Kila kicked to Riewoldt over 100 more times inside 50 than WCE did to Lynch, Lynch actually kicked 5 more goals than Riewoldt. You'd think with the supply Riewoldt got he could've been a chance to have taken out the Coleman as only Fevola was targeted more, yet he kicked 5 goals less than someone who was targeted 102 more times less than him.
Imagine what Lynchy could've kicked had he had the ball in his direction that many times?
Assuming these stats are right of course...
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Geez, great quality midfield service on a siver platter.
IN50 Targets Rnd 1-22
Fevola 279
Riewoldt 248
Thompson 240
Hall 225
Bradshaw 214
Rocca 212
Lucas 201
Gehrig 199
Neitz 189
Williams 185
Richardson 181
Pavlich 173
Johnson 168
Robertson 162
Tarrant 158
Ottens 148
Lynch 146
O'Loughlin 128
Ricciuto 117
Stats from about August.
Lynch was not targeted nearly as much as the other key forwards, and hence had less opportunities to score, and also beat most of them in goal assists.
Yeah and about 200 of Fevola's deliveries were completely rubbish whereas I can guarantee you that all 146 of Lynch's were to his chest and within scoring distance. It's just simple, you eagles fans pump Lynch up to be some super-star full forward, he is a handy player playing in an excellent team and nothing else. You stick Fev, Lloyd, Neitz etc into that side and they will kick you 100 goals. End of argument.
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End of argument? What a load of crap. Lynch kicked 3 goals in a winning GF in his second year at FF, something Fev, Lloyd & Neitz never did. He kicked them when the game was in the balance, against the 'hero' of last years GF Leo Barry. Lynch can play CHF, CHB and in the ruck, making him a far more versatile player then the other 3. He is a lot more than 'handy', every team in the league would die for a versatile KPP like Lynch. True he isn't a 'super-star full forward'. Yet.
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I think it says he is being double teamed and if theres someone in a one on one situation you should just kick it to them or run into the forward 50 instead. Unlike Fremantle Eagles dont rely on one man to kick all of there goals.
When the game is already won?. The game isnt won til the final siren blows. I think Geelong learnt that the hard way
. Were not bitchy. We just dont like Freo mod trolls that present a bunch of useless facts and fails to back them up with actual usual evidence.
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You would expect Neitz and Fev to mark over 80% of forward deliveries. Our midfield is good but silver service delivery into the forward 50 is something there not well known for.
3 goals from your full forwar din the biggest game of the year is a poor return.
And sabre's analysis of those stats is spot on... I want to know what % of Lynch's goals came from contested marks inside 50? Not too many I would have thought....
He is not a quality full forward, end of argument.
And suggesting he has played Ruck, CHF and CHB.....well, woop de doo....you can add them to full forward as position's he is no good at....
He is the first person since Matera to kick 60 in a year I think I remember posting....Great - just great...
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Lynch was the highest goalkicker on the day and the highest goalkicker for the finals series.
I don't care....3 goals from a full forward is not a good result....end of story
Oh wow, he kicked 3 goals on someone who is 16 kgs lighter then him and 10 cms shorter then him. Also, Leo did his hammy in the 3rd and said after the match there were times where he couldn't even run.
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Still a better result than Hall on the day. So, does that make Hall a dud ? I doubt it !
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Sabre might be a 1st class troll, but he has a point.
Lynch is a fairweather player.
Lynch is a fairweather player.
If he had torn his hamstring he would not have been on the field, you literally can't move once you've done it, he may have twinged it but not done his hammy...otherwise it was more a case of a torn heartstring
NO, it doesn't....The weagle fans were using Lynch's 3 GF goals as "proof" that he is good....
Barry had a bad day, Lynch had a bad day....but Barry's was unexpected....or abnormal, Lynch's was not....
I tore my hammy and saw out a quarter last season....it depends on the grade of tear...Leo's may have only been minor - but it's still a tear, and he could still have playe don.......and adrenelin has a huge "masking" effect....
