Racist fan has membership terminated

[imperial_oz]

No, I think it is a disingenuous PR exercise

I tend to agree with this. If EFC want to take the high moral ground they should return the money for this membership (on a pro-rata) basis and say they won't be associated with this behaviour. Cancelling the membership doesn't cost the club anything, so I'm a little sceptical of the whole thing.

In my view, if you make a stand and it costs the other guy then its pretty feeble.

As far as the original offender goes, no real sympathy. This isn't the 1800's any more. If he can't keep his racist opinions to himself then he deserves all he gets. Society in general has made it very clear for a long time now that sort of behaviour is both unacceptable and unlawful, not to mention displaying above average stupidity

 

[Chief]

you are going to get idiots everywhere.

Indeed.

 

[Bennett.]

I don't know about you, but I just love sitting back and watching people dig themselves deeper with every post they make.

To be honest, I don't give a shit where you think I'm digging myself.
Maybe we could just treat every insult with the same disdain rather than picking and choosing which ones are a no no

 

[PACatter]

I tend to agree with this. If EFC want to take the high moral ground they should return the money for this membership (on a pro-rata) basis and say they won't be associated with this behaviour. Cancelling the membership doesn't cost the club anything, so I'm a little sceptical of the whole thing.

In my view, if you make a stand and it costs the other guy then its pretty feeble.

As far as the original offender goes, no real sympathy. This isn't the 1800's any more. If he can't keep his racist opinions to himself then he deserves all he gets. Society in general has made it very clear for a long time now that sort of behaviour is both unacceptable and unlawful, not to mention displaying above average stupidity

They can't, Hirdy already spent it in France.

 

[Bennett.]

Congrats! You just qualified for the most ignorant post of the year!

Thanks. And from what basis are you making that claim?

 

[Chief]

you think so?
If we are all so enlightened, insults shouldn't be used at all

False dichotomy.

 

[Engimal]

To be honest, I don't give a shit where you think I'm digging myself.
Maybe we could just treat every insult with the same disdain rather than picking and choosing which ones are a no no

So calling Goodes a w@nker* and calling him 'the n word' are the same?

*sorry mods

 

[the_interloper]

Anyone know what he said? And before you say "it doesn't matter, we don't need to know blah blah" I think it's good for this to be discussed, because it lets people know what is specifically unacceptable. Like the last Goodes incident, some people didn't know "ape" was a racial slur and it helped educate people.

 

[Bennett.]

False dichotomy.

how so? Why are some insults ok and others not?
Insults are, by their definition, designed to put someone else down.

 

[Chief]

They can't, Hirdy already spent it in France.

Maybe they can get Fletcher to give the ex-member the basket of French cheeses Hirdy gave him for his birthday?

After removing the secret messages containing coaching instructions for Bomber.

 

[Mcveigh]

He has about 10 nominations, all from this particular thread.

Beat me to it.

 

[The Cryptkeeper]

Anyone know what he said? And before you say "it doesn't matter, we don't need to know blah blah" I think it's good for this to be discussed, because it lets people know what is specifically unacceptable. Like the last Goodes incident, some people didn't know "ape" was a racial slur and it helped educate people.

People that didn't know that "ape" was a racial slur are quite literally too stupid to be allowed out in public without shackles, or some type of harness.

 

[Bennett.]

So calling Goodes a w@nker* and calling him 'the n word' are the same?

*sorry mods

Why not? an insult is designed to put someone else down. If we're going to be serious about stamping things out, let's go all the way

 

[Quivorir]

What about it gets you upset?

I don't like the guy as it is. So pretty much anything he says no matter what it is I have a biased opinion about it. Unrational I know.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Anyone know what he said? And before you say "it doesn't matter, we don't need to know blah blah" I think it's good for this to be discussed, because it lets people know what is specifically unacceptable. Like the last Goodes incident, some people didn't know "ape" was a racial slur and it helped educate people.

Can't remember if it was here or on twitter but I did read about some idiot on Level 2 (Essendon High Mark Members) was repeatedly yelling racial abuse towards Goodes for a while before, I'm guessing, someone finally reported them and got them chucked out. I'm assuming it was this guy.

 

[Chief]

Thanks. And from what basis are you making that claim?

The general air of "victimised white heterosexual male" that exudes from your posts, perhaps?

 

[JP2]

Goodes, once again, gets away with murder

What the hell? What the hell did Goodes do to deserve any of this? You're seriously equating an Indigenous man trying to play football with an act of murder?

And to those saying that this is an over-reaction or a "PR stunt", I think this thread proves just how necessary it is to take strong steps against racism in football, because some people clearly still don't get it. I wouldn't otherwise want to tarnish all Essendon supporters with the same brush, but it's difficult when so many of you were booing Goodes for no discernible reason on Friday night and that so many of you are willing to speak up in defence of a racist (OP obviously excepted - thank you for your unequivocal denunciation of what took place). Goodes has a right to play football without the threat of racial abuse, and if it means tearing up half the memberships in the league to make it possible then that's what has to be done. Can't seriously believe that this is still an open question in the year of our lord 2014.

 

[UpForGrabs]

To be honest, I don't give a shit where you think I'm digging myself.
Maybe we could just treat every insult with the same disdain rather than picking and choosing which ones are a no no

Because if someone calls you a prick, maybe it's because you're acting like a prick and you can think about what you've done to illicit such response and change your behaviour.

If someone calls you a black prick then they're vilifying you for something that's beyond your control, and they're highlighting skin colour as if it's a negative and worthy of derision.

 

[Engimal]

Why not? an insult is designed to put someone else down. If we're going to be serious about stamping things out, let's go all the way

We're going to have agree to disagree then I guess.

 

[melbournehammer]

If you (not you) can't keep your head and act like an adult, then you (not you) shouldn't be in public places like a football game until you (not you) can.

There was probably some Indigenous people in the crowd at the game. Should they have to put up with hearing it? Should kids be hearing that and maybe get the idea that saying those kinds of things is okay? Absolutely not.

The bizarre thing is that no club has probably made more strides in this area than Essendon. Why wouldnt you realise that you are putting a knife into long, kickett, davey, dempsey, wanganeen, ryder, rioli ??

 

[Baldur]

yeah, sorry this is going to make me unpopular with people, but a guy says something in the heat of the moment and
loses his membership? That's going too far. The guy was a dickhead, but seriously?

A club is just that a club. While I would disagree with any legal sanctions. Why should the members of Essendon have to associate with somebody they find offensive? Or for that matter be associated by others with somebody who they find offensive.

 

[CotchNCo]

Another example of the discrimination against straight white men. Where are our rights?!

 

[Bennett.]

The general air of "victimised white heterosexual male" that exudes from your posts, perhaps?

What? white people can't be victims of racism?

 

[Jade]

yeah, sorry this is going to make me unpopular with people, but a guy says something in the heat of the moment and
loses his membership? That's going too far. The guy was a dickhead, but seriously?

Nah punishment is completely appropriate - that shit needs to be stamped right out.

 

[DrKrieger]

so many of you are willing to speak up in defence of a racist (OP obviously excepted - thank you for your unequivocal denunciation of what took place).

I count only one essendon supporter...