Rank Immaturity showing in NRL

[Joffaboy]

I lived in Sydney for 28 years and loyally supported the Bulldogs.

Moved to Melbourne and drifted from League to AFL. However since the Storm has been about - I have become reacquianted with NRL.

I still support the Dogs but have a huge soft spot for the Storm.

I simply cant believe the anti Melbourne immaturity shown - not just by Sydney fans - but by the Sydneycentric media and the today bu the incredibly bias and pitifully unprofessional commentary on ch9 and by Hadley on SEN.

In 2006 the Storm were ripped off by blatant referring decisions.

In 2007 the Storm won.

Last year - supported by the NRL - officials of the NRL were allowed to wreck the Storms preparation with court proceedings gleefully whipped along by the Sydney media.

This year it has been the same. Attempting to whip up the provincial and insecure "fear" of Melbourne and the lame play on the inter city rivalry. All these St.George and Manly fans cheering for Parramatta all week - FFS - why would you support those twats

Melbourne went through all this in the 90's - over a decade ago. This century this small minded provincialism has vanished - mainly because we have had three totally interstate Grand Finals (Port v Bris and two WCE v Sydney GF's). Really the vast majority of AFL fans couldn't care less who won after their team is out. Doesn't matter if the team is from SA or QLD or WA or NSW.

This is because the AFL has a national mentality that has matured from insular porochialism and petty interstate rivalry to a truly national mentality.

It seems to me that NRL is still very small minded - insecure - and very very provincial. It has not learnt the lessons that AFL supporters and media has. The culture of the sport has not matured and while it continues to think that others outside of Sydney are undeserving of being in a GF - the code will continue to struggle to be meaningful.

The commentary today on chl 9 was laughable. The subjective bias was unbelievable and really unprofessional. Phil Gould should just go out on the terraces if he wants to barrack for one team - really it detracts from the whole broadcast. I got sick of this babble and tuned into SEN. I didn't think the commentary and hysterical bias could get any worse but i didn't count on Hadley.

Sydney - the media - and the code - needs to grow up. The behaviour and performance over the past two GF weeks has been embarrassing and cringeworthy.

If NRL wants to remain relevant it needs to start acting like a peofessional sport - not some hack code played by and watched by Sydneysider boofheads who are insecure about their place in the world.

 

[dr nick]

Hadley has never stated who he goes for. but I do know his son, Daniel, goes for Parramatta.

 

[Paul Kersey]

Spot on. Unfortunately, I don't see it changing. Gould should be changed with a Queenslander though.

 

[Joffaboy]

Hadley has never stated who he goes for. but I do know his son, Daniel, goes for Parramatta.

Maybe so. I know Hudson in Melbourne is a Geelong supporter but you wouldn't have known it from the replay of the GF i have stomached to watch.

I dont think it matters who these Sysney commentators support. They all had a common "enemy" - the team from Melbourne.

Extremely unprofessional - but it is more the hatred toward the melbourne team that is really cringeworthy.

The league is called the National RL - but seems the stakeholders just want it to be the NSWRL once again.

time to grow up or remain irrelevant to most of the country.

 

[peternorth]

The commentary today on chl 9 was laughable. The subjective bias was unbelievable and really unprofessional. Phil Gould should just go out on the terraces if he wants to barrack for one team - really it detracts from the whole broadcast. I got sick of this babble and tuned into SEN. I didn't think the commentary and hysterical bias could get any worse but i didn't count on Hadley.

Sydney - the media - and the code - needs to grow up. The behaviour and performance over the past two GF weeks has been embarrassing and cringeworthy.

If NRL wants to remain relevant it needs to start acting like a peofessional sport - not some hack code played by and watched by Sydneysider boofheads who are insecure about their place in the world.

i was in sydney today (not for the GF but). was told by a few people that they hoped parra would win cause its a nsw competition. ffs, some sydneysiders are so fkin insecure.

the ch 9 commentary was laughable. first half they kept going on about the "parochialism" and how the stadium would erupt if parra score a try.

happy to leave the place as a premier

 

[dr nick]

tbh i can't really comment as i havent watched or listened to the past 3 GF calls involving the storm.

I do remember in 1999 almost everyone I knew (including me) were desperately hoping the dragons would lose. There was probably 50/50 support that day at the ground.

When they were playing brisbane, there was a lot of apathy towards the game in sydney (understandably, not a huge rivalry of history from either club exists down here).

The two times they were playing manly, there are always heaps of people who hope manly lose. I support manly, was at the game and so can't comment on the commentary.

Today, you have this situation where most of the callers (Hadley, Sterling, Voss, probably Rabs etc...) actually do support Parramatta. Also Johns was in the parra dressing room at half time. Yes, they should be impartial when they call it, but I think you;d notice a bias moreso if Parra was playing from the callers of rugby league than any other team.

 

[damochandler]

hadley has always hated melbourne and belamy. he hates any team that he has murdoch and co involved it it

 

[dr nick]

but you wouldn't have known it from the replay of the GF i have stomached to watch.

wow - you watched a replay? You are a glutton for punishment

 

[Joffaboy]

wow - you watched a replay? You are a glutton for punishment

about 10 minutes of the second quarter

 

[Bomber Bears]

Rabs is a Parra supporter, pretty sure Voss is/was a Souths fan
And Sterlo is probably in the top few players of all time from Parra (along with Kenny and Price). Sterlo was never particularly biased i thought, altho he gave a bit away when the penalty was given against Moi Moi

 

[robaba]

The fact that the commentators hate us makes victory all the more enjoyable.
I agree that the last penalty against MoiMoi hanging on to Billy was a bit harsh, but it was in the rule book. So go get get f.cked Mr Gould.

 

[wian]

I lived in Sydney for 28 years and loyally supported the Bulldogs.

Moved to Melbourne and drifted from League to AFL. However since the Storm has been about - I have become reacquianted with NRL.

I still support the Dogs but have a huge soft spot for the Storm.

I simply cant believe the anti Melbourne immaturity shown - not just by Sydney fans - but by the Sydneycentric media and the today bu the incredibly bias and pitifully unprofessional commentary on ch9 and by Hadley on SEN.

In 2006 the Storm were ripped off by blatant referring decisions.

In 2007 the Storm won.

Last year - supported by the NRL - officials of the NRL were allowed to wreck the Storms preparation with court proceedings gleefully whipped along by the Sydney media.

This year it has been the same. Attempting to whip up the provincial and insecure "fear" of Melbourne and the lame play on the inter city rivalry. All these St.George and Manly fans cheering for Parramatta all week - FFS - why would you support those twats

Melbourne went through all this in the 90's - over a decade ago. This century this small minded provincialism has vanished - mainly because we have had three totally interstate Grand Finals (Port v Bris and two WCE v Sydney GF's). Really the vast majority of AFL fans couldn't care less who won after their team is out. Doesn't matter if the team is from SA or QLD or WA or NSW.

This is because the AFL has a national mentality that has matured from insular porochialism and petty interstate rivalry to a truly national mentality.

It seems to me that NRL is still very small minded - insecure - and very very provincial. It has not learnt the lessons that AFL supporters and media has. The culture of the sport has not matured and while it continues to think that others outside of Sydney are undeserving of being in a GF - the code will continue to struggle to be meaningful.

The commentary today on chl 9 was laughable. The subjective bias was unbelievable and really unprofessional. Phil Gould should just go out on the terraces if he wants to barrack for one team - really it detracts from the whole broadcast. I got sick of this babble and tuned into SEN. I didn't think the commentary and hysterical bias could get any worse but i didn't count on Hadley.

Sydney - the media - and the code - needs to grow up. The behaviour and performance over the past two GF weeks has been embarrassing and cringeworthy.

If NRL wants to remain relevant it needs to start acting like a peofessional sport - not some hack code played by and watched by Sydneysider boofheads who are insecure about their place in the world.

I am not going to say much, but the bottom line is, NSW Rugby are just a pack of C*NTS !

Totally agree with you !

The way the Storm were treated with the whole Cameron Smith thing last year was disgraceful , and this year, their best player Hayne CONVENIENTY got let of by the Judicary for Slamming his knees into an opponents head ! the Storm are constantly up against it, on and off the field !

and the Biased Umpiring against the Broncos a few years before that was just a F*N Joke

I am just loving the 2009i Victory for all the above reasons !! Go Storm !

 

[2121]

same thing happens with afl in victoria, biased commentators biased media etc.

 

[Bomber Bears]

How about look at it from an NSW perspective.

The premier competition of rugby league was the NSWRL. This is where players from far and wide went to prove themselves. The NSWRL and then ARL has slowly but surely expanded their borders again and again, seeing a superpower like the broncos form along with other expansion clubs. Currently the Melbourne side is funded to the tune of 6 million dollars by News Ltd each year, which is from the 8 million or so News takes from the game, which is put into the game by the general public.
In all this time great traditional clubs have been merged or folded, whilst there has been constant bitching from outside NSW about oh I don't know all kinds of shite from NSW club, be it crowds or whatever.

So maybe its the lack of respect for the clubs that did all the ground work for this somewhat national competition from the clubs outside NSW, that leads to situations in which most people are getting behind the sydney club versing a club like Melbourne.

 

[scotty88]

tbh i can't really comment as i havent watched or listened to the past 3 GF calls involving the storm.

I do remember in 1999 almost everyone I knew (including me) were desperately hoping the dragons would lose. There was probably 50/50 support that day at the ground.

When they were playing brisbane, there was a lot of apathy towards the game in sydney (understandably, not a huge rivalry of history from either club exists down here).

The two times they were playing manly, there are always heaps of people who hope manly lose. I support manly, was at the game and so can't comment on the commentary.

Today, you have this situation where most of the callers (Hadley, Sterling, Voss, probably Rabs etc...) actually do support Parramatta. Also Johns was in the parra dressing room at half time. Yes, they should be impartial when they call it, but I think you;d notice a bias moreso if Parra was playing from the callers of rugby league than any other team.

You obviously missed the whole first half of the season where all those commentators were bagging out parramatta for not caring and I think phil gould even criticized them for having a "pub footy team" mentality.

 

[Paul Kersey]

This is how it's seen through the eyes of NSW -

NSW versus the rest of the country (particularly Vic and Qld).

I suppose just like Vic and our 'ol friends SA during VFL/SANFL state of origin, we wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[Bomber Bears]

This is how it's seen through the eyes of NSW -

NSW versus the rest of the country (particularly Vic and Qld).

I suppose just like Vic and our 'ol friends SA during VFL/SANFL state of origin, we wouldn't have it any other way.

Meh
I've always considered NSW comfortably the best state, dont really care about Qld or Vic to be honest.

Always found Victorians to be pretty insecure actually, I mean look at some of the posts on the cricket board, some of the shit on the main page regarding league (im well aware there is similar stuff re AFL on LU, but that is mainly queenslanders, and they are mad as cut snakes).

 

[DeanoT]

same thing happens with afl in victoria, biased commentators biased media etc.

Thankfully the SA media is much more objective, right ?

Last time I checked the main AFL broadcasters included McAvaney, Cometti, Russell, etc, who are all not Victorian.

 

[crownie]

Meh
I've always considered NSW comfortably the best state, dont really care about Qld or Vic to be honest.

Always found Victorians to be pretty insecure actually, I mean look at some of the posts on the cricket board, some of the shit on the main page regarding league (im well aware there is similar stuff re AFL on LU, but that is mainly queenslanders, and they are mad as cut snakes).

personally i knew no nuetral supporter who wanted Collingwood to beat Brisbane in those grand finals.

 

[Bomber Bears]

Last year there was definately alot of anti manly sentiment.

In fact the last 3 seasons have been crap, Brisbane Melbourne and then Melbourne Manlyx2

 

[DeanoT]

Last year there was definately alot of anti manly sentiment.

In fact the last 3 seasons have been crap, Brisbane Melbourne and then Melbourne Manlyx2

What was that you were saying about insecurity ?

 

[Ping Pong]

tbh i can't really comment as i havent watched or listened to the past 3 GF calls involving the storm.

I do remember in 1999 almost everyone I knew (including me) were desperately hoping the dragons would lose. There was probably 50/50 support that day at the ground.

When they were playing brisbane, there was a lot of apathy towards the game in sydney (understandably, not a huge rivalry of history from either club exists down here).

The two times they were playing manly, there are always heaps of people who hope manly lose. I support manly, was at the game and so can't comment on the commentary.

Today, you have this situation where most of the callers (Hadley, Sterling, Voss, probably Rabs etc...) actually do support Parramatta. Also Johns was in the parra dressing room at half time. Yes, they should be impartial when they call it, but I think you;d notice a bias moreso if Parra was playing from the callers of rugby league than any other team.

In a normal game, you generally don't notice any bias from the commentators (actually i take that back i forgot about Gould). Generally Sterlo is as impartial and fair as they come and is definately alot better than the days when we had fatty commentating shouting out 'go manly' during the middle of games. But a Grand Final is something different, it brings out all different emotions in fans and supporters, which is probably why the commentators were quite one-sided. Besides, Sterlo is a Parra Legend, Ray Hadley is a very passionate Eels supporter. Rabs has lived in the Hills District (Parra Terriorty) all his life and is a life long supporter, while Andrew Johns is Parramatta Halfs coach (just like Matty johns was for the storm). And for the icing on the cake good old Kenny Suttcliffe is also an eels fan. On the commentary team today it was really only Gould and Voss (Tigers fan) who don't support Parra. And for those people who are saying that Gould was biased towards parra today, i can tell you it was nothing like last week during the eels vs Bulldogs match were he was supporting the Bulldogs all night.

 

[dr nick]

Meh
I've always considered NSW comfortably the best state, dont really care about Qld or Vic to be honest.

Always found Victorians to be pretty insecure actually, I mean look at some of the posts on the cricket board, some of the shit on the main page regarding league (im well aware there is similar stuff re AFL on LU, but that is mainly queenslanders, and they are mad as cut snakes).

agree. NSW's rival has always been QLD. I always find victorians try to manufacture this whole nsw vs victoria thing, when in actual fact it's the queenslanders we can't stand.

 

[DonsRule]

In a normal game, you generally don't notice any bias from the commentators (actually i take that back i forgot about Gould). Generally Sterlo is as impartial and fair as they come and is definately alot better than the days when we had fatty commentating shouting out 'go manly' during the middle of games. But a Grand Final is something different, it brings out all different emotions in fans and supporters, which is probably why the commentators were quite one-sided. Besides, Sterlo is a Parra Legend, Ray Hadley is a very passionate Eels supporter. Rabs has lived in the Hills District (Parra Terriorty) all his life and is a life long supporter, while Andrew Johns is Parramatta Halfs coach (just like Matty johns was for the storm). And for the icing on the cake good old Kenny Suttcliffe is also an eels fan. On the commentary team today it was really only Gould and Voss (Tigers fan) who don't support Parra. And for those people who are saying that Gould was biased towards parra today, i can tell you it was nothing like last week during the eels vs Bulldogs match were he was supporting the Bulldogs all night.

I think't think Sterlo was that bad today, considering he was a former Ells player. I think theres always going to be some bias come with someone like him. But if I have the commentators right, there was the hit on Ingliss with the chip kick, and got a cheap forarm to the head as he tried to run ast the eels player. Gould called it 'a fair hit', 'you can't let him chips kick all day' 'Grand Final Fare', I believe Sterlo interjected with, 'yeah, but you can't do that'

I don't think there was a lot in it, but, at least from what I understand of Rugby, a penalty.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

Unfortunately with Matty Johns getting turfed from the media the Storm lost its only true friend and ally in the Sydney/TV league media.