Ranking most successful vfl/afl teams....

[Bloodz]

Any system that puts Port Power with 1 flag and 2 chokes ahead of Essenon wth 16 premierships is flawed... end of story... hopefully end of thread

 

[The Shev]

Just for common interest, here is a rankings list. Premierships won, divided by the numbers of years played, multiplied by 100.

15.79 - Brisbane Bears/Lions
14.95 - Essendon
14.68 - Carlton
13.33 - Adelaide
12.84 - Collingwood
11.32 - Melbourne
11.11 - Hawthorn
11.11 - Port Adelaide
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10.53 - West Coast
10.20 - Richmond
5.61 - Geelong
4.94 - North Melbourne
3.70 - South Melbourne/Sydney
1.23 - Footscray
0.93 - St. Kilda
0.00 - Fremantle

 

[Bloodz]

Just for common interest, here is a rankings list. Premierships won, divided by the numbers of years played, multiplied by 100.

15.79 - Brisbane Bears/Lions
14.95 - Essendon
14.68 - Carlton
13.33 - Adelaide
12.84 - Collingwood
11.32 - Melbourne
11.11 - Hawthorn
11.11 - Port Adelaide
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10.53 - West Coast
10.20 - Richmond
5.61 - Geelong
4.94 - North Melbourne
3.70 - South Melbourne/Sydney
1.23 - Footscray
0.93 - St. Kilda
0.00 - Fremantle

How can Ess and Carl have a different score? both established in 1897, both won 16 premierships, played the same years and won the same amount of premierships??? back to the calculator

 

[Helix]

Brisbane still have'nt boiled that egg even after your alterations

And anyone that remembers Fitzroy for the last 50 years of their life will have to be careful not to crack a rib from laughter at seeing them on top

And even though we haven't 'boiled an egg', we have still won more premierships that the Swans. No wonder you are bitter.

 

[doppleganger]

How can Ess and Carl have a different score? both established in 1897, both won 16 premierships, played the same years and won the same amount of premierships??? back to the calculator

essendon missed a couple of years in 1916-7 due to the war!!

 

[Bloodz]

essendon missed a couple of years in 1916-7 due to the war!!

I stand corrected

 

[Bloodz]

And even though we haven't 'boiled an egg', we have still won more premierships that the Swans. No wonder you are bitter.

I'm sure I would be bitter if I had been sober since we won the flag

 

[Bloodz]

Here's the only one that matters

Teams that have headed the premiership table

Collingwood 55 years
Fitzroy 31 years
Carlton 25 years
Essendon 19 years

 

[The Shev]

How can Ess and Carl have a different score? both established in 1897, both won 16 premierships, played the same years and won the same amount of premierships??? back to the calculator

Back to the history books.

 

[Bloodz]

There were only 4 teams one year during the 2nd world war, Fitzroy ended up on the bottom of the ladder and won the premiership from 4th

Just how many of their flags have an asterix???

 

[Helix]

There were only 4 teams one year during the 2nd world war, Fitzroy ended up on the bottom of the ladder and won the premiership from 4th

Just how many asterixes are next to their flags???

I could find an asterix next to most flags, it just really isn't important. Just enjoy it when you win.

 

[doppleganger]

Here's the only one that matters

Teams that have headed the premiership table

Collingwood 55 years
Fitzroy 31 years
Carlton 25 years
Essendon 19 years

reckon that this table is much preferable as it is years that the club has individually held the premiership record

collingwood 51
fitzroy 25
carlton 14
essendon 1

 

[OB1]

Carlton and Essendon are newcomers in comparison... and Brisbane aren't even out of nappies yet

We won the first bloody flag for christ sake. I'd hardly call that newcomers. Perhaps you little swannies should learn a bit more about this game thats been around over 100 years before making a public fool of yourself with statements like that. Yes Collinwood did lead the table for a long time but both Carlton & Essendon have enjoyed pretty consistant success since the VFL began.

 

[Bloodz]

We won the first bloody flag for christ sake. I'd hardly call that newcomers. Perhaps you little swannies should learn a bit more about this game thats been around over 100 years before making a public fool of yourself with statements like that. Yes Collinwood did lead the table for a long time but both Carlton & Essendon have enjoyed pretty consistant success since the VFL began.

You didn't dominate the premiership table for over half a century, but yes you have been consistent

 

[Blues_Man]

You didn't dominate the premiership table for over half a century, but yes you have been consistent

I know you are a little slow ..but dominating a premiership table ..actually entails WINNING said premierships ..getting close for part of the year doesn't count...the Pies would be leading the table comfortably if they didn't choke in almost every GF they played in. If they were so dominant how come they are behind Carlton in Head to head games ?????

 

[demondavey]

STATS --

team....finals-flags-rups-minors-spoons-seasons-w/l

carlton....64-16-13-17-2-109-59.9
collingwood....74-14-25-17-2-109-60.4
essendon....61-16-14-15-3-109-57.9
richmond....34-10-11-8-5-98-51.2
melbourne....36-12-5-9-9-106-46.9
hawthorn....25-9-5-7-11-81-46.1
fitzroy....29-8-5-4-9-100-45.1
geelong....47-6-7-11-5-106-51.7
north melbourne....25-4-5-4-13-81-43.6
south melb/sydney....31-4-9-7-11-108-45.7
west coast....14-2-2-2-0-19-56.7
adelaide....6-2-0-1-0-15-51.1
port adelaide....5-1-0-3-0-9-58.5
fremantle ....1-0-0-0-1-11-37.9
brisbane bears....2-0-0-0-2-10-32.4
brisbane lions....7-3-1-0-1-9-60.4
st kilda....20-1-4-2-27-107-37.3
footscray....20-1-1-0-4-81-43.9
university....0-0-0-0-4-7-21.4


ALLOCATION --

flags = 20 pts
r-ups = 10 pts
minor-premierships = 15 pts
finals = 5 pts
spoons = -1 pts
w-l = w-l
ranking = total/seasons


MATH --

Carlton....320+320+130+255-2 = 1023/109 = 9.39 + 59.9 = 69.29
Collingwood....370+280+250+255-2 = 1153/109 = 10.58 + 60.4 = 70.98
Essendon....305+320+140+225-3 = 987/109 = 9.06 + 57.9 = 66.96
Richmond....170+200+110+120-5 = 595/98 = 6.07 + 51.2 = 57.27
Melbourne....180+240+50+135-9 = 596/106 = 5.62 + 46.9 = 52.52
Hawthorn....125+180+50+105-11 = 449/81 = 5.54 + 46.1 = 51.64
Fitzroy....145+160+50+60-9 = 406/100 = 4.06 + 45.1 = 49.16
Geelong....235+120+70+165-5 = 585/106 = 5.52 + 51.7 = 57.22
North Melbourne....125+80+50+60-13 = 302/81 = 3.73 + 43.6 = 47.33
South Melb/Sydney...155+80+90+105-11 = 419/108 = 3.88 + 45.7 = 49.58
West Coast....70+40+20+30 = 160/19 = 8.42 + 56.7 = 65.12
Adelaide....30+40+15 = 85/15 = 5.67 + 51.1 = 56.77
Port Adelaide....25+20+45 = 90/9 = 10.0 + 58.5 = 68.50
Fremantle....5-1 = 4/11 = 0.36 + 37.9 = 38.26
Brisbane Bears....10-2 = 8/10 = 0.80 + 32.4 = 33.20
Brisbane Lions....35+60+10-1 = 104/9 = 11.56 + 60.4 = 71.96
St Kilda....100+20+40+30-27 = 163/107 = 1.52 + 37.3 = 38.82
Footscray....100+20+10-4 = 126/81 = 1.56 + 43.9 = 45.46
University....-4 = -4/7 = -0.57 + 21.4 = 20.83




FINAL RANKINGS --

1. Brisbane Lions 71.96
2. Collingwood 70.98
3. Carlton 69.29
4. Port Adelaide 68.50
5. Essendon 66.96
6. West Coast 65.12
7. Richmond 57.27
8. Geelong 57.22
9. Adelaide 56.77
10. Melbourne 52.52
11. Hawthorn 51.64
12. South Melb/Sydney 49.58
13. Fitzroy 49.16
14. North Melbourne 47.33
15. Footscray 45.46
16. St Kilda 38.82
17. Fremantle 38.26
18. Brisbane Bears 33.20
19. University 20.83

Compltetely inaacurate way to measure success. Completely off the ball. You have got way too much time mate. How can you rank Brisbane as no.1 when they have been in the competition for 18 years and a team like Carlton has been in it for 106? See my point? Not a good set up sunshine.

 

[skilts]

Compltetely inaacurate way to measure success. Completely off the ball. You have got way too much time mate. How can you rank Brisbane as no.1 when they have been in the competition for 18 years and a team like Carlton has been in it for 106? See my point? Not a good set up sunshine.

Have you thought of reading the thread before replying, or is that beneath your dignity?

P.S. Love your precise way of spelling 'completely inaccurate'. Most creative.