Rate my SuperCoach team 2012 (Part II)

[MattAKA]

There wasnt a team to rate above but on the Watson debate i was happy with him at the start of the year and still considering him

My Team:

Goddard, Deledio, HShaw, Lake, Hargrave,
Ellis, Morris,Mohr,Darley

Ablett, Boyd, Priddis, Selwwod
Neale, Magner, McDonald, Gibson

Cox, Mumford,
Giles, Stephenson

Martin, Gray, Hurley, Sidebottom, JBrown
Cooyou, Smedts,Kennedy,Kerridge

Pretty clear i have a bunch of mid pricers mainly in the forwards, i could downgrade a ruck n upgrade nearly all of them but i dunno i kinda like a mid price forward line this year, thoughts?

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Important that everyone goes with what they think will work the best. Who knows what will happen. I'v got some different players in mine that others wouldnt even look at. I remember last year Pez you were giving a lot of advise to people but not sure how you ended up going??

What has my position got to do with anything? If I want to know where I finished then search for it!

People want feedback, I'll give it. I may not have the best team either, but I sure know the sort of players to stay clear of.

There is no doubt he has picked a team based on his Essendon bias, which is clearly hampering his side. To read he has Falou and Hunt now also, I am quite dumbfounded to how he could say I have no idea.

Each to their own. Would people rather honest advice or a simple 'looks good mate 8/10 side, what you think of mine?'

 

[lamaros]

Go for it, mate.

It's your team not mine!

Just completely disregard the fact they are coming back from knee reco's and both have poor injury records

You better have a look at Grimes, Higgins, Kerr and co. whilst you're at it!

Kerr last player 19 games in a season in 2005. Higgins did it in 2007. Grimes never has. Winderlich and Dempsey are nowhere near that category, playing 19+ games in both 2009 and 2010. ACLs stopped them in 2011, but an ACL is a completely different kind of injury worry.

Is lake an injury worry?

 

[velour_fog]

I don't think Fisher is a good pic like the rest

Goodes in your midfield is interesting, could work, but maybe need another premium midfielder and put goodes into your forwardline

Zorko - I thought he was still injured?

Personally, I want to see how Goddard goes and target him as an upgrade.

Rucks a good balance between a premium and a risk that could pay off big.

Kavanagh is a bold move

Thanks for the feedback mate! Much appreciated!

I will keep an eye on Zorko and look at changing. My reasoning behind Goodes in the Mids is that he provides a (potentially) good scoring option and allows MPP with my other MPPs in the FWD line. Does this work/make sense? (I didn't usee MPP last yr and got caught out)

Like Goodes I was thinking of Gods as an MPP with my backline (any better options than Gods?)

I have traded out Fisher.

What are peoples thoughts on Lake? Seemed to go ok today

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Kerr last player 19 games in a season in 2005. Higgins did it in 2007. Grimes never has. Winderlich and Dempsey are nowhere near that category, playing 19+ games in both 2009 and 2010. ACLs stopped them in 2011, but an ACL is a completely different kind of injury worry.

Is lake an injury worry?

Of course he is, why do you think so many people are being so cautious?

He was ok today, if he backs it up next week he may well be worth the risk.

 

[lamaros]

What has my position got to do with anything? If I want to know where I finished then search for it!

People want feedback, I'll give it. I may not have the best team either, but I sure know the sort of players to stay clear of.

There is no doubt he has picked a team based on his Essendon bias, which is clearly hampering his side. To read he has Falou and Hunt now also, I am quite dumbfounded to how he could say I have no idea.

Each to their own. Would people rather honest advice or a simple 'looks good mate 8/10 side, what you think of mine?'

It would be a bias if I picked Fletcher or 5 random rookies. Picking players you know well and have researched isn't bias.

Early season ACLs from proven first 22 players/scorers are good value: which is why I've picked Hayes too.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

It would be a bias if I picked Fletcher or 5 random rookies. Picking players you know well and have researched isn't bias.

Early season ACLs from proven first 22 players/scorers are good value: which is why I've picked Hayes too.

Why do you think it's necessary to take so many risks though?

 

[lamaros]

Why do you think it's necessary to take so many risks though?

I honestly don't see it as a risk. I'm pretty comfortable picking guys who did an ACL 10+ months ago who have done a full rehab and a pre-season. I consider them no more likely to get injured again than anyone else. And they're all available at a reduced price.

All things being equal the four 2011-injured guys I've picked up would cost ~2 million. I've got them for ~1.25 million. That's a big leg up. I'm doubling up by making the 5/6/7th cash cows guys who can also put out a decent score - and maybe even save an upgrade trade.

Guys who keep getting different injuries (an Essendon example is Pears) - and have yet to put in full seasons since then - are the ones I want to stay away from, because who knows what will break next. Guys who've had injury problems before in one area (Winderlich was back/hamstrings, Dempsey was hamstrings) but who have since moved past them don't score me just because they're unlucky enough to get an ACL. Especially when I've seen them play a game or two (as I have with Hayes, Lake, Dempsey - half a game with Winders).

I'm still tossing up if I will put in what I see the more risky injury players like Didak...

 

[ThePezDispenser]

It's not just their likelihood to be able to stay on the park, it's whether they can get back scoring at the same rate..

 

[lamaros]

It's not just their likelihood to be able to stay on the park, it's whether they can get back scoring at the same rate..

I've done a post on this before, but as a general rule players who do an ACL will score close to what they scored previously given time. The earlier in the season the ACL the quicker they get back to that form. Generally one pre-season is what you want to be confident.

I'll see if I can find the other post.

EDIT: Can't find the post. But some examples: Hayes did his ACL in round 9 2006. Broke his collarbone in 2007 as well, but still averaged 102 for the year and 101 for 2008. Goddard did his ACL in 2007 in round 7. Averaged 118 in 2008.

 

[TheCattery2007]

REM. SALARY CAP
$41,300

Defenders

1. Goddard, B
2. Scotland, H
3. Deledio, B
4. Burgoyne, S
5. Lake, B
6. McKernan, S
7. Smedts, B
23. Ellis, B
24. Wilkes, B

Mids
8. Ablett, G
9. Dangerfield, P
10. Scully, T
11. Hayes, L
12. Christensen, A
13. Coniglio, S
25. Hogan, S
26. Clifton, S

Rucks
14. Naitanui, N
15. Giles, J
27. Cordy, A
28. Stephensen, O

Forwards

16. Goodes, A
17. Martin, D
18. Lewis, J
19. Riewoldt, N
20. Bennell, H
21. Winderlich, J
22. Johnston, L
29. Horlin-Smith, G
30. McIntyre, t

 

[devize]

Thoughts on my team appreciated, particularly the rookies

My thoughts are that if you you're too lazy to type out your team then I don't think anyone is going to bother trying to read all that and give you feedback.

Ah, you changed it after I posted it. Good.

In regards to your team, I think you should start again to be honest. You only have 6 premiums, that's not enough. You have too many mid-pricers and expensive rookies, get rid of some of them for bottom-end rookies and upgrade others to premiums.

 

[TheCattery2007]

My thoughts are that if you you're too lazy to type out your team then I don't think anyone is going to bother trying to read all that and give you feedback.

Ah, you changed it after I posted it. Good.

In regards to your team, I think you should start again to be honest. You only have 6 premiums, that's not enough. You have too many mid-pricers and expensive rookies, get rid of some of them for bottom-end rookies and upgrade others to premiums.

Thanks mate, appreciate the feedback. Had focused on multi position players but didn't seem right. Will have another crack

 

[The choder boys]

Nothing to rate above, I'm new to the site so any feedback would be appreciated.
So here's my team:

Backs: Goddard, deledio, H.shaw, broughton, lake, Ellis, bugg (darley,Wilkes)

Mids: ablett, Boyd, J.selwood, dangerfield, d.smith, j McDonald (magner,Gibson)

Rucks: Mummy, Giles (stephenson,redden)

Fwds: Buddy, Pav, fyfe, okeefe, Martin, pfieffer, smedts (Hampton,kerridge)

Happy with the premiums just the rookies any feedback would be great
Cheers

 

[slammer73]

I think there may be an injury cloub over James Magner?
A strong defence a gamble with Lake though.
O'Keefe to hot/cold for my liking

Overall a good balance

 

[slammer73]

Kerr although has the potential for high scores gives too many free kicks away and the fear is he can always lose the plot at any given time. Lets see him in the NAB GF before he is penciled in!

 

[The choder boys]

I think there may be an injury cloub over James Magner?
A strong defence a gamble with Lake though.
O'Keefe to hot/cold for my liking

Overall a good balance

Yeah I was tossing up between chappy and okeefe still not sure

 

[back2cat]

Nothing to rate above, I'm new to the site so any feedback would be appreciated.
So here's my team:

Backs: Goddard, deledio, H.shaw, broughton, lake, Ellis, bugg (darley,Wilkes)

Mids: ablett, Boyd, J.selwood, dangerfield, d.smith, j McDonald (magner,Gibson)

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Happy with the premiums just the rookies any feedback would be great
Cheers

I know you said you were happy with premiums but I think a second ruckman is needed, maybe drop okeefe to get burger or mcintosh


I got 2 teams im working on

Backs: Goddard, deledio, H.scotland, lake, clarke, buntine, docherty (smedts,brown)

Mids: *ablett, murphy, pendles, jimmy b, k horsely, shiel, *(jMcDonald,t mitchell)

Rucks: cox, burger (stephenson,giles)

Fwds: s johnson, harvey, martin, r gray, tomlinson, saad, zorko (walsh,rowe)

or


Backs: Goddard, deledio, H.scotland, lake, clarke, spurr, docherty (sierakowski,brown)


Mids: ablett, martin, swan, jimmy b, coniglio, shiel, (jMcDonald,t mitchell)

Rucks: cox, goldstein (stephenson,giles)

Fwds: s johnson, harvey, goodes, r gray, petrie , saad, zorko (smedts,treloar)

 

[Happy Daze]

I know you said you were happy with premiums but I think a second ruckman is needed, maybe drop okeefe to get burger or mcintosh


I got 2 teams im working on

Backs: Goddard, deledio, H.scotland, lake, clarke, buntine, docherty (smedts,brown)

Mids: *ablett, murphy, pendles, jimmy b, k horsely, shiel, *(jMcDonald,t mitchell)

Rucks: cox, burger (stephenson,giles)

Fwds: s johnson, harvey, martin, r gray, tomlinson, saad, zorko (walsh,rowe)

or


Backs: Goddard, deledio, H.scotland, lake, clarke, spurr, docherty (sierakowski,brown)


Mids: ablett, martin, swan, jimmy b, coniglio, shiel, (jMcDonald,t mitchell)

Rucks: cox, goldstein (stephenson,giles)

Fwds: s johnson, harvey, goodes, r gray, petrie , saad, zorko (smedts,treloar)

Pretty impressive - be careful with rucks though as both Berger and Goldy have question marks over their scoring due to sharing the load this year potentially. Question mark over Lids too I think due to injury and also because of the bad draw the Tiges have over the first part of the season - having said that he's a genuine premo apparently up for more midfield work this season. Not sure what's up with Docherty but haven't really seen too much of him this preseason - I too had him tentatively pencilled in but that's got a lot more tentative. Probably prefer Swanny over Pendles at this stage - all of those premo mids will probably drop in price but Pendles more so obviously - but he's THE most consistent primo mid in the comp having said that.

Harvey's scores have been slowly dropping away year on year but he'll probably start like a house on fire and then taper off through the season. I think the Roos look much stronger this season which should help him, but I'm not sold. Goodes and Johnson I see as upgrade targets, not as starters and 50% of teams have Buddy on their roster and frankly I think if you don't you are missing the boat - yes he is up and down but the Hawks look sensational at this early stage in the season which should assist his already phenomenal scoring ability. Not sure why you have Jimmy B because he's not really a good supercoach scorer (great player though obviously) - think there are better options around - maybe if you downgrade Pendles for the first few weeks and pick up someone else you can use the extra cash to pick another over Jimmy B.

 

[Franky_024]

Been playing with mine over the weekend so prob will change a thing or 2 after next week and round 1 teams obviously, also keeping close on on magner being the only injury concern at this stage.

Backs - Goddard, Shaw, Scotland, Deledio, Lake, Hargrave, Ellis (Bugg, Morris)
Mids - Ablett, Watson, Dangerfield, Redden, Parker, Magner (Miles, Cunningham)
Rucks - Jacobs, Redden (Derickx, Stephenson)
Forwards - Franklin, Martin, Fyfe, Dahlhaus, Callihan, Porplyzia, Motlop (Hampton, Gilles)

 

[Judd_Magic]

Franky I would downgrade Callihan to a rookie and upgrade Dahlhaus to a premium.

Rest of the team looks great IMO.

 

[thepokey]

So this is my first year back in Supercoach after not participating the last 2 years due to being overseas, keen to get some thoughts on what I put together so far:

BACKS:
Goddard
Shaw
Broughton
Lake
Demspey
Buntine
Bower
(Ellis, Bugg)

MIDS:
Ablett
Pendles
Murphy
Dangerfield
Wingard
McDonald
(Shiel, T.Mitchell)

RUCKS:
Cox
Mummy
(Giles, Stephensen)

FORWARDS:
Buddy
Martin
Zaharakis
Gray
Tomlinson
Pfeiffer
Smedts
(Zorko, Weedon)

with only 19k left over.

 

[The choder boys]

I know you said you were happy with premiums but I think a second ruckman is needed, maybe drop okeefe to get burger or mcintosh


I got 2 teams im working on

Backs: Goddard, deledio, H.scotland, lake, clarke, buntine, docherty (smedts,brown)

Mids: *ablett, murphy, pendles, jimmy b, k horsely, shiel, *(jMcDonald,t mitchell)

Rucks: cox, burger (stephenson,giles)

Fwds: s johnson, harvey, martin, r gray, tomlinson, saad, zorko (walsh,rowe)

or


Backs: Goddard, deledio, H.scotland, lake, clarke, spurr, docherty (sierakowski,brown)


Mids: ablett, martin, swan, jimmy b, coniglio, shiel, (jMcDonald,t mitchell)

Rucks: cox, goldstein (stephenson,giles)

Fwds: s johnson, harvey, goodes, r gray, petrie , saad, zorko (smedts,treloar)

Personally I like team number 1 but a little cautious over boomer whether he has another good year in him. I would lean toward someone a bit younger.
And my theory on one prem ruck is that it's going to be easier down the track to upgrade one premium ruck and two forwards rather than trying to upgrade three frwds

 

[slammer73]

Been playing with mine over the weekend so prob will change a thing or 2 after next week and round 1 teams obviously, also keeping close on on magner being the only injury concern at this stage.

Backs - Goddard, Shaw, Scotland, Deledio, Lake, Hargrave, Ellis (Bugg, Morris)
Mids - Ablett, Watson, Dangerfield, Redden, Parker, Magner (Miles, Cunningham)
Rucks - Jacobs, Redden (Derickx, Stephenson)
Forwards - Franklin, Martin, Fyfe, Dahlhaus, Callihan, Porplyzia, Motlop (Hampton, Gilles)

Lake and Hargrave in the same Backline, would you have Pendles and Swan??? Risky

 

[slammer73]

So this is my first year back in Supercoach after not participating the last 2 years due to being overseas, keen to get some thoughts on what I put together so far:

BACKS:
Goddard
Shaw
Broughton
Lake
Demspey
Buntine
Bower
(Ellis, Bugg)

MIDS:
Ablett
Pendles
Murphy
Dangerfield
Wingard
McDonald
(Shiel, T.Mitchell)

RUCKS:
Cox
Mummy
(Giles, Stephensen)

FORWARDS:
Buddy
Martin
Zaharakis
Gray
Tomlinson
Pfeiffer
Smedts
(Zorko, Weedon)

with only 19k left over.

19K not much to play with if you want to upgrade some cheaper rookies to more expensive ones after the first 2 round before $ go up!