Rate my Team (Part IV)

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There is a few other little things that I think come in to it.
For starters, forwardline rookies are generally better than ruck rookies (although Warnock may prove to be somewhat of an exception). So in the case that Hille goes down for say 2-3 weeks and you don't want to trade him, DPing Tippett into the rucks under the assumption you will probably have better cover in your forwards may be an option. So in short, you expect a greater score from a forward rookie than a ruck rookie in the short term.

The other, and more important issue in my opinion is that Hille may not become a premium and in the event you choose to downgrade him, there should be better options to upgrade to in the forward line. It also means any money Lobbe has earned gets put to use.
So for example, Hille gets to 300k by mid season but stagnates. Tippet had played well and can legitimately be justified as a premium ruck, but maybe not an out and out premium forward (remember that a premium ruck scores well below a premium forward on the whole, i.e. top 10 of forwards v top 10 rucks). Lobbe has played a couple of games and is worth 150k.
Downgrade Hille to a 77k player (you aren't going to be using another cow here so it is obviously irrelevant), swap Tippett in and you now have just under 400k to spend on upgrading Lobbe to maybe a forward who has slipped in price (ROK was 360k halfway through last year).
Effectively Hille becomes a cash cow of sorts, although it isn't ideal.

In the event you don't have Tippett, you are forced to either straight trade Hille using whatever he is worth or you are forced to downgrade a player in another area (may not be such a bad thing). But then you only have the choice of a much more limited group of players.

The other simple thing is, if you were legitimately just wanted Hille and Tippett in their respective positions, which some do, then the logical choice is to simply have Lobbe as well for the extra security it provides in the event a lot of things go wrong.
It provides a bit of flexibility I guess.

In saying all that, I haven't gone down the DP road with Lobbe/Tippett. I personally think if you believe Tippett is going to end up in your rucks, you might as well start him there, especially with Warnock proving to be solid cover.
Not only that, but I picture a 230k forward rookie is going to be more fruitful than a 230k ruckman in Hille, which is the compromise if you switch them over.

That's just my take on it, I'm probably missing something though :p
Good explination, i still think lobbe is not necessary ALTHOUGH for the 10k you probably should get him for the few upsides there are like this
 
Ziebell or Hall?
Ash McGrath or Hurn?

Ziebell has a lot more upside IMO. Hall can kick 6 or 7 and still not crack the ton whereas Zieball will consistently rack up score of 70+. If and when Hall has a quieter game when playing on the likes of Scarlett, Glass, Rutten etc he will pull some very low numbers.

McGrath and Hurn are more suited to Supercoach but if i had to choose i'd go with Hurn. Is developing steadily and is a great user. McGrath at his best is better (DT) but Hurn is consistently better (DT).
 
Final....

Backs
Goddard, Enright, Hodge, Thornton, Kennelly, Hunt, Waters....Maguire, Nason

Mids
Bartel, Boyd, Stanton, Mackay, Martin, Barlow....Trengove, Shuey

Rucks
Sandi, Ottens.......Warnock, Lobbe

Forwards
Riewoldt, ROK, Gia, Buddy, Tippet, Buchanan, Wright.....Hitchcock, Gumby

Forward line is probably what is a little different to most others. Can cover Buddy for R1. If i'm going to try and pick him up later in the season, I'd rather have him from the start. Buchanan....think he will slot in well to the Lions forward line, had a good preseason. Wright...just hoping he holds his spot. Could get Hall, but just don't see it. When he gets Presti, Glass and the likes he will struggle, and no doubt try and knock someone out. Medhurst???.......well he can really go missing at times.....
 

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Final....

Backs
Goddard, Enright, Hodge, Thornton, Kennelly, Hunt, Waters....Maguire, Nason

Mids
Bartel, Boyd, Stanton, Mackay, Martin, Barlow....Trengove, Shuey

Rucks
Sandi, Ottens.......Warnock, Lobbe

Forwards
Riewoldt, ROK, Gia, Buddy, Tippet, Buchanan, Wright.....Hitchcock, Gumby

Forward line is probably what is a little different to most others. Can cover Buddy for R1. If i'm going to try and pick him up later in the season, I'd rather have him from the start. Buchanan....think he will slot in well to the Lions forward line, had a good preseason. Wright...just hoping he holds his spot. Could get Hall, but just don't see it. When he gets Presti, Glass and the likes he will struggle, and no doubt try and knock someone out. Medhurst???.......well he can really go missing at times.....
I really like the midfield, unique and has the potential to score BIG.:thumbsu:

Agree about Medhurst too, I think he's more of a SC player.

Here's mine:

Backs:
Goddard
Enright
Hodge
Shaw
Malceski
Hunt
Waters

Nason
McGuire

Mid:
Swan
Bartel
Mitchell (am tempted to change him to someone of a similar price)
Masten
Martin
Barlow

Trengove
Shuey

Rucks:
Clark
Hille

Warnock
Bass

Fwd:
Riewoldt
O'Keefe
Pavlich
Franklin
Ziebell
Hall
Gumbleton

Rockliffe
Hitchcock

$34,100 left.
 
Can someone rate mine, please?

Did well last night with Bower & Kruezer. Yarran did ok as well. Martin average, but hopefully he will improve.

I've gone for a different backline to most. No Goddard or Enright, but I think Kelly, Hodge & Ellis will spend time in the midfield this year and Bower to improve.

Backs:
Kelly
Hodge
H.Shaw
Bower
Ellis
Kennelly
Hunt

McGuire
Nason

Didn't spend big on the midfield, but Cooney, Ball & Kerr are all under priced and will be back in a big way this year. Have midfield power up forward in Gia,Harvey, Goodes & Pav and Kelly, Hodge & Ellis in the back line for midfield cover.

Mid:
Okeefe
Cooney
Ball
Kerr
Martin
Barlow

L. Jetta
Shuey

Bit of gamble with Cox. Kruezer will play ruck all year no matter what people are saying. Warnock & Hampson are back up ruckmen at best and Kruezer is more value to the team on the ball.

Rucks:
Cox
Kruezer

Warnock
J. Trentgrove

Fwd:
Riewoldt
Goodes
Pavlich
Harvey
Giansiracussa
Hall
Yarran

Gumbleton
Podsiadly

$21.500 in the bank
 
Can someone rate mine, please?

Did well last night with Bower & Kruezer. Yarran did ok as well. Martin average, but hopefully he will improve.

I've gone for a different backline to most. No Goddard or Enright, but I think Kelly, Hodge & Ellis will spend time in the midfield this year and Bower to improve.

Backs:
Kelly
Hodge
H.Shaw
Bower
Ellis
Kennelly
Hunt

McGuire
Nason

Didn't spend big on the midfield, but Cooney, Ball & Kerr are all under priced and will be back in a big way this year. Have midfield power up forward in Gia,Harvey, Goodes & Pav and Kelly, Hodge & Ellis in the back line for midfield cover.

Mid:
Okeefe
Cooney
Ball
Kerr
Martin
Barlow

L. Jetta
Shuey

Bit of gamble with Cox. Kruezer will play ruck all year no matter what people are saying. Warnock & Hampson are back up ruckmen at best and Kruezer is more value to the team on the ball.

Rucks:
Cox
Kruezer

Warnock
J. Trentgrove

Fwd:
Riewoldt
Goodes
Pavlich
Harvey
Giansiracussa
Hall
Yarran

Gumbleton
Podsiadly

$21.500 in the bank

Ellis is a risk but stick with him if that's your gut instinct.

I don't like your midfield. O'Keefe should only be a MID if it's to utilise DPP and even then it's not advisable. Kerr is underpriced for a reason, he usually underdelivers. With WC rotating youth through the midfield a lot more this year, that isn't likely to change (though personally I'd love if it did.) Shuey is a good pick.

I like that you've picked Cox, but be wary of the Naitanui effect. They will be rotating throughout the game so you need to trust Cox to pick up possessions on the HF line.

You've spent too much on your forward line. Downgrade Goodes to, say, Warren and use the cash to build your midfield.

My $0.02.
 
Time for my team.

B - Goddard, Hargrave, Krakouer, Dempsey, Gwilt, Kennelly, Maguire (Farmer, Silvagni)

C - Swan, Montagna, Boak, Hodge, Barlow, Martin (Hartlett, Duncan)

R - Kreuzer, McEvoy (Charman, Warnock)

F - Davis, Goodes, Pavlich, Waite, Medhurst, Warren, Dangerfield (Hitchcock, Roberts)
Can someone please rate mine.
 
Ellis is a risk but stick with him if that's your gut instinct.

I don't like your midfield. O'Keefe should only be a MID if it's to utilise DPP and even then it's not advisable. Kerr is underpriced for a reason, he usually underdelivers. With WC rotating youth through the midfield a lot more this year, that isn't likely to change (though personally I'd love if it did.) Shuey is a good pick.

I like that you've picked Cox, but be wary of the Naitanui effect. They will be rotating throughout the game so you need to trust Cox to pick up possessions on the HF line.

You've spent too much on your forward line. Downgrade Goodes to, say, Warren and use the cash to build your midfield.

My $0.02.

Thanks for your advice. I've been in two minds about Goodes, as I already have Roo and Pav. I've dropped Goodes, moved ROK to the forward line and Bought Joel Selwood for my midfield. Still a lot of money in my forward line, but ROK is a gun. I can always downgrade the forward line and put it in the midfield if the guys I have there don't perform.

As for Kerr, I realize he has not delivered for a couple of seasons now, but he is far too good of a player to not get back to somewhere near his best, sooner or later. At 271k, definitely worth a punt.
 
Time for my team.

B - Goddard, Hargrave, Krakouer, Dempsey, Gwilt, Kennelly, Maguire (Farmer, Silvagni)

C - Swan, Montagna, Boak, Hodge, Barlow, Martin (Hartlett, Duncan)

R - Kreuzer, McEvoy (Charman, Warnock)

F - Davis, Goodes, Pavlich, Waite, Medhurst, Warren, Dangerfield (Hitchcock, Roberts)

I'll add a few seletion notes for my team.

I realise that Charman and H.Hartlett are injured but prepared to wait for Charman. Very unsure on Hartlett, like him but probably could use money much better elsewhere. Gwilt i got because i expect him to stand up in the absence of Fisher early on. I think he will be used as both an accountable defender and a rebounding defender. Will actually change Hartlett now after thinking about it. Not prepared to lose that much $.
 
B - Goddard, Hargrave, Krakouer, Dempsey, Gwilt, Kennelly, Maguire (Farmer, Silvagni)

C - Swan, Montagna, Boak, Hodge, Barlow, Martin (Shuey, Duncan)

R - Kreuzer, McEvoy (Charman, Warnock)

F - Davis, Goodes, Pavlich, Giansiracusa, Waite, Medhurst, Dangerfield (Hitchcock, Roberts)

Changed Hartlett to Shuey and Warren to Gia. Have about 30k spare. Thoughts?
 
I really like the midfield, unique and has the potential to score BIG.:thumbsu:

Agree about Medhurst too, I think he's more of a SC player.

Here's mine:

Backs:
Goddard
Enright
Hodge
Shaw
Malceski
Hunt
Waters

Nason
McGuire

Mid:
Swan
Bartel
Mitchell (am tempted to change him to someone of a similar price)
Masten
Martin
Barlow

Trengove
Shuey

Rucks:
Clark
Hille

Warnock
Bass

Fwd:
Riewoldt
O'Keefe
Pavlich
Franklin
Ziebell
Hall
Gumbleton

Rockliffe
Hitchcock

$34,100 left.

Bass wont play a game mate, as much as I would love him too.

Not bad a team besides of that.

Here is my updated team;

Thoughts?

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Hey Guys,

What do you think?

Enright, Broughton, Hodge, Shaw, Kennelly, Hunt, Waters
Nason, Farmer

Shaw, Bartel, Watson, Shiels, Martin, Barlow
Shuey, Jetta

Sandilands, Hille
Warnock, Lobbe

Riewoldt, O'Keefe, Pavlich, Giansiracusa, Tippett, Medhurst, Hall
Hitchcock, Gumbleton
 

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Not a huge fan of Lobbe in teams at the moment,

Really unsure on how we will be setting up our Ruck Department this year, and he seems to have fallen slightly out of favour at the current time.

Will probably get games, but later this year.
 
Please Rate Mine!!

Backs:

Goddard
Enright
Duffield
Hodge
Shaw
Hunt
Waters

Maguire(e)
Nason

Mids:
Bartel(c)
Mitchell(vc)
Ball
Trengove
Martin
Barlow

Shuey
Bastinac(e)


Rucks:
Sandilands
Hille

Warnock
Lobbe


Forwards:
Reiwoldt
O'Keefe
Pavlich
Giansiracusa
Tippett
Hall
Betts

Hitchcock(e)
Podsiadly


I would love to hear your thoughts!
 
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I've also considered Matthew Lobbe instead of James Podsiadly in the Forward line, with Rhys Stanley in as 4th Ruck. Rick Ladson> Beau Waters on it's own, or in order to enable Kurt Tippett > Lance Franklin is also a consideration. Thoughts?

You have spent way too much in your mids and are relying heavily on cheap/rookie players in your forwards and backs.

I'd downgrade some of your mid guns to make your other lines more solid unless you really think this structure will work.
 
Please Rate Mine!!

Backs:
Goddard
Enright
Duffield
Hodge
Shaw
Hunt
Waters

Maguire(e)
Nason

Mids:
Bartel(c)
Mitchell(vc)
Ball
Trengove
Martin
Barlow

Shuey
Bastinac(e)

Rucks:
Sandilands
Hille

Warnock
Lobbe

Forwards:
Reiwoldt
O'Keefe
Pavlich
Giansiracusa
Tippett
Hall
Betts

Hitchcock(e)
Podsiadly

I would love to hear your thoughts!

Really solid team, no flaws at all really. If you have any extra cash you could get Gumbleton instead of Pods as he'll play more often (barring injury). Betts is the one unique pick there and so far you'd be pretty happy with him, good work.
 
Really solid team, no flaws at all really. If you have any extra cash you could get Gumbleton instead of Pods as he'll play more often (barring injury). Betts is the one unique pick there and so far you'd be pretty happy with him, good work.

thankyou very much mate

ive put alot of time into it!!

nah unfortunately i only have 10k left so no gumby 4 me!!

thanks mate!!
 
I think i'm finally happy with my team, can anyone suggest if i need to make anymore changes?

Defenders: Goddard, Hodge, Shaw, Gilbee, Kennelly, Hunt, Waters
(Maguire, Trengove)

Midfielders: Ablett, Bartel, Boyd, Cooney, Martin, Barlow
(Jetta, Shuey)

Rucks: Tippett, Hille
(Warnock, Lobbe)

Forwards: Riewoldt, O'Keefe, Pavlich, Franklin, LeCras, Dangerfield, Mayne
(Gumbleton, Hitchcock)

Remaining: $3,800

For Round 1 Gumbleton in for Franklin
 
You have spent way too much in your mids and are relying heavily on cheap/rookie players in your forwards and backs.

I'd downgrade some of your mid guns to make your other lines more solid unless you really think this structure will work.

One reason I've gone with this structure is that providing all the mids stay fit, I potentially don't have to change my Midfield for the entire year (maybe upgrade Ball if he doesn't perform to expectations). Same goes for my Rucks. However, the more important reason is value for money - I'm likely to get better value from premium mids than premium forwards or backs. Which non-mids apart from Riewoldt, Chapman, Goddard, Cox and Sandilands consistently post 100+ scores? Most of the best Forwards and Backs max out at an 85-90 average, with a few slightly inconsistent/injury prone exceptions in the 95 range. I'm pretty much guaranteed to get at least 100 from each of those mids (Ball being the only iffy one), with potential for much more every week, so it's money well spent from the start IMO. Apart from Goddard, Enright, Hodge and Riewoldt (all of who I intend to keep for the duration), all of my Forwards and Backs have potential to make money and be upgraded, while posting solid scores in the meantime.
 
I think i'm finally happy with my team, can anyone suggest if i need to make anymore changes?

Defenders: Goddard, Hodge, Shaw, Gilbee, Kennelly, Hunt, Waters
(Maguire, Trengove)

Midfielders: Ablett, Bartel, Boyd, Cooney, Martin, Barlow
(Jetta, Shuey)

Rucks: Tippett, Hille
(Warnock, Lobbe)

Forwards: Riewoldt, O'Keefe, Pavlich, Franklin, LeCras, Dangerfield, Mayne
(Gumbleton, Hitchcock)

Remaining: $3,800

For Round 1 Gumbleton in for Franklin

yep, good solid side mate
if anyting, i would try to get a sandi/hmac/clark in rick, but other than that it is sound!
 
One reason I've gone with this structure is that providing all the mids stay fit, I potentially don't have to change my Midfield for the entire year (maybe upgrade Ball if he doesn't perform to expectations). Same goes for my Rucks. However, the more important reason is value for money - I'm likely to get better value from premium mids than premium forwards or backs. Which non-mids apart from Riewoldt, Chapman, Goddard, Cox and Sandilands consistently post 100+ scores? Most of the best Forwards and Backs max out at an 85-90 average, with a few slightly inconsistent/injury prone exceptions in the 95 range. I'm pretty much guaranteed to get at least 100 from each of those mids (Ball being the only iffy one), with potential for much more every week, so it's money well spent from the start IMO. Apart from Goddard, Enright, Hodge and Riewoldt (all of who I intend to keep for the duration), all of my Forwards and Backs have potential to make money and be upgraded, while posting solid scores in the meantime.
its actually a breath of fresh air to see a completely different structure and game plan. The midfield alone will score you 850+ most weeks. Youre ruck division also wont need changing, and youve got 3 locks for backs and 2 for forwards, leaving you with 9 upgrades.

Youll need a fair bit of luck however as ladson, moore and hitchcock will struggle to be named 6-8 weeks in a row when your first cash cows are ready for upgrading. Your forward line in particular will cause you grief.

Anyway hope it all pans out well for ya :)
 
its actually a breath of fresh air to see a completely different structure and game plan. The midfield alone will score you 850+ most weeks. Youre ruck division also wont need changing, and youve got 3 locks for backs and 2 for forwards, leaving you with 9 upgrades.

Youll need a fair bit of luck however as ladson, moore and hitchcock will struggle to be named 6-8 weeks in a row when your first cash cows are ready for upgrading. Your forward line in particular will cause you grief.

Anyway hope it all pans out well for ya :)

I used his structure last year and was top 300 for most of the year but struggled to find cash later in year with rookie fwds and backs simply aren't as likely to appreciate.
 

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