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No they dont - the woodend junior hawks is an independent club not associated or affiliated with Woodend/Hesket in any way and always has been. They've approached the junior club to become affiliated from next season in large part because of the points introduction, but that is not yet a given.
The points are not meant to be even. They never were going to be. Some teams have natural disadvantages with their juniors due to population and other factors. You seriously think teams like Lancefield, Rockbank, Diggers can compete long term with clubs like Rupo if there was not a clause to allocate extra points? The difference in junior numbers between those clubs would be staggering. Talking about towns of 2000 people or less. Rockbank and Lancefield in particular deserve immediate extra points. Rupo just has the good fortune of being founded in the biggest town in the area and being aligned with a large private school.
Most junior clubs in the RDFNL are independent from the senior bodies.
Dons81 is right, senior results IMO should have no bearing at all on points allocation, the good management of a senior club in its fundraising and recruitment today should not disadvantage committees of tomorrow. For example using Diggers as the example, my understanding is Diggers have a very restricted junior program, hopefully builds with new residential development, but what if, what if the current administration chuck it in and a whole new administration come in who cannot generate the $ or recruitment of the current, they have to operate on the same points as rupo and others just because they have been able to get to GF's in recent times. Crazy. Great to see small town clubs get additional points, they need them, and if not immediately, don't worry in two years time when this really kicks in they will. Read the article in the Ballarat Courier online, link below, have said for a long time, this is being sold as about individual clubs, it is about restricting player movement to leagues such as the RDFNL and making sure the Bendigo and Ballarat leagues remain the strongest, they have additional points, the commissioner and Chairman in the article do not keep their story consistent!!! Metro leagues have points up to 60, so how does the RDFNL attract players from Bendigo and Ballarat League, and the metro leagues when they are operating on a bigger points cap system??? Think about what's really going on.
http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/3417066/chiefs-shocked-at-chfl-concern/?cs=63
http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/3417066/chiefs-shocked-at-chfl-concern/?cs=63
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ZANIC ( LMAO ) he is not spoken very well of from his past clubs in the NFL seems a good bloke but has short comings as a coach in lack communication skills strange as he is a teacher by trade .
and has a lack of secondary ideas on game day when things are going south
Rupo just has the good fortune of being founded in the biggest town in the area and being aligned with a large private school.[/QUOTE]
Just perhaps - there is a little more to Rupo's junior success than a secondary school which doesn't really kick in until under 14 and its geographic positioning. There is no doubt that attracting juniors is an issue and I am the first to understand that some of our clubs are facing some tough issues, but this is statewide problem, regardless of the size of your town. Have a look at the Melton situation which is double the size of Sunbury and could only field three under 16 teams. Let's also not lose sight of the fact that there are four junior clubs in Sunbury alone all after the same kids. It would be fair to say that Rupo has the worst facilities of the lot and charges significantly more per membership because they actually have to pay for things like light towers, ground upgrades and room upgrades. So just maybe there is something else happening at Rupo. Perhaps the strong junior program has something to do with the fact that they value their juniors and put their money where their mouth is, put the resources, personnel and policies in place to ensure each kid is given a fair dinkum go. Perhaps some clubs should have a look at how they structure their juniors and try and follow suit. (Know they are only too happy to share their philosophy and processes). Probably only cost you one high profile import a year to make it happen !!??
What we all need to get our heads around is that we need as many kids playing junior footy as we can. We need to nurture them and respect them , regardless of their ability. They have so many more choices than we did as kids. If we all do this rather than work on how we can limit the success of some junior club programs by limiting the number of teams they can have in the wild hope that those 'extra kids will play elsewhere, we might find in ten years that we have an incredibly strong league ( both juniors and seniors ) and point systems will never be an issue for any of us.
Just perhaps - there is a little more to Rupo's junior success than a secondary school which doesn't really kick in until under 14 and its geographic positioning. There is no doubt that attracting juniors is an issue and I am the first to understand that some of our clubs are facing some tough issues, but this is statewide problem, regardless of the size of your town. Have a look at the Melton situation which is double the size of Sunbury and could only field three under 16 teams. Let's also not lose sight of the fact that there are four junior clubs in Sunbury alone all after the same kids. It would be fair to say that Rupo has the worst facilities of the lot and charges significantly more per membership because they actually have to pay for things like light towers, ground upgrades and room upgrades. So just maybe there is something else happening at Rupo. Perhaps the strong junior program has something to do with the fact that they value their juniors and put their money where their mouth is, put the resources, personnel and policies in place to ensure each kid is given a fair dinkum go. Perhaps some clubs should have a look at how they structure their juniors and try and follow suit. (Know they are only too happy to share their philosophy and processes). Probably only cost you one high profile import a year to make it happen !!??
What we all need to get our heads around is that we need as many kids playing junior footy as we can. We need to nurture them and respect them , regardless of their ability. They have so many more choices than we did as kids. If we all do this rather than work on how we can limit the success of some junior club programs by limiting the number of teams they can have in the wild hope that those 'extra kids will play elsewhere, we might find in ten years that we have an incredibly strong league ( both juniors and seniors ) and point systems will never be an issue for any of us.
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All very fair opinions on clubs but let's also ask what do the AFL do to help clubs. Bugger all.. They need to get around to clubs, councils, community and offer support. Even just sending players to a club a couple of times each year for pie nights or training etc, free of charge. I think the AFL have ignored grass roots footy..
They don't come around to schools much now also. Think the Melb Storm NRL do things and they are 1 organisation compared to the AFL.
Just on the Melton area (including BFL) they seem to be struggling a bit which to me is a big surprise considering the population. Just my thoughts from outside! I do stand to be corrected though.
They don't come around to schools much now also. Think the Melb Storm NRL do things and they are 1 organisation compared to the AFL.
Just on the Melton area (including BFL) they seem to be struggling a bit which to me is a big surprise considering the population. Just my thoughts from outside! I do stand to be corrected though.
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Just perhaps - there is a little more to Rupo's junior success than a secondary school which doesn't really kick in until under 14 and its geographic positioning. There is no doubt that attracting juniors is an issue and I am the first to understand that some of our clubs are facing some tough issues, but this is statewide problem, regardless of the size of your town. Have a look at the Melton situation which is double the size of Sunbury and could only field three under 16 teams. Let's also not lose sight of the fact that there are four junior clubs in Sunbury alone all after the same kids. It would be fair to say that Rupo has the worst facilities of the lot and charges significantly more per membership because they actually have to pay for things like light towers, ground upgrades and room upgrades. So just maybe there is something else happening at Rupo. Perhaps the strong junior program has something to do with the fact that they value their juniors and put their money where their mouth is, put the resources, personnel and policies in place to ensure each kid is given a fair dinkum go. Perhaps some clubs should have a look at how they structure their juniors and try and follow suit. (Know they are only too happy to share their philosophy and processes). Probably only cost you one high profile import a year to make it happen !!??
What we all need to get our heads around is that we need as many kids playing junior footy as we can. We need to nurture them and respect them , regardless of their ability. They have so many more choices than we did as kids. If we all do this rather than work on how we can limit the success of some junior club programs by limiting the number of teams they can have in the wild hope that those 'extra kids will play elsewhere, we might find in ten years that we have an incredibly strong league ( both juniors and seniors ) and point systems will never be an issue for any of us.[/QUOTE]
I agree with this post. Not because I'm a former rupo player but because of the fact a lot has changed at rupo over the years. Back in my time at rupo we were blessed because the school was a boarding school for one, and secondly it was an all boys school. Now there is no borders and the school is Co ed. You can't help but be impressed with the way the club is run and the senior and junior club has worked really hard over a long period to welcome many many many great volunteers. Rupo may have a few luxuries with location and a great junior program but they now have rolling meadows, diggers, kangas, lions, riddell, gisborne and many other clubs successfully recruiting their quality youth.
The only thing that I wish rupo could improve is to get a fence (even temperory) around the ground. Opposition teams have no idea where the boundary is. At worst case let cars park around the far side of the ground
I agree with this post. Not because I'm a former rupo player but because of the fact a lot has changed at rupo over the years. Back in my time at rupo we were blessed because the school was a boarding school for one, and secondly it was an all boys school. Now there is no borders and the school is Co ed. You can't help but be impressed with the way the club is run and the senior and junior club has worked really hard over a long period to welcome many many many great volunteers. Rupo may have a few luxuries with location and a great junior program but they now have rolling meadows, diggers, kangas, lions, riddell, gisborne and many other clubs successfully recruiting their quality youth.
The only thing that I wish rupo could improve is to get a fence (even temperory) around the ground. Opposition teams have no idea where the boundary is. At worst case let cars park around the far side of the ground[/QUOTE]
Agree mate. I think you'll find the school is the road block with the fence around the ground. Also with the state of the carpark. The club would love to do so much more but as we use college grounds everything needs to be approved by them.
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Been off the air for a bit but some interesting reading scrolling back, some well informed, some not so.
Interesting to read yesty's local over this way and several quotes from the RDFL side of the fence. It appears a few are of the belief that it's not in Kilmore's interest to leave hence why the move to this point was blocked.
Enough's enoguh, just let them go, you wont be competing against them in 2016 anyway, if it gives them a year or two's grace to try and find a workable solution then good luck to them. Surely seeing a club survive is more important these days.
The only alternative for them to stay in the RDFL IMO is for those quoting and blocking to come grab the keys and administer the club themselves as (sad as it's become) it's now apparent there is no one local willing to work or represent the club as an RDFL entity anymore.
Going back to the Woodend reference, we (kilmore jnrs) are not affiliated with the senior club either, fair to say we received nothing official communication wise re: current movements. I'd imagine most junior bodies would be similar so uncertain how that all works under this topic.
Good call Doona. Rest of the clubs need to accept they are not competing next year at senior level in the RDFL, who knows what happens in the future with league restructures etc we have heard about for the last 10 years but atleast they then have a future. I like the idea if RDFL want them in the league or other clubs, then run them themselves!
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they never stopped Melton melton south sunbury Lions and Darley from Leaving? no difference
As they should be.
I have seen too many clubs ruined by junior area of the club paying for the senior area of the club.
On the other hand I've seen it work really well. The strong connection between Rupo senior and junior arms is undoubtedly one of our strengths.
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As you say a connection.
All clubs should work to copy the current Rupo model but IMO they should always remain seperate clubs.
Not one administration.
There is no reason why it can't work. (Except ego)
It works for most clubs for varying lengths of time.
But at some stage things go don't go according to plan and the first thing to suffer is the junior side of the club.
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Enough of this for a little while guys (interesting)
Any player movement???? Have heard Romsey May have lost 7or 8 + a premiership coach ( what is going on there)
Mongrel can you shed some light on this
Any player movement???? Have heard Romsey May have lost 7or 8 + a premiership coach ( what is going on there)
Mongrel can you shed some light on this
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Yeah working wonders for rupo
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Who is coaching Romsey? Is it announced? Also I'm not sure if Skips locked in yet either, may have happened the past week or so but last time I was in contact he had yet sat down with the Bford powers that be.
Hope he hangs about, he deserves to see it thru now
Hope he hangs about, he deserves to see it thru now
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Congrats to Dean Romsey Back to Back to Back. No brain er really.
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Is anyone leaving romsey?
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Who has rupo picked up?
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