RDFL Season 2015

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Innovativefwd said:
Collis brothers at Wallan/Bonnie Doon are another pair. Changing leagues isn't going to simply change the culture and have blokes streaming back through the door all because they can sniff a few wins in a poor standard competition of football. Your good talent with time will not want to play the poor standard and continue to leave so what will they do then? The guys in the past have left for multiple reasons over the years, a lot based around administration issues from all reports.

Wally Marrett was a major issue and unfortunately no accountability has been made by him or his committee now or at the time rectify the past.

Perhaps look at resolving the issues first and then make a balanced decision on what the future holds.
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Well I do not know Wally Marrett nor the workings of the KFNC but for you to come on here potting the bloke I presume you know the facts?KFC have been around many years and have had many presidents coaches and players along the way.For you to single him out is poor form and I only presume you have served your club in a committee role and been successfull.Anyways I wish Kilmore all the best as a towns sporting clubs are very important for many people now and future.
 
Andyt33 said:
going to be interesting read in Ballarat Courier AFL GOLDFIELDS considering Combining Riddell DFL under 16.5 with Ballarat Juniors under 16.5 for 2017
one of the teams is Kilmore imagine if the seniors had got into Northern Football league lol
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there will not be a senior club. whats more important? the rdfl's desire to hold a club against its will or a club that has the will and desire to try and save itself and making a decision for themselves. there is no support to local clubs from AFL victoria, or from the AFL goldfields. Times are a changing. The NFL want Kilmore because the NFL as a league want to expand. They have a plan, a goal, a direction for the future. The rdfl has a gulf between the top clubs and the bottom clubs. Kilmore will never play Divvy 1 in NFL but then against niether will most Div 2/3 teams but at least if they get players back they can compete with hope.
 
barfly said:
Well I do not know Wally Marrett nor the workings of the KFNC but for you to come on here potting the bloke I presume you know the facts?KFC have been around many years and have had many presidents coaches and players along the way.For you to single him out is poor form and I only presume you have served your club in a committee role and been successfull.Anyways I wish Kilmore all the best as a towns sporting clubs are very important for many people now and future.
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Wally worked his backside off for the club, however his style of management was very STRONG and turned quite a few away but he did give it a crack and until you are in somebodys shoes it is hard to judge.
 

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there will not be a senior club. whats more important? the rdfl's desire to hold a club against its will or a club that has the will and desire to try and save itself and making a decision for themselves. there is no support to local clubs from AFL victoria, or from the AFL goldfields. Times are a changing. The NFL want Kilmore because the NFL as a league want to expand. They have a plan, a goal, a direction for the future. The rdfl has a gulf between the top clubs and the bottom clubs. Kilmore will never play Divvy 1 in NFL but then against niether will most Div 2/3 teams but at least if they get players back they can compete with hope.
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Changing Leagues does work, I'll use Jeparit Rainbow from Mallee football League for example last few years they struggled to win a game so end of last year they moved to Horsham and Distict abnd they ended up getting more recruits and ended up playing finals they would have folded if they wasnt allowed to leave
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I personally don't think Kilmore's issues will be solved in the NFL, but I can understand why they want to make a change. In all seriousness, a better idea would be for the Blues to go "on loan" to the NFL and review it after a season or two. That way the NFL clubs know it might not be permanent and the RDFL has a chance to stay in discussions.

Since 2000, there have been 16 senior premiers and they have come from seven clubs. Next year, two of them won't be in the comp any more (Jacana, 2000 and Kilmore, 2001).

In the three years before 2000, Gisborne won a hat-trick of flags. So as of next year, there'll only be five clubs in the comp who have won premierships in the past two decades (Romsey, Lancefield, Riddell, Woodend/Hesket and Sunbury Kangaroos). Two of those clubs (Riddell and Lancefield) have also gone into a one-year recess during my lifetime.

Let's go back in the last 40 years and look at the current RDFL clubs and how many flags they have won.

RDFL PREMIERSHIPS SINCE 1976
Riddell: 10 - 1980 (D2), 1982 (D2), 1990 (D2), 1991, 1992, 2005, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2013.
Lancefield: 4 - 1995 (D2), 1996 (D2), 2004, 2009.
Romsey: 4 - 2003, 2011, 2014, 2015.
Wallan: 4 - 1977 (D2), 1985, 1989 (D2), 1992 (D2).
Woodend/Hesket: 4 - 1978 (D2), 1983 (D2), 2002, 2007.
Kilmore: 3 - 1987 (D2), 1994 (D2), 2001.
Broadford: 2 - 1981 (D2), 1984 (D2).
Diggers Rest: 1 - 1993 (D2).
Macedon: 1 - 1976 (D2).
Sunbury Kangaroos: 1 - 2012.
Rockbank: 0.
Melton Central: 0.
Rupertswood: 0.
Note: Broadford won a HDFL flag in 1996, Rupertswood won three premierships in various VAFA divisions in 2000, 2002 and 2009.

Apart from Riddell, which wins a flag every four years, there's been a few clubs starved of success. Romsey went 28 years between its 1975 flag and its 2003 success and has been thereabouts for most years since. Diggers Rest is probably the hard luck story among all that due to the amount of finals and grand finals apparances since their division two premiership win in 1993.

FLAG DROUGHTS
Romsey - 0 years
Riddell - 2 years
Sunbury Kangaroos - 3 years
Lancefield - 6 years
Rupertswood - 6 years (VAFA)
Woodend/Hesket - 8 years
Kilmore - 14 years
Broadford - 19 years (HDFL)
Melton Central - 19 years (since inception)
Diggers Rest - 22 years
Macedon - 39 years
Rockbank - 49 years (won its seventh flag in the now defunct Bacchus Marsh Football Association in 1966). Club reformed in 1992 and yet to win a flag.

Now apart from Diggers Rest, which has been a constant challenger, most of the bottom half of that list hasn't looked like breaking its drought for some time. Yes, you can put all the responsibility on the clubs, but there's an issue here for the RDFL to address. There can only be one premier each year, but some of these clubs, particularly Rockbank, Melton Central, Kilmore, Macedon and Broadford (before this season) have largely been starved of finals footy.

I've been saying it for a while, but there needs to be serious discussion about country footy in Victoria. We seem to take it for granted that it will stay popular and maintain itself. But I don't think it will. It would be a shame to lose Kilmore permanently. Other clubs could follow to other leagues. Rockbank might go to the WRFL, for example. The RDFL needs to be preserved and allowed to continue to prosper.
 
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Andyt33 said:
Changing Leagues does work, I'll use Jeparit Rainbow from Mallee football League for example last few years they struggled to win a game so end of last year they moved to Horsham and Distict abnd they ended up getting more recruits and ended up playing finals they would have folded if they wasnt allowed to leave
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if it gets 10,20,30 people back to the club then that is the first step in the right direction. If club stays in RDFL the strong word is there wont be a side fielded, meaning 30-40 guys miss out. and then it will be very to ever get the club back in the right direction.
 
The biggest problem with the rdfl is obviously the gap between the top and the bottom sides.


The top end of the rdfl would be a top side of the edfl in its div 1 or bottom half of prem div while the bottom sides would be around the bottom half of div 2


Obviously the rdfl doesn't have enough sides to split into two divisions but the league needs to start actively recruiting clubs like Melton, Melton south, gisborne darly etc back to try get the gap lessened or perhaps they'll end up losing more clubs and be in the position it found itself in not long ago when clubs were leaving for the bfl and edfl

The league cant continue as it is with the strong clubs constantly playing finals and the weaker clubs constantly not having a chance at success
 
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Reserves_dud said:
The biggest problem with the rdfl is obviously the gap between the top and the bottom sides.


The top end of the rdfl would be a top side of the edfl in its div 1 or bottom half of prem div while the bottom sides would be around the bottom half of div 2


Obviously the rdfl doesn't have enough sides to split into two divisions but the league needs to start actively recruiting clubs like Melton, Melton south, gisborne darly etc back to try get the gap lessened or perhaps they'll end up losing more clubs and be in the position it found itself in not long ago when clubs were leaving for the bfl and edfl
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Jack_Bauer said:
Very interesting. What's the point of having a cap if teams have a different cap? I'm glad diggers and Macedon were knocked back though.

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League says "unrealistic" to have a uniform cap, given inequality of juniors across various clubs etc
 
chris_2 said:
League says "unrealistic" to have a uniform cap, given inequality of juniors across various clubs etc
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Ummm Wallan have the biggest junior program in the league!! Don't know how broadford is better off then Wallan there! this league is full of shight no wonder Kilmore want to leave
 
Jack_Bauer said:
Very interesting. What's the point of having a cap if teams have a different cap? I'm glad diggers and Macedon were knocked back though.

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Bloody oath "what's the point".
With its first year in place, the points system is lenient!!!
Each existing player is deducted 2 points that stays at a club. If clubs keep 80% of their list they should have a base of 25-30 points max.

If these clubs can't fit beneath the cap with these measures in place how is it going to work in future years.
 

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Grassroots Guru said:
Bloody oath "what's the point".
With its first year in place, the points system is lenient!!!
Each existing player is deducted 2 points that stays at a club. If clubs keep 80% of their list they should have a base of 25-30 points max.

If these clubs can't fit beneath the cap with these measures in place how is it going to work in future years.
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Next we'll see a COLA! Or maybe clubs recruiting players from town can claim a cost of travel allowance? COTA ;)

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Couple of interesting ones with the points caps. Woodend have chosen not to recruit and pay like other clubs over the last few years so why extra points. Their juniors are strong! Why Diggers felt they deserve a point reduction beats me, Christ they recruit more than anyone else and how many games had the seniors/reserves lost prior to grand final day? Wallan and Broadfprd I get because of the separation between juniors and seniors (leagues).
 
Jack_Bauer said:
Next we'll see a COLA! Or maybe clubs recruiting players from town can claim a cost of travel allowance? COTA ;)

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as they say if you want to play footy u have to travel no matter how far u have to travel even if its 2 hours rather that then having no club to follow lol
RDFL going to lose Kilmore one way or another the clubs voting to keep Kilmore will be all for nothing
 
Andyt33 said:
as they say if you want to play footy u have to travel no matter how far u have to travel even if its 2 hours rather that then having no club to follow lol
RDFL going to lose Kilmore one way or another the clubs voting to keep Kilmore will be all for nothing
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Yhea and I bet the same clubs the voted for them to stay are the same clubs that get the extra points.:cry::cry:
 
leo tolstoy said:
Couple of interesting ones with the points caps. Woodend have chosen not to recruit and pay like other clubs over the last few years so why extra points. Their juniors are strong! Why Diggers felt they deserve a point reduction beats me, Christ they recruit more than anyone else and how many games had the seniors/reserves lost prior to grand final day? Wallan and Broadfprd I get because of the separation between juniors and seniors (leagues).
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What has the separation got to do with it? It's still there senior club! I think the governing body have been taken for a ride on this one
 
A few questions for all in regards to rdfnl season 2015

Who is the leagues best field umpire?

Who is the best player in comp?(not necessarily fairest)

If any player in comp was to be picked up by an afl club who should it be?

Who is the most courageous player in comp?
Which opposing club has the best supporters?
Which club has the best facilities?

Will points system even out competition?

Do you think the bottom 4 sides of this season have much chance of making top 6 next season?
Interested in your opinions.
 
leo tolstoy said:
Couple of interesting ones with the points caps. Woodend have chosen not to recruit and pay like other clubs over the last few years so why extra points. Their juniors are strong!
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?? Woodend doesn't have any juniors, although their U18 team is decent enough.
 
It's great the league is pro active with moving forward with the points system but why is the salary cap reducing each year. Don't see the point in this at all. They want you to keep players so your points reduce but pay them less.. Plus keeping players allows you to recruit more so why reduce the payments??
I know it's going to be difficult to police but surely this is not smart when competing against other leagues..

Cheers
 
Apparently Greenvale's assistant coach Damien Zanic has been appointed Wallan's new coach.
Wasn't it supposed to be someone else?
 
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