- Sep 13, 2011
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Ive not spoken to godwin in over 3 months, ill have to email him bout this thread
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I think that's what these FNWB people intended to do, Curly, - confuse everyone! That's how they operate. Discombobulate our minds and then go for the jugular. Them's tricky wascals, all of 'em! I'll be keeping my eye on them far more closely in the future.
I'll bet they even have a secret handshake.
I think that's what these FNWB people intended to do, Curly, - confuse everyone! That's how they operate. Discombobulate our minds and then go for the jugular. Them's tricky wascals, all of 'em! I'll be keeping my eye on them far more closely in the future.
I'll bet they even have a secret handshake.
I think that's what these FNWB people intended to do, Curly, - confuse everyone! That's how they operate. Discombobulate our minds and then go for the jugular. Them's tricky wascals, all of 'em! I'll be keeping my eye on them far more closely in the future.
I'll bet they even have a secret handshake.
I was wondering why although I had a "BF" Chicago mate who I helped demolish a Transexual on the then 2008 US Election thread how come I had an urge to support the Packers instead of the Bears.
You have just reinforced why I like Arron Rodgers and the Cheese Heads over Al Bundy's team of choice.
#justsayin
We need to move forward as a club. We need change. If we continue to do what we have done in the past we will continue to get what we got. Sweet FA in relation to success.
So going on that theory we should keep changing our name until we win a flag.
Bring back Footscray and consign the Western Bulldogs experiment to the history books where it belongs.
I like it Banana, most sensible post about this subject i have seen. If our ressies play standalone in the VFL then it would be kind of cool having a Footscray in the VFL again. Not in the AFL though, sorry to those romantics that would like a Footscray in the AFL.Sorry if this has already been raised, but I cant be bothered going thru the whole thread..
Both sides of the debate have some good points, but I dont think we can go back to Footscray as much as I would like to.
Getting rid of the 97 guernsey is a step in the right direction, but has anyone bought up the idea of using the name Footscray if we end up having a stand alone VFL side?
Leave the AFL team as the Western Bulldogs, but use the name Footscray for the VFL. Would be good to see the traditional name & guernsey being used against traditional Victorian teams.
Sounds like a good compromise to me.
What would be the financial benefit ? Still waiting on an answer on that one.
You want to change back to right the wrongs of the past I get it.
The name should never have been changed without a vote I get it.
But where is the cost benefit analysis to your proposal of going back to Footscray ? When the club went to Western there was significant analysis done on what the risks were as opposed to possible benefits. That analysis AT THE TIME showed that the possible benefits out weighed the risks. You can argue that result many years later but at the time the benefits outweighed the risk. It you believe there were no benefits it doesnt mean there is no risk in going back.
So lets look at it at the moment.
Do the benefits outweigh the risk of changing back ?
I am yet to see any evidence that a change back would benefit the club financially. I am yet to see that a change back to Footscray would make the club more appealing to enticing players and sponsors to the club.
So please put together a list of financial benefits and don't just keep going on about the name changing all those years ago and why it was done or wasn't.
FACT IS IT WAS DONE !
FACT IS NOW YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO PROVE GOING BACK WOULD BENEFIT THE CLUB FINANCIALLY.
I like it Banana, most sensible post about this subject i have seen. If our ressies play standalone in the VFL then it would be kind of cool having a Footscray in the VFL again. Not in the AFL though, sorry to those romantics that would like a Footscray in the AFL.
Hey guys this is my first post on the forum, I've been a reader for about 6 months now.
I hope the club stays as the bulldogs. I'm 18 now and have supported the club since I was 5 years old just because the logo of the bulldog on the jumper caught my eye as a child and as everyone would know the team begin supporting usually will be the team for the rest of your life.
I think the bulldog is good for the club and needs to stay to attract fans(it attracted me).
Now whether we should be called Western Bulldogs or Footscray Bulldogs, personally I feel we should stay them same. I think we made the decision to change our name 15 or so years ago and we need to stick by it.
The name change was to capture the growing Western Suburbs.
Well I think that failed.
Ironically, Footscray is now the mutliculture centre of Melbourne, with Asia, Africa, Indian and many outher cultures living in that specific suburb.
Makes you wonder if they would have associated with a football team named after where they actually live?
For me I dont really care much as to whether we are Footscray or Western.
Dont think it matters that much. Eg: Arsenal is not even a suburb in London it was founded in Woolwich and moved to north london years ago. Some side have two teams: Manchester City, Mancher United, AC Milan, Inter Milan
Whats really in a name? It the in built passion of the supporters that really make the club.
What would be the financial benefit ? Still waiting on an answer on that one.
You want to change back to right the wrongs of the past I get it.
The name should never have been changed without a vote I get it.
But where is the cost benefit analysis to your proposal of going back to Footscray ? When the club went to Western there was significant analysis done on what the risks were as opposed to possible benefits. That analysis AT THE TIME showed that the possible benefits out weighed the risks. You can argue that result many years later but at the time the benefits outweighed the risk. It you believe there were no benefits it doesnt mean there is no risk in going back.
So lets look at it at the moment.
Do the benefits outweigh the risk of changing back ?
I am yet to see any evidence that a change back would benefit the club financially. I am yet to see that a change back to Footscray would make the club more appealing to enticing players and sponsors to the club.
So please put together a list of financial benefits and don't just keep going on about the name changing all those years ago and why it was done or wasn't.
FACT IS IT WAS DONE !
FACT IS NOW YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO PROVE GOING BACK WOULD BENEFIT THE CLUB FINANCIALLY.
I like it Banana, most sensible post about this subject i have seen. If our ressies play standalone in the VFL then it would be kind of cool having a Footscray in the VFL again. Not in the AFL though, sorry to those romantics that would like a Footscray in the AFL.
It was only a few years ago the team which branded itself the "Kangaroos" reverted back to North Melbourne.
I think with almost 200 entries in this thread perhaps there is still enough Footscray types like me determined enough to keep pushing this over a long period of time.
Multiple posts and multiple identities would account for about two thirds maybe, the rest opposed - a lot fewer actually in favour than you might hope.
But keep bumping it every so often, with the same arguments, creates the illusion that there's a "push".
Welcome to the forum mate! How did you come to follow the Dogs - were you in Adelaide? Just liked the jumper?
I am yet to see any evidence that the name changing to Western Bulldogs benefitted the club financially. I can't remember any footballers saying that because we changed our name to Western Bulldogs they would now join the club.
The fact is we now have a bland generic 'franchise' name that has no history, no passion.
You talk of a cost analysis. I can't imagine it making much of a difference at all. Sponsors still get exposure.
What it comes down to is what the supporters want, just like the jumper. We voted and now we're going to get the jumper we want. People that follow football teams identify with tradition and history, they like to tell others that they've followed a team their whole life as their parents did before them. The supporters are the most important factor here because we're going to indoctrinate our kids to follow this team.
I want the name changed back because I don't believe club names should ever be changed and I don't like the new name.
Let the members vote on it.