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Disagree. We scrape into the finals in 8th and get comfortably beat in an elimination final and I reckon that’s enough to suggest JL isn’t the guy, especially if this list has as much upside as people reckon it does - FWIW I believe it’s probably the most talented team we’ve ever had

JL is coming into his 6th season but some still act like he’s only in his 2nd or 3rd season. Top 6 and a prelim should be the expectation, but the goal should be top 4 and a flag. It’s been a disappointing 5 years under JL so far and at some point this club needs to take the next step, and I’m confident this team is capable of doing that in 2025.

I think as a fanbase our expectations have been too tempered, which I understand seeing as we’ve ranged from mediocre to shithouse for a long time now, but we are primed and ready to go, and as such expectations should go up.
You are having a laugh if dockers can make top 4 this season after a horrible 2 seasons. You are essentially asking for a Chris Connolly 2006 season. Unlikely but possible.

I can tolerate a home Elim final won in 2025
 
You are having a laugh if dockers can make top 4 this season after a horrible 2 seasons. You are essentially asking for a Chris Connolly 2006 season. Unlikely but possible.

I can tolerate a home Elim final won in 2025
We were literally top 2 last season until injury ****ed us at the end.
 

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We were literally top 2 last season until injury ****ed us at the end.
We ain't good enough mate. Regardless of where we finish, we will always have a difficult path for any form of success.

AFL will always favour certain Victorian clubs to get a finals spot over us dockers.

Making back to back finals or finals for 2 years in a row, should be celebrated like a flag.
 
We ain't good enough mate. Regardless of where we finish, we will always have a difficult path for any form of success.

AFL will always favour certain Victorian clubs to get a finals spot over us dockers.

Making back to back finals or finals for 2 years in a row, should be celebrated like a flag.
Gee aren't you sad sack lol
 
We ain't good enough mate. Regardless of where we finish, we will always have a difficult path for any form of success.

AFL will always favour certain Victorian clubs to get a finals spot over us dockers.

Making back to back finals or finals for 2 years in a row, should be celebrated like a flag.

This thinking is flawed and bordering on conspiratorial nonsense.

The expectation last season was finals. This year anything less than 15 wins would be poor.

Is it more difficult from WA than Victoria? Yes. Is it impossible? We have proof it isn’t.

Try perhaps to add a touch of optimism friend.
 

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