Result Reversal.

[Murraj1966]

Hypothetical thread, so keep that in mind, and just a bit of fun.

Anyway! We've all had those games you want to win more than a normal game in the H/A season, and of course finals that you would've loved to win even more, and of COURSE the Last Saturday in September which you would always love to reverse were you on the losing side. If you got 3 games in which you could reverse the outcome, making you the winning side, 1 game in the H/A season, one Final, and one Grand Final should you have made it (If not you get a second Final or H/A game your choice)

To get the ball rolling, i'll start off.

H/A Game Round 21 2007, Saints Vs West Coast at Docklands.
We were always in the game, it was goal for goal throughout the last quarter, and we had a last chance to topple the reigning premiers, but it was a 50/50 chance and the ball went down the other end and finished us. Reversing the result of THAT game would've given us a finals position in 2007, which would've been better than sitting out that year, but that loss had deep significance at the time, and to reverse that would've been fantastic.

Normal Final Preliminary Final 2005, Saints Vs Swans.
That final quarter is the stuff nightmares are made of, up at 3qtr time, looking the goods to make a Grand Final, and then seeing it slip away faster than you can say "Adam Schnieder". I've always felt that game hurt far more than last years Grand Final, as when you're in with a chance you know they gave it their all, but seeing 7 goals or so against you in a final quarter in such a game, hurt far more than being gallant in defeat.

Grand Final 1997 Grand Final, Adelaide Vs Saints.
People may think i'm covering up the pain of last year, but I reckon that 97' would've hurt Saints fans far greater than 2009. Coming from nowhere in the 90's when football was dominated by the Carey's Hird's Harvey's and Buckley's, being Minor Premiers for the first time since 65' and making the Grand Final for the first time since 1971, after the pain of the 1980's, to see it slip away thanks to Darren Jarman, would be something to again hurt more than being gallant in defeat.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Home and Away - 1993 v Essendon when Ablett kicked 14 but we still got beat by Essendon

Finals - 1997 second semi final v Adelaide. The AFL disgracefully scheduled the game v Crows to be played in Adelaide despite Geelong finishing second on ladder and Crows 5th. Then the hometown umpiring decisions on the day just made it worse.

GF - 2008 v Hawthorn. A few GF losses for Cats fans but in all of them from 1989 onwards concede Geelong were not the better team with the exception of this match.

 

[Ricmel]

Home and Away - Can't think of one.

Final - 2004 Preliminary Final against Port Adelaide (lost by 6 points at AAMI)

Grand Final - No doubt......... 1997 Grand Final.

 

[bradism]

H/A Season - Round 21 2005, Western Bulldogs vs Melbourne
After four and a half seasons of terribleness the Bulldogs started the second half of the season in terrific form, bolting from bottom four at the mid season break to within a whisker of top 8. This game, against Melbourne on a Saturday night at the G was do or die. The Bulldogs had a hand on the lead at the end of the final quarter before Melbourne got back in it, finally taking the lead moments before the siren after future-hawthorn-hall of famer Wayde Skipper infringed in a ruck contest on the elbow of the 50 and Jeff White booted home a winner.

Winning that game and getting a taste of final's experience in 2005 could have basically put us a year ahead of where we are now, letdown in 06 instead of 07, prelim exits in 07 and 08 and then finally mentally ready for finals glory in 09.

Finals - Prelim vs Adelaide in 1997
Because we had the Saints in 1997, and because the heart attacks this final caused has probably had an impact on our membership numbers. Obviously last year was cruel too but I'm working on these reversals all happening.

Grand Final - 1961
Because saying 1954 would be stupid.

 

[campbell]

only 1 game.

the 2004 gf, then we would have won 4 gf's in a row.

 

[omit]

the Kruezer cup (rd 22 2007 vs Carlton)
Carlton tanked the shit out of this game and pulled off a miraculous defeat. would love for the result to be reversed

1998 preliminary final vs North Melbourne
After handing Adelaide and St Kilda heavy defeats in the previous two finals I was really hoping we would be able to over come the might that was North Melbourne. unfortunately it wasn't to be. we couldn't take a trick that night and ended up going down by 5 goals. had we won, we would have then gone on the play Adelaide in the Grand Final

1958 Grand Final vs Collingwood
Having already beaten Collingwood twice (once in the regular season and once in the finals) Melbourne managed to **** up what would have gone down as the greatest grand final streak in history. but alas. 55, 56, 57, 58, 59 and 60 just wasn't to be

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Round 7, 2003 - Tarrant after the siren, if Chris Ladhams didn't cough up that ball or if Ben Hart didn't slip to allow Tarrant to take that uncontested mark, then we would've finished top 4 that year.

2006 PF - At half time, I thought we were there until Ben Cousins turned it on in the second half to disallow us a grand final berth. Still hurts to this day.

We're yet to lose a grand final (I don't count NAB Cups)

 

[OzBomber]

Prelim - 1999 prelim
Of course every Bomber supporter would want to reverse this. The moment Dean Wallis was tackled as he ran towards goal.

Grand Final - 2001 Essendon vs Brisbane
Would have made it back to back flags. Up by a couple of goals at half time it looked a possibility but affected by injuries, we tired and the Lions ran over us.

 

[Murraj1966]

If you can't pick a Grand Final, for any reason, you get another crack at a H/A game or Final, just wanted to point that out

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Prelim - 1999 prelim
Of course every Bomber supporter would want to reverse this. The moment Dean Wallis was tackled as he ran towards goal.

Grand Final - 2001 Essendon vs Brisbane
Would have made it back to back flags. Up by a couple of goals at half time it looked a possibility but affected by injuries, we tired and the Lions ran over us.

And to complete the trifecta and perfect the greatness of the team, R21 2000. Damn you Wallace.

Except for that whole kick up the backside factor.

 

[Pie eyed]

1977 GF Replay v North.

2002 GF.

2003 GF.


Pretty simple really.

Can I have another 5-6 picks on top of these?


OOPs didn't read the rules....

 

[Murraj1966]

You're gonna have to pick the one that hurt most, sorry

 

[Mervyn Beasley]

84,85, & 87 GF's.

Would have made it 7 in a row.

The arrogance of Hawks would be probably just way too much to bear however

 

[Murraj1966]

Only 1 Grand Final Merv sorry, If I were you, take the 87 grand Final, then you at least get 4!

 

[Leather Poisoning]

H&A I'm not so sure,

Finals game would have to be the on in 1990 that the hawks lost. We had a damn fine team that year but lost to Melbourne in Rd 22 which meant we had to play them in an elimination final the next week. I was pretty young so I can't remember the full story, just the pain. We had smashed Collingwood earlier in the year, but had lost twice to Essendon so who knows how the rest of the finals series would have gone, but a four-peat 88-91 would have been pretty damn nice. Also, instead of the pies only winning 1 flag in 50 years it would be no flags for half a century. Damn.

 

[Mervyn Beasley]

Only 1 Grand Final Merv sorry, If I were you, take the 87 grand Final, then you at least get 4!

Sorry bout that.

But geez can you imagine

I'd take the 2 H&A losses to Geelong last year

 

[Ported]

2002 qualifying final vs Collingwood. Were we a bunch of basket cases, or was it just a bad night?

2003 qualifying final vs Sydney. Yep, we're a bunch of basket cases.

I'll skip the obvious one for Port fans. Although, if it were impossible to reverse that result, but possible to reverse a winning result against North the week before, i know a lot of supporters who would gladly do so.

 

[Art Corvelay]

H&A
ANZAC Day Last year.

Final
2007 Prelim final against the Cats

Grand Final
2003. 2002 we were damn close (and robbed with that Rocca "miss"), but at least we could hold our heads high. Bloody embarrasing in 2003, and would rather we turned that game around!

 

[Pie eyed]

You're gonna have to pick the one that hurt most, sorry

I'm old and the list is long Murraj.
1966....ummmm...nah...that would be nasty.

 

[Murraj1966]

As creator of the thread, I decree that is not a valid response, although in correlation with my answer we'd have 1 flag anyway... eh easy come easy go.

 

[Roobs321]

H&A - hard to say.
Maybe Rnd22 2005, the loss to Adelaide at subiaco by 8pts, where a season of dominance, slighted by poor away performances in the closing weeks, stripped us of the minor premiership. Remember being very annoyed at that. Winning the flag suddenly seemed a bit more difficult.
We have never really just missed finals, except for inaugral 1987, so we have never hurt in that regard. And being an interstater, the derby losses arent as serious to me.

Finals
The succesion of unfair semi-final exits in the 90's, where we had really earnt a home game, ring the loudest. Being the pioneering interstater, our unjust treatment opened doors for later interstate flags. Essendon were a common villian in this regard. Also, the two nailbiting losses to collingwood in 1990 and especially 2007 really hurt. The 2007 finals series in general. At full-power, we were the only team capable of stopping geelong, but due to injuries, we wilted to port and surprisingly collingwood.
2003 and 1998 were promising years that died out in week 1 of finals. The losses to north in 1995 and especially 1997 hurt.
But the 1999 semi-final to Carlton probably takes the cake. Carlton were hammered the week prior, and while we had dawdled in finals, we had surprisingly beat the bulldogs in week 1. That loss to carlton, that should have been in WA, really hurt me the most. 1995-99 in general featured a host of lost opportunities in finals.

GF - 1991 we were a dominant H&A team with a 19-3 record, but it was our first GF against a seasoned pro, who had beat us earlier in the finals series.
2005, we werent terribly convincing on GF day, and my dad was a lifelong bloods fan, so in hindsight given we won 2006, it all worked out well for both of us.
But the 2005 GF had a 4th quarter packed with many opportunities to win. After Hunter's increasing confidence and Cousins gimme from Ablett, it looked like we would run away with it. But Kerr and Banfield missed chances on the burst, Hall got a steadying goal from the 50, and it was game on. Buchanan's final goal of the game was 7min from time, where our most traumatic chance was a ball that cleared the pack and almost deflected off Nicoski's leg for a goal. Staker, like Mickey O at the other end, was massively having the yips. That Leo Barry mark was the knife in the heart. Matera and Braun out there would have likely won it for us, while the more blind fans would have liked Hall to be suspended for the Maguire love-tap. A missed opportunity, especially since Swans 2005 werent the most convincing premiers.
But that dissapointment was a valued part of my growing up, so I dont exactly want to reverse it.

 

[WCErevival]

Final
2007 Qualifying final against Port. Was so even. We lost Cousins with a hamstring. Would have set us up for a prelim and possible 3rd GF apearance in a row.

GF
2005 against the Swans. Less than a goal at the end. Felt we had a better team throughout the season than Sydney. Ended up with a makeshift forward line with Lynch and Matera not playing.

 

[Dan26]

Finals - 1997 second semi final v Adelaide. The AFL disgracefully scheduled the game v Crows to be played in Adelaide despite Geelong finishing second on ladder and Crows 5th. Then the hometown umpiring decisions on the day just made it worse.

That's absolute rubbish.

In case your memory is lacking, Geelong LOST to the 7th placed team in the first week of the finals.

The 4 winners in the first week were seeded 1,2,3,4

The 4 losers (of which Geelong was the highest ranked) were seeded 5,6,7,8

In the second week of the finals, the 3rd highest-placed winner (3rd seed) got to play the highest-placed loser (5th seed)

Adelaide was 3rd, Geelong was 5th. Third gets to host 5th. And deservedly so.

You already got a second chance for losing. Losing to seventh I might add. Now you complain that you don't get a home ground advantage as well! How much do you want?

Just be thankful you weren't elimininated (as I believe all teams should be if they lose a finals match)

Geelong received a terriffic advantage in 1997. They got to play seventh and were still allowed to play the next week after losing to that low seeded team. The fact that you were allowed to still be playing against Adelaide the next week is something you should have been thankful for.

3 > 5.

 

[Pj.Rj.Hj]

H&A; Round 5 1996. A 1 point loss to Carlton at Princess Park which the Eagles really won but for the incompetence of a Goal umpire who awarded Greg Williams a Goal which was actually a clear rush behind by Tony Evans. The Eagles would have finished 3rd instead of 4th and trusting that they would win in the first week of the finals (which they did against Carlton by 55 points) against a Carlton side who should have finished 6th instead of 5th. West Coast would have played the loser of Brisbane (who should have finished 4th) vs Essendon (who should have finished 5th) at Subi rather than the "home" fixture at the MCG. (Those two did play in the first week of the finals but as 3rd vs 6th, Brisbane winning in a thiller and because of finishing finishing higher than West Coast because of the mistake, they got to keep their home Semi)

It was a close top 4 that year, Sydney and Brisbane had the better of the Eagles but West Coast had the better of North Melbourne.

Finals; Tough, I thought 1996 was a lost opportunity for the Eagles, but I'll go with the 1999 "Home" semifinal at the MCG vs Carlton who lost in the first week and finished 6th in the H&A below West Coast. Like 96 the Eagles failed to put the bitterness of not hosting behind them, they weren't in the right mind and Carlton flogged them and then went on the defeat Essendon in the famous Prelim. Pretty hard to see West Coast winning the flag that year but they were 1 and 1 with Essendon in 99 which included a thumping and a record low sore for the Dons. The Eagles held there own but narrowly lost to North in Sydeny that year.

Grand Final; As much as 2005 hurt especially with more scoring shots, I will say 1991. That year West Coast lost only 3 games (3 points to Carlton, 3 points to North and 10 points to Fitzroy) finishing 3 games clear and a percentage of 162.2. The Eagles were well beaten in the end by the Hawks on their home ground. I guess why I chose it is because as Geelong fans would know, it's just not right to lose the GF when you have such a dominant year compared to the rest of the comp. Hawthorn really had had enough glory by then and I've always felt that the early 90's eagles team was better than the 2 premierships they won.

 

[LiterallyNobody]

Home and Away - Been a few - 1999, round 12 I think it was. Led Hawthorn by 63 points midway through the second quarter, conceded ten straight goals in the third term, didn't kick one at all in the last and lost by 13 points.


See the thing is long-term effecting losses happen for a reason, but this one hurt simply because of being on the wrong end of a good comeback. Right on par with the doggies game in 2000 where we blew a 35 pt three quarter time lead.

In fact, **** it - I pick that one. All I wanted in 2000 was 4 points. I didn't care about tanking and draft picks... I was very pissed off after that loss.

Finals - Hmmm, I think the final I wanted to win most was the Port loss in 2004 - we would've beaten Brisbane in the big one, I KNOW it! Sure we lost to them twice in the last four weeks before that but we would've won that one!

Grand Final - I wasn't born for 13, 65 or 71 - I was still quite young in 97 and was utterly devestated - it could've made things different.

but last year, oh last year. It was the perfect year, everything else just clicked, everything went so smoothly and because we kicked our most innacurate score of the season on the big day, we ****ed it up.

it still makes me angry to this day. Being so good for the whole season, getting so close and then blowing it. Ugh. If there's a football God, he hates the **** out of St Kilda!