Club Focus Richmond 2024

[Ticky009]

Data from footywire. To check the draft order see the thread here.

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[Sirlemsip]

If i could be sure to get Lalor / Trainor then i would agree but highly doubt they will be available at picks 10 & 11 after the St kilda compo for battle kicks in

I would take Draper / FOS over 2 of the others easily

I don't think the Battle compo will be Band 1.
More likely to be Band 2 (end of 1st round).

 

[tigs2010]

I don't think the Battle compo will be Band 1.
More likely to be Band 2 (end of 1st round).

Don't know about that. Feels like media are conditioning us to the fact it will be band 1.

 

[Sirlemsip]

They thought that Karl Amon

10

Karl Amon

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

294.5

4star

D

21.0

5star

K

15.0

5star

HB

6.0

3star

M

6.0

5star

T

2.0

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

146.8

3star

was going to be Band 1 too.
Ended up being Band 3.

We tend to not overpay players, but who knows what the AFL herbs and spices will throw up as compo.

 

[Morro]

Except when the club holding the player are trying to cash in so they can rebuild, Richmond do not have the whip hand in these trades.

That's enough interwebs for you old chap

 

[richoatthedisco]

I reckon he's watched a lot more of the draft prospects than you have, and has more to compare it to from how much he's watched prospects in previous drafts too. He's not correct 100% of the time and you're welcome to disagree with him, but until I read your draft analysis thread I'm going to put more stock in his opinion than yours.

You're free to do what you like.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

You're free to do what you like.

Thank you, I was unsure until that was helpfully clarified.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Thank you, I was unsure until that was helpfully clarified.

That's a bit bitchy, isn't it? Are you okay?

 

[Johnny Bananas]

That's a bit bitchy, isn't it? Are you okay?

Not really, no. But at least the work day is almost over.

 

[The Goon]

A grader IMO is top 10% at your position in the comp, basically All Australian. Neither Bolton or Rioli will go close to that this year. Bolton at his best could be considered A grade, Rioli not even close.

For comparison of players who are looking for new homes this year.. who is the better player with more upside out of Rioli and Lukosious., who is 3 years younger than Rioli. I suspect every person that doesn’t support Richmond has Lukosious well ahead, Gold Coast will be lucky to get a late first for him.

Bailey Smith I rate highly, is 2 years younger than Bolton and Cats will likely get him for their first pick. Izak Rankine, a similar player to Bolton but was only 22 at the time went to Adelaide for pick 5 and a future 4th, this probably seems about the right make for Bolton.

Firstly All Australian is 22 players, 40 if you include the original selection. What are there, 700 odd AFL players? Thats 3% for All Australian, just over 5% for the extended list. It's also, as I'm sure you know, a stupid way to judge a players worth.

Personally for me A grade is top 15-20%, and Rioli fits comfortably in that category. That aside I think Boltons worth about pick 3, but I value pick 3 higher than 2x mid first round picks (even though the points may be greater). IMO people tend to overvalue picks, especially in comparison to proven players.

Out of interest. How many A, B, C and D grade players on the Carlton list, and who are they?

 

[richoatthedisco]

Not really, no. But at least the work day is almost over.

I hope you feel better soon, friend. Sincerely.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Firstly All Australian is 22 players, 40 if you include the original selection. What are there, 700 odd AFL players? Thats 3% for All Australian, just over 5% for the extended list. It's also, as I'm sure you know, a stupid way to judge a players worth.

Personally for me A grade is top 15-20%, and Rioli fits comfortably in that category. That aside I think Boltons worth about pick 3, but I value pick 3 higher than 2x mid first round picks (even though the points may be greater). IMO people tend to overvalue picks, especially in comparison to proven players.

Out of interest. How many A, B, C and D grade players on the Carlton list, and who are they?

You asked the question so I will answer
A Grade - Cripps, Curnow, McKay, Weitering — McKay is the controversial one here but IMO he is the best true CHF in comp.
B Grade - Walsh (potential to be A but not this year), Newman, Saad, Cerra, TDK
C Grade- Kennedy, Marchbank, Acres, Hewett, McGovern

Everyone else would be D or E.

 

[The Goon]

You asked the question so I will answer
A Grade - Cripps, Curnow, McKay, Weitering — McKay is the controversial one here but IMO he is the best true CHF in comp.
B Grade - Walsh (potential to be A but not this year), Newman, Saad, Cerra, TDK
C Grade- Kennedy, Marchbank, Acres, Hewett, McGovern

Everyone else would be D or E.

Yeah, reckon your grading is way too tough on the B's and C's in particular. Even with the A's you're definition is basically elite or close too. Do you have a criteria or is it just 'feel'? No judgement BTW, just interested.

 

[Frank Grimes]

We tend to not overpay players, but who knows what the AFL herbs and spices will throw up as compo.

Vickery says Hi.

 

[ItsAllAboutMe]

Yeah, reckon your grading is way too tough on the B's and C's in particular. Even with the A's you're definition is basically elite or close too. Do you have a criteria or is it just 'feel'? No judgement BTW, just interested.

Yeah no criteria just a general viewpoint that most media plaudits and fans over rate players, especially their own..

Elite by definition ‘a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group’

This definition should be left for the complete top tier Daicos, Cripps, Bont, Gawn, Neale, obviously Dusty & Dangerfield in a previous years.

 

[Sirlemsip]

Vickers says Hi.

Please, don't remind me.

 

[THE_GUN]

Vickery says Hi.

Please, don't remind me.

What if we say Shai Bolton

 

[nut]

I think gold coast might say pick 5 is off the table, or they will say ok and do
Rioli, 2 3rd rounders for 5,2025r3.

Lombard will look good in a Richmond jumper

 

[THE_GUN]

Welcome to Richmond
#6 , #9 , #10 , #15 , #16

 

[My_Username]

Welcome to Richmond
#6 , #9 , #10 , #15 , #16

No #1?

It's the traditional 'prize' of the biggest loser after all.

 

[THE_GUN]

No #1?

It's the traditional 'prize' of the biggest loser after all.

#1 & #21 are prized picks for the upside down premiers
The picks i quoted are our bounty for our players that we are cashing in

 

[My_Username]

#1 & #21 are prized picks for the upside down premiers
The picks i quoted are our bounty for our players that we are cashing in

Will you have any players left?

 

[THE_GUN]

Will you have any players left?

Yes we will have a full list for the start of next season

 

[HTPunter]

More I think of it, more I’m a strong believer in Richmond should cash in on Lynch while he has a modicum of value left. They’re losing how many millions in salary with Dusty, Baker, Bolton, Graham, Rioli, Grimes, so they can get a sweet deal in terms of another pick if they continue to pay him.

Lynch is moving into NicNat/Shuey territory where of course it’d be nice to have him out there teaching the kids, but he can’t get on the park. So I genuinely think they should sell him and pay his salary as long as it gives them a solid pick.

He’s not a Nankervis type who plays most weeks anymore.

 

[tigs2010]

More I think of it, more I’m a strong believer in Richmond should cash in on Lynch while he has a modicum of value left. They’re losing how many millions in salary with Dusty, Baker, Bolton, Graham, Rioli, Grimes, so they can get a sweet deal in terms of another pick if they continue to pay him.

Lynch is moving into NicNat/Shuey territory where of course it’d be nice to have him out there teaching the kids, but he can’t get on the park. So I genuinely think they should sell him and pay his salary as long as it gives them a solid pick.

He’s not a Nankervis type who plays most weeks anymore.

Who would take him? Pies and Dees the ones that could use him but think Melbourne ship has sailed. What's a solid pick?

 

[tiger_tough]

I was in favor of trading Lynch a few months back. Not now that Rioli, BOLTON, Graham and Baker all look like leaving. Don't want to go full North.