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Interesting. Done and dusted before any input from the new coach. However probably the right decision considering the cull that is already likely this year.
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Richmond commits to Matthew Richardson for 2010
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Interesting. Done and dusted before any input from the new coach. However probably the right decision considering the cull that is already likely this year.
Barnzy
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I will now support the decision even if I was against it. However...
I don't like it, I don't like it all PHX. Something tells me this would've been Hardwick too. What if this guy that wants to "clean the decks" is the best coaching candidate but has/will be rejected because of the fact he might want to move Richo on but CC and co don't want that to happen?
I don't like it, I don't like it all PHX. Something tells me this would've been Hardwick too. What if this guy that wants to "clean the decks" is the best coaching candidate but has/will be rejected because of the fact he might want to move Richo on but CC and co don't want that to happen?
I am 99% sure it would have been Hardwick, I don't like him for it. Sure if im wrong and it was one of the others then I apoligise. But there were rumours doing the rounds he would let big Rick go... Great news he is going on.
Reading that article, does anyone else think that Rawlings has the coaching position in the bag ?
For a guy that is caretaker coach and going through the "process" he seems to have alot to say regarding matters beyond 2009.
For a guy that is caretaker coach and going through the "process" he seems to have alot to say regarding matters beyond 2009.
Barnzy
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Yeah, he has sure been commenting a lot lately on 2010 matters when he supposedly he shouldn't know where he stands come 2010. For example, discussing Richo's and Cousins positions on the list. For example, discussing Richo and Cousins positions on the list for next year.
PHX
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I'm not sure if we'll keep him but where I see room for Richo either forward or on the wing in our best 22, I do not see clear room for Brown in the forward line any more considering the players coming though, and to see him play on and then be forced to play at Coburg for most of the year would not be right.
That said, out of that list Brown is the one that has the most left to offer, by a long way.
I just sometimes wonder how much lip service our club gives us, I mean it was only a week ago that Jade said that Richo had to prove he wouldnt spit the dummy (so to speak) to get another year.
Do you think when Jade said this he meant it ? Or do you think his wife told him to give her brother another contract or dont bother coming to bed for a year lol
I might be reading too much into it, I hope I am, I understand why they would get Jade's opinion on list management but when that list management is regarding his brother in law I think there's a slight conflict of interest where jade should possibly keep away from that decision.
I love the big fella and think he is good enough if fit to go another season but sometimes I wish the club would just keep it behind closed doors for once, why do we need to know before a new coach is appointed? Today we have heard both Cousins and Richo are likely to continue next season, seems strange these decisions are being made without us having a coach for 2010 unless they have already made their minds up.
Its clear the board are making it clear to the incoming coach that there are some non-negotiables involved in the job. Thats Richo and Cuz are going on in 2010 for Richmond deal with it or withdraw from the process. I personally am happy with the decision.
Kane Johnson, Troy Simmonds, Kayne Pettifer, Joel Bowden have had there papers stamped surely. We then have a big line in Schulz, JON, King, Connors, Hughes, Raines, Polak, Brown, McMahon, Coughlan, Thomson where I wouldn't be shocked if any of those were given there marching orders.
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Hope this doesn't come back to bite them on the arse. Richo will be 35 before the start of next year and there are real concerns about whether his body can carry him through another year. Would be a bigger shame for him to go on and then break down like Johnson did at the start of this season and have to retire a broken man. Yes I know its the same this year, but you can just see the reaction if this does happen, the cynics will be saying Richo pushed for 1 more season for another shot at glory and failed.
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I can't believe some people think Cogs will be gone at the end of the year. Surely there is alot more infront of him on the list.
The way people on here carry on about delistings we won't have a team for 2010.
Either way, I'm glad to hear about Richo and I hope everything goes well for Cotch and he has a Full pre-season for next year.
The way people on here carry on about delistings we won't have a team for 2010.
Either way, I'm glad to hear about Richo and I hope everything goes well for Cotch and he has a Full pre-season for next year.
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However, at the same time how many players do you think are showing their years and are struggling to keep up or simply stuck at Coburg unable to step up to AFL, and should go before Richo?
I reckon I could get 10 minimum. Maybe if the bottom of our list was in better shape I'd consider this from a different angle, but we have plenty of players with less to offer in the future and no scope of improvement than Richo and he's got value as a leader at the club over most others so I'm more than happy to see the big fella go another year and not give a stuff what the cynics may say.
It's shit like this quote below that convinces me that this club has no idea.
"The decision on Richardson's future, before a coaching appointment is made, will be widely debated.
It is understood some coaching candidates undertaking the first round of talks had asked the club about Richo's position, with at least one indicating he would prefer to "clear the decks" if appointed.
The Tigers' decision-making process allows the coach just one vote and it's understood club powerbrokers were overwhelmingly in favour of Richardson playing an 18th season."
The coach gets one vote??? Gimme a friggen break. What a basket case. The tail wagging the dog again.
Bustling Barry
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Maybe, in house the coach has been decided on?? It would surprise me if the person leading our team next year would not have a say on the list for 2010 and beyond..
Maybe and just maybe the RFC are actually keeping info 'in house'??? (for a change)
Maybe and just maybe the RFC are actually keeping info 'in house'??? (for a change)
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Injury aside Richo is still despite his age one of our top 3 players.
Next year he still will be better than player #34 to #42 if we go through with the cull.
If he goes down again next year he,ll be put on the LTIL and a Rookie will be promoted.
Its a no brainer really.
Next year he still will be better than player #34 to #42 if we go through with the cull.
If he goes down again next year he,ll be put on the LTIL and a Rookie will be promoted.
Its a no brainer really.
Barnzy
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Yeah I'm not a fan of the decision and I think he should've done an Adam Simpson and know when his time is up however I'm more of a process and how the decision was made kind of man. Because if that is being conducted right then normally if you have the right people make the call (debatable) then you're going to come to the right result.
This reeks of Rawlings already being appointed and they're just appearing to go through the process to the public. It would be so Richmond....why does the new coach only get 1 vote on player management too? Can't even get to choose what players he will have at his disposal. I hope you know what you're doing Richmond is all I can say, I feel they have let themselves down after being a circus to the public for a long time then they decide to do things right for a change and select a very intensive coaching process then they rush into list management decisions without the new coach being appointed. Why couldn't this wait until then so they didn't have all and sundry questioning these moves, you wonder what goes through their minds sometimes.
Roachy8
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I really dont have any problems with us keeping Richo on for 12 more months.
Let's face it our big man stocks are thinning out by the minute:
Simmo - surely gone
Polak - almost certainly gone
Cleve- should be gone
Sarge - should be gone
Gourdis - ??? Will he make it?
Putt - ??? Will he make it?
A 35yo Richo still offers us more in 2010 than most if not all of that bunch.
At least now he can get the knee scraped out & concentrate on a big pre-season for his last year of footy.
I think we sometimes pigeon-hole players too much... just because most guys can't contribute big time when in their mid 30's it does not mean all need to be pensioned off at the same time.
The comp always throws up exceptions to the accepted rules.
Look at what Buddy did as a 20/21 year old
Chris Judd wins a Brownlow at 21 (wasn't it)
Joel Selwood plays like a 25yo veteran at 19 years old
Robert Harvey has a great final year at 35
It is highly likely that in Richo we have a once in a 30-50 year AFL athlete & he will set the benchmark in the future for "when a big man" can still be a major force in the competition.
Let's just enjoy the ride...
Let's face it our big man stocks are thinning out by the minute:
Simmo - surely gone
Polak - almost certainly gone
Cleve- should be gone
Sarge - should be gone
Gourdis - ??? Will he make it?
Putt - ??? Will he make it?
A 35yo Richo still offers us more in 2010 than most if not all of that bunch.
At least now he can get the knee scraped out & concentrate on a big pre-season for his last year of footy.
I think we sometimes pigeon-hole players too much... just because most guys can't contribute big time when in their mid 30's it does not mean all need to be pensioned off at the same time.
The comp always throws up exceptions to the accepted rules.
Look at what Buddy did as a 20/21 year old
Chris Judd wins a Brownlow at 21 (wasn't it)
Joel Selwood plays like a 25yo veteran at 19 years old
Robert Harvey has a great final year at 35
It is highly likely that in Richo we have a once in a 30-50 year AFL athlete & he will set the benchmark in the future for "when a big man" can still be a major force in the competition.
Let's just enjoy the ride...
PHX
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Plenty of clubs have list managers. This isn't a massive or a new issue.
You have to have strong internal control in a club over a relative newcomer. As he's just that, a novice. Then as he gains experience and knowledge of the playing group he has on his hands to develop, they can loosen control.
You have to have strong internal control in a club over a relative newcomer. As he's just that, a novice. Then as he gains experience and knowledge of the playing group he has on his hands to develop, they can loosen control.
