Preview Richmond vs dummas new toys saturday 9th March 4:20 pm

[Grrr]

Did anyone actually watch the Pies waltz the ball out of defence for 3/4 of the game last week? Why on earth would we bring in Cumberland who has clearly not yet been able to grasp the vital elements of team defence to defend oppo ball movement?

I’m not saying MRJ should be playing (I don’t think he should based on his pre season), but I am saying you don’t need to be Einstein to know why Cumberland isn’t and I wish people would stop harping on about it.

The only reason Cumberland isn’t playing is because of Cumberland.

I’m happy to see Banks on a wing.. he’s the future.


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Really, I could have sworn MRJ was playing forward much of those 3 quarters, plus 2 raw key forwards, plus 3 or 4 others going through there. But it was Cumberland's fault, even though the commentators constantly mentioned him as providing good pressure.

I don't care that he isn't playing, good to see Campbell and Banks backed in, but give Cumberland a break, he was one of 6 forwards who played forward. Besides Collingwood played slingshot footy in the first half, that is how they train and play, but mainly on the back of having complete dominance in the ruck and some mids/forwards who tore us apart.

 

[Grrr]

I love how 3 coaches (if you include Mini) overlook Cumberland and people still think he's a gun and the Messiah.

Nobody is saying he's a gun and a messiah, in general just standing up against the constant criticism. His last half last week was described as decent, or fair or passable or whatever.

He does however provide goal scoring ability, something we haven't had for years as a general forward. Fritsch wouldn't get a game at Richmond by many posters on here.

 

[sante]

Nobody is saying he's a gun and a messiah, in general just standing up against the constant criticism. His last half last week was described as decent, or fair or passable or whatever.

He does however provide goal scoring ability, something we haven't had for years as a general forward. Fritsch wouldn't get a game at Richmond by many posters on here.

Why aren’t the coaches picking him?

 

[tiger_tough]

why are we playing ryan

He's gonna kick a bag

 

[tiger_tough]

Geez no wonder we were so shit. That's a horrific lineup

 

[Karp3_dm]

why are we playing ryan

Why what’s the issue? Will be perfect conditions for him…

28, 80% humidity windy and Rain…. Should clunk 8 contested marks and kick 5 no worries

 

[Grrr]

Why aren’t the coaches picking him?

Let's face it Hardwick didn't coach well last year and Mini not much better. Our forward line was easily the worst in the league because it was all about defence. Pickett, Mansell, MRJ, kicked 21 goals between them from 48 games. Cumberland was not the player he was in '22, but he should have been backed in more, even just as a goal scoring option, ala Bailey Fritsch.

Yze, too early to tell. Campbell and Green must have impressed, they look like natural forwards. Green kicked 4 just two weeks ago and yet Campbell gets the nod. Good give them a go.

Cumberland will get his chance not too far down the track, but the season hasn't even begun. Maybe they want him to run into form, maybe they want to see 4 Q's of footy, when he gets a chance. He can't live off '22's efforts or half a very good practice match and fair enough. It is the same reason Dow wasn't played for nearly 18 months, the talent is there, but the game needs working on, that is what the VFL is for. Let him come in in really good form.

 

[Groupie_]

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Geez no wonder we were so s**t. That's a horrific lineup

yeah not like theres any generational talents on that list

 

[Morro]

My only issue is Ryan makes us too tall in what will be a game played mostly at ground level given the conditions. Balta and Kosi can give a chop out but I guess that does change the structure Yze is looking for.

 

[SplintWhisky]

Have a feeling we are 1 back short. Mcintosh could probably be replaced by Brown, and have Banks, Pickett and Ross as the wingers.

 

[prodigy1311]

Maurice will kick 6

more like he'll get caught HTB 6 times

 

[tiger_tough]

yeah not like theres any generational talents on that list

Yeah but so many spuds. Hislop, Connnors, Thomson, Farmer, Relton, Nason, Vickery. FMD.

 

[mauricerioli]

How many emergencies do we usually take interstate?

 

[tora tora tora]

My only issue is Ryan makes us too tall in what will be a game played mostly at ground level given the conditions. Balta and Kosi can give a chop out but I guess that does change the structure Yze is looking for.

Yze hasn't opted to Pulling Balta or Kosi,out of their position to ruck. Nais could ruck more I guess.

70% TOG for Naism, 58% TOG for Ryan. Is he coming off the bench for rucks & KPFs?

Ryan is from QLD isn't he? He Should be used to the conditions. There's been f all rain and its windy .
As good as it gets.

You still live on the Goldie?

 

[Bojangles17]

You can’t argue cumbo needs to work on certain parts of his game when we have half a dozen spuds trotting around who have plenty of deficiencies.

Yerrrrrp

 

[Bojangles17]

why are we playing ryan

Prob my biggest surprise , clearly wants a sec ruck option ,,, reckon he might surprise everyone , bookmark this

 

[AstuteTiger]

Cumbo hasn’t been picked by multiple coaching groups - led by Dimma, Mini and now Yze.

I never said Cumbo doesn’t chase and tackle, I agree that he does. But he obviously doesn’t know how to participate in the defensive structures that are essential in modern footy.

This reminds me of the ‘pick Stack’ ‘pick Stack’ brigade who wouldn’t let it go in 2022… I assume you were one of them. And then he’s delisted and no other club goes near him.

Just accept Cumberland is not a valuable player just at the moment. He can be and hopefully he will be one day.


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Huh multiple coaches you mean one right? mini was a dimma clone so much so hes now gone, cause he came up with nothing new to the table.

How do you know he doesnt you're basing your comment on 2023. From what ive read re ceasars and the moles training reports he and sonsie were doing very well.

Stack? dont assume its neither here or there in terms of this weeks selection.

Cumbo not valuable but junior is? Also, pickett has been replaced on the starting wing by a guy who is still finding his way, still gotta win his own ball Banks. Mature head on his shoulders banks but one area the coaches have been working on with him is to win his own ball. He's had no impact in the preseason but is still picked. So the question is why is picket still in the team? 3 wingers.

Ross likely to be the sub. Came on in the last v pies and did well with 7 disposals.

Kosi has done sweet **** all but hey guess hes to valuable to the team dynamics might as well just plunk miller or ryan there.

 

[Morro]

Yze hasn't opted to Pulling Balta or Kosi,out of their position to ruck. Nais could ruck more I guess.

70% TOG for Naism, 58% TOG for Ryan. Is he coming off the bench for rucks & KPFs?

Ryan is from QLD isn't he? He Should be used to the conditions. There's been f all rain and its windy .
As good as it gets.

You still live on the Goldie?

You are right he hasnt, but he said he liked Balta playing 2nd ruck only a few weeks ago, maybe thats when Lynch returns?

Yeah bro, windy as all **** today but plenty of rain being predicted.

 

[AstuteTiger]

You have an expected standard for Cumbo….what did Ryan…Grimes…MRJ do over pre season to warrant selection?

Logic is not welcome here There is no come back for this post well said, you can even add kosi and banks if we harping on that cumbo must meet some higher criteria to warrant selection.

 

[peejay]

where is Judson ?

 

[Vassp]

Noah's biggest fans when you mention that he needs to improve on certain aspects of his game before he gets selected

that would be me .......... Rioli has to improve far more than cumbo IMO.

 

[TigerImposter]

My first impression is that we’ve picked a side to win this , and we def can , it’s a very winnable game. If we don’t get the result that we’ve aimed for there’s an easy 3 changes from this side , go and get it done tigers

Have we though Bo? Our BL isn’t the problem and it really hasn’t been for the past seasons . It’s our slow midfielders who can’t cover the ground and our BL is then put under the pressure. Our team MC is looking at the symptoms and not the cause. Our FL also suffers bc of this as the opposition defenders combined with their mids waltz the ball out easily. We are just too slow in the guts. I feel they picked this side based on the conditions and I hope it works.

 

[RobsJourney]

dude hes named in the team

They named 23, and the one I checked on AFL he was 23rd. But actually yeah I think it'll be Ross who is sub.

 

[RobsJourney]

Have a feeling we are 1 back short. Mcintosh could probably be replaced by Brown, and have Banks, Pickett and Ross as the wingers.

Grimes, Young, Broad
Vlastuin, Gibcus, Short
7th: D Rioli

That's standard, I think any more would be too many.

 

[bc27]

What did MRJ do in any of the practise matches to warrant selection round 1?!?