pretty sure Riewoldt got up on his own to kick the goal.
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Riewoldt Favoured by Umps??? You're kidding me.
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pretty sure Riewoldt got up on his own to kick the goal.
Jeez, there's no way that Lakes bump was anywhere near cowardly.
He's not favoured at all. No big forwards are. It's actually as if there are three sets of rules: forwards, mids, defenders.
I think Kurt Tippett might be pretty rapidly overtaking Riewoldt in these stakes, but I agree with you.
I think you'll find that most players who have a big, strong, fast key forward (like Tippett, Brown, Franklin, Riewoldt) feel like these type of guys even from other teams don't really get the frees that they're entitled too; where as sides without a real, strong key forward probably don't.
EDIT - That free kick was bullshit though; the Umpires should've let Kosi sit Lake on his arse as payback, and it would've been all square - no free needed.
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Why is being a soft crab who goes to ground an advantage? If Lake bumps Brown with the same force that riewoldt received and doesn't fall over, cause lets face it he wouldn't, then why is that not a free kick as well? It's unfair that because he is weaker than his opponent he gets the advantage when it's supposed to be a full contact sport that prides itself on its toughness. Hell they even did an ad on tv proclaiming this very thing shouting at everyone who will listen that its the toughest, fastest and bestest sport ever then turn around and give this reindeer a free ride to the grand final.
I'd be happy if Roo got only half the soft frees given out to either Sellwood or GAblettjr.
GAblettjr given a free after he dragged a pies player down when he fell to the ground was typical of whats been handed out to him and his head ducking mate all year.
GAblettjr given a free after he dragged a pies player down when he fell to the ground was typical of whats been handed out to him and his head ducking mate all year.
Are you new to the game? Newcomers like yourself who think Reiwoldt was "taken out" are proof that the AFL's attempts to soften the game (to appeal to potential player's mummy) is working.
Pathetic!
It was a soft free kick - but Lake is a moron. Having been warned by the umpire after he had taken out Riewoldt 80 metres off the ball at least twice that if he did that again it would be a free kick - leaves his man at the beginning of the second half when the umpires is watching intently - and deliberately take out Riewoldt.
Riewoldt undoubtly played it up a bit and it WORKED. Lake is a moron - a stupid foolish moron who by his stupidity and lack of big game nous cost his team a goal and a possible chance for a Grand Final berth.
It was a soft free kick - just like interchange fress are soft - or a touch in the back with a hand is soft - ans a whole bunch of ither frees are soft - but it was a free and Lake should be roundly condemned for his abject stupidity.
Riewoldt undoubtly played it up a bit and it WORKED. Lake is a moron - a stupid foolish moron who by his stupidity and lack of big game nous cost his team a goal and a possible chance for a Grand Final berth.
It was a soft free kick - just like interchange fress are soft - or a touch in the back with a hand is soft - ans a whole bunch of ither frees are soft - but it was a free and Lake should be roundly condemned for his abject stupidity.
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Franklin wrestles with his opponent and tries to push them out of the contest.
Riewoldt leads his opponent to the ball and gets his arms chopped.
Can't wrap your head around it, huh?
Worst free kick I have EVER seen.
Yet nothing said about it. Funny that.
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Elbowing someone in the stomach, who's running past and not looking at you, certainly doesn't require bravery. Cowardly or not, cheap shot.
The umpire paid it because he had just told Lake it would be a free kick if he interfered with him behind play again. Only stupid person in the equation is Lake. Rocks for brains.
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Riewoldt is one of the fairest players in the competition and rarely gives away a blatant free kick because he doesn't have the intention hence his low frees against stats. The frees he gives away are usually clumsy.
Others have already stated that he isn't a body contact player, he's a leading forward that can jump higher than his opponents and is generally quicker hence his frees for stats. Oppossition players continually intend to hit or infringe Riewoldt illegally.
The umpires have clearly stated that they won't tolerate the games stars being treated unfairly off the ball. Brian Lake knocked Riewoldt over a number of times before a free was even paid. I'm sure that he would have been warned but continued to do so anyway. Who's to blame? Not the umpires or Riewoldt, so you blokes do the math.
Give the guy a break, he's one of the fairest players getting around that always plays the ball and not the opponent like Brian Lake.
Others have already stated that he isn't a body contact player, he's a leading forward that can jump higher than his opponents and is generally quicker hence his frees for stats. Oppossition players continually intend to hit or infringe Riewoldt illegally.
The umpires have clearly stated that they won't tolerate the games stars being treated unfairly off the ball. Brian Lake knocked Riewoldt over a number of times before a free was even paid. I'm sure that he would have been warned but continued to do so anyway. Who's to blame? Not the umpires or Riewoldt, so you blokes do the math.
Give the guy a break, he's one of the fairest players getting around that always plays the ball and not the opponent like Brian Lake.
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This.
Though those who have it hardwired in their brains that Riewoldt is favoured will simply sweep these points aside.
About as intelligent as Brian Lake.
i kind of agree with both sides of this thread.
I thought a) the free kick after halftime was a complete joke. no matter how many times Lake was warned not to take out Riewoldt, no one could think that a tiny nudge would draw a free kick. Why? Cause a nudge like that ISN'T taking someone out. It's what happens before every half in every game. It's just making contact, as much as anything. And the fact that riewoldt dived like that is a black mark against his name, i think.
b) lake is a bloody idiot. Yes, it was a ridiculous decision. Yes Riewoldt was a soft woman. But what's the point? You simply have to expect your opponent to be a pansy and dive in AFL, cause it happens all the time. So if you're on notice, don't touch them unless you have to. Potential gain? Zero. Potential loss? A goal. You goose.
c) but that free kick was very much an isolated example. Riewoldt earns almost all his free kicks (and plenty he doesn't get). I completely agree with the Sainst supporters who say that his style of play draws free kicks. This is the nature of 2009 footy - the rules favour forwards who lead and play in front. Riewoldt is the best forward in the league at that by a very long way. So he draws the most free kicks by a very long way. Makes sense to me.
d) While i cannot tell you how much i loathed both the umpire who gave that free kick after half time and riewoldt for diving (he won my respect back in the 4th, though. awesome performance) let's not lose sight of why the dogs lost. The saints fans are right. We didn't take our opportunities. Simple as that. We only have ourselves to blame.
I thought a) the free kick after halftime was a complete joke. no matter how many times Lake was warned not to take out Riewoldt, no one could think that a tiny nudge would draw a free kick. Why? Cause a nudge like that ISN'T taking someone out. It's what happens before every half in every game. It's just making contact, as much as anything. And the fact that riewoldt dived like that is a black mark against his name, i think.
b) lake is a bloody idiot. Yes, it was a ridiculous decision. Yes Riewoldt was a soft woman. But what's the point? You simply have to expect your opponent to be a pansy and dive in AFL, cause it happens all the time. So if you're on notice, don't touch them unless you have to. Potential gain? Zero. Potential loss? A goal. You goose.
c) but that free kick was very much an isolated example. Riewoldt earns almost all his free kicks (and plenty he doesn't get). I completely agree with the Sainst supporters who say that his style of play draws free kicks. This is the nature of 2009 footy - the rules favour forwards who lead and play in front. Riewoldt is the best forward in the league at that by a very long way. So he draws the most free kicks by a very long way. Makes sense to me.
d) While i cannot tell you how much i loathed both the umpire who gave that free kick after half time and riewoldt for diving (he won my respect back in the 4th, though. awesome performance) let's not lose sight of why the dogs lost. The saints fans are right. We didn't take our opportunities. Simple as that. We only have ourselves to blame.
Though Lake was warned several times DURING the game on this.
That he persisted makes him stupid.
I would also note that Zac had a similar free given against him when we played the Pies and no one was in upfroar about that.
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great post the dogs kennel.These type of frees shit me no end.
The nature of the rules encourage players to play up contact. How many times do you see a player take a dive during a little push and shove trying to milk a free kick.
I understand Bulldog supporters frustrations. It was the most tense heart wrenching game imaginable - a PF where neither team could get a roll on or dominate - where goals where like gold - shit where a flippin possession was like gold - and the umpire has such an influence. If it was against Zac on a Dog forward i would have been filthy (at the lame arsed rule and at Zac BTW).
All the season - all the finals - all the years of heartbreak (for both sets of fans) and a bloody free kick like that.
Would only have been worse if it was that idiotic interchange rule.
The nature of the rules encourage players to play up contact. How many times do you see a player take a dive during a little push and shove trying to milk a free kick.
I understand Bulldog supporters frustrations. It was the most tense heart wrenching game imaginable - a PF where neither team could get a roll on or dominate - where goals where like gold - shit where a flippin possession was like gold - and the umpire has such an influence. If it was against Zac on a Dog forward i would have been filthy (at the lame arsed rule and at Zac BTW).
All the season - all the finals - all the years of heartbreak (for both sets of fans) and a bloody free kick like that.
Would only have been worse if it was that idiotic interchange rule.
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If Buddy went for the ball instead of wrestling with his opponent, he might not have such a shameful free kick ratio.
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im sick of this st nick man love from st kilda supporters i really hope the cats win so the pity of your club only having one premiership countinues and extends for years to come please geelong dont let me down
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Can't buy a comma, huh?
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So Reiwoldt is never 1 on 1 with an opponent? Doesn't wrestle at all aye?
And Buddy ALWAYS wrestles? Never leads at all? Same with Hall/Johnson..etc.
All the saints fans trying to spin crap out of their asses is hilarious.
Even funnier when they, in the same thread, accuse Ablett/Selwood for being favoured.
So what if he is favoured? He's still a gun player. **** i WISH Buddy was favoured.. it's not necessarily a bad thing!
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lol im sorry , i didnt think an internet forum had to be up to a certain standered on grammer for you.
Maybe you can read this next saturday night too mask your pain and remember the one time you got one on a bombers supporter.
Maybe you can track down a dvd of 1966 if it exists and watch it haha
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