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LOL. I remember the fancied Saints making a trip to Brisbane. Wasn't too long into the match before Reiwoldt started to cry. 
Oh, and yeah... Brown for me.
Oh, and yeah... Brown for me.
Riewoldt or Brown
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You dont have as much impact running around up on the wing gathering dream team points.
It's no surprise Riewoldts stats suggest he is 'better'. Brown struggled with injury for the early part of his career, and earnt himself the occasional suspension. Is this the inconsistency people are talking about?
Since 2007 however, I think it's pretty obvious who has contributed more. And the 10 games Brown did manage in 2006 (where he finally avoided injury/suspension for a while) were far better than any 10 game period Roo has put together to date.
Put simply- since 2007 Brown has offered more, and at his best, Brown is simply better, IMO. However for contribution over their respective careers, I can understand the arguments for Roo being in front.
Oh, and the use of DT points was pretty funny, I laughed.
Since 2007 however, I think it's pretty obvious who has contributed more. And the 10 games Brown did manage in 2006 (where he finally avoided injury/suspension for a while) were far better than any 10 game period Roo has put together to date.
Put simply- since 2007 Brown has offered more, and at his best, Brown is simply better, IMO. However for contribution over their respective careers, I can understand the arguments for Roo being in front.
Oh, and the use of DT points was pretty funny, I laughed.
Both great champions.
Can't really split them and this topic is going to be talked about a lot this year.
Only thing I would say is that if my team was 5 points down and the siren has gone I'd rather have the ball in Browns hands kicking to win the match rather than Reiwoldts.
Can't really split them and this topic is going to be talked about a lot this year.
Only thing I would say is that if my team was 5 points down and the siren has gone I'd rather have the ball in Browns hands kicking to win the match rather than Reiwoldts.
Ok BF would not have been the same without another bloody thread about either one of these 2 players. I am just atm hoping Buddy has an absolute blinder on Monday as then that would mean a week of Brown vs Roo vs Buddy. This would then bring the entire BF community in on the discussion as Hawks are everyone's love to hate side on BF and everyone has an opinion about them.
Just my opinion but I would take Roo every day of the week ahead of Brown. Brown is a great player but Roo just has more strings to his bow.
Just my opinion but I would take Roo every day of the week ahead of Brown. Brown is a great player but Roo just has more strings to his bow.
whichone
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Instead of this obsession with Brown > or < Riewoldt, can we not settle for Brown ≈ Riewoldt? Both great players.
mpal6
Norm Smith Medallist
Browny plays gladiator style footy. Loves the wrestle, body contact, the physical stuff. Even after coping a lot from opponents he will stand up, stare the opponent in the eye and intimidate them.
Riewoldt plays smart footy. When opponents try to wrestle him, he'll try to fight back to some extent - when things go beyond his liking, he'll milk it and get a free. I wouldn't blame him for doing that, he is out there to play footy. Opponents try to rattle him with physical stuff, he hurts them on scoreboard. Gladiator style footy is not his strength and he puts his best asset to use, which is his incredible work rate.
Of course I love Browny. I am used to his physical presence, intimidation and the way the Lions playing group and supporters look up to him. Gives me goose bumps and gets adrenaline pumping watching him in action, I reckon that's what the other supporters refer to.
Riewoldt could be doing the same in St.Kilda supporters eyes, but him choosing to play smart footy pegs him a level below Browny - for majority of neutrals.
Riewoldt plays smart footy. When opponents try to wrestle him, he'll try to fight back to some extent - when things go beyond his liking, he'll milk it and get a free. I wouldn't blame him for doing that, he is out there to play footy. Opponents try to rattle him with physical stuff, he hurts them on scoreboard. Gladiator style footy is not his strength and he puts his best asset to use, which is his incredible work rate.
Of course I love Browny. I am used to his physical presence, intimidation and the way the Lions playing group and supporters look up to him. Gives me goose bumps and gets adrenaline pumping watching him in action, I reckon that's what the other supporters refer to.
Riewoldt could be doing the same in St.Kilda supporters eyes, but him choosing to play smart footy pegs him a level below Browny - for majority of neutrals.
Best post I have seen on this.
People like the big 'tough guy' image as a centre half forward. Problem is that this game isn't just about the tough guys. Brown is involved in a lot more body on body contests. His power usually gets him a mark out of this. This is usually very effective.
Riewoldt works too his strengths in the same way - his marking (uses every centimetre of his body to stretch up and take the mark behind his head) and his work rate and running ability. The way he plays if he is on song he is impossible to stop. If he gets a clear run and jump at the footy good luck trying to stop him. Yes he may go down every now and then but if the umpires fall for it good luck to him.
To me Riewoldt = Brown. None is better than the other. Its just the image of a big tough guy (who is always in the media) compared to one who might not act as tough (who doesn't have such a high profile in the media) that makes Brown sound better. Peoples hate for Riewoldt is shown.
DT points? Where is Joel Bowden?
nick riewoldt12
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Yep Brown won them on his own, didn't have the best team ever around him or anything.
Brown had one decent GF in that period, other than that his only decent final was against the Saints in 04 (a year they didn't win the comp).
Brown is truely one of the most overated players I have seen, put any CHF in that Lions team and they win.
nick riewoldt12
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Because that happens so often, you are incredibly smart the way you have come up with the perfect formula to judge footballers, thankyou I will never have to think about "who's better" again, I just have to imagine the siren has sounded and ask myself who's hands I wan't the ball in.
Jordan Mcmahon everyone, the AFL's greatest player.
Both are great footballers, both players are extremely courageous, both have had the benefit over their careers of playing in some pretty decent teams.
Big Nick has only over the last 2 seasons in my opinion become a match winner, since he has collected more of his possies in goal kicking areas and less on the wing.
Browny has been a match winner for years, he is everything every man wants to be. He is big, strong has a hot mrs (nick could learn from this) and a jump on my back boys i will get us over the line captain. Browny is the ultra Alpha Male and he plays like it. Every blokes loves this, where as Nick is a your typical metro and he plays like one- diving for free kicks, crying and he shows a lack of steal (except for when he attacks the footy)
In the end it is hard to split both players but on mental attributes and goal kicking skill it is hard to go pass BROWN!!!
Big Nick has only over the last 2 seasons in my opinion become a match winner, since he has collected more of his possies in goal kicking areas and less on the wing.
Browny has been a match winner for years, he is everything every man wants to be. He is big, strong has a hot mrs (nick could learn from this) and a jump on my back boys i will get us over the line captain. Browny is the ultra Alpha Male and he plays like it. Every blokes loves this, where as Nick is a your typical metro and he plays like one- diving for free kicks, crying and he shows a lack of steal (except for when he attacks the footy)
In the end it is hard to split both players but on mental attributes and goal kicking skill it is hard to go pass BROWN!!!
ballanFYNE
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Pavlich
Hahahahahahaha.........echoing the thoughts of those who KNOW football you are comparing the two from DT points! Laughable. No point explaining why, we ALL KNOW.
We might as well look at Brownlow votes:
Brown - Games = 185, Brownlow Votes = 91
Riewoldt - Games = 183, Brownlow Votes = 87
Clearly Brown is ahead of Riewoldt..
FWIW both are great players, any club would have either of them. But the Sunday Footy Show yesterday had it 4-2 Brown's way so that puts this argument to rest.
Banyo Bloods
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QueensofLeon
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I don't care who is better I enjoy watching both guys play and am more than happy that I at least have one of them in my team. If I could also have Browny I would in a heartbeat. But why do people insist that the true measure of a player is premiership medals? By that reckoning Cam Mooney is three times the Full Forward that Plugger ever was. Give yourself an uppercut.
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Close your eyes and imagine the 2 of them in 100 1 on 1 contests.
Now remove the 20 or so soft frees the umps would find for Riewoldt.
Can anyone in their right mind imagine Riewoldt getting close to even 20 wins?
I would imagine the contest would be:
Brown 65
Spoils 20
Riewoldt 15
Feel free to agree with me.
Now remove the 20 or so soft frees the umps would find for Riewoldt.
Can anyone in their right mind imagine Riewoldt getting close to even 20 wins?
I would imagine the contest would be:
Brown 65
Spoils 20
Riewoldt 15
Feel free to agree with me.
QueensofLeon
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Close your eyes and imagine the 2 of them in 100 1 on 1 contests.
Now remove the 20 or so soft frees the umps would find for Riewoldt.
Can anyone in their right mind imagine Riewoldt getting close to even 20 wins?
I would imagine the contest would be:
Brown 65
Spoils 20
Riewoldt 15
Feel free to agree with me.
They are two totally different players the fact they play in the same position and are captains of their teams pretty much sums up their similarities. You could say close your eyes and picture them on the lead and you would have the same results but in Riewoldts favour. Apples and oranges
Reiwoldt would make a lot of the marks by leading hard and fast into space where brown would find it hard to keep up with.
If the midfielders kicked it to where reiwoldt was standing, Brown would run straight through reiwoldt to get the ball.
Brown is the best power forward in the competition, closely followed by Hall and Buddy (when not sucking down 2 dozen cheezie burgers) Something not seen since Ablett, dunstall and Plugger terrorised defenders in the 80s and 90s.
Reiwoldt isn't going to cripple defenders with his bulk, but he'll blow a few heart valves of defenders who can't keep pace with him.
Brown despite being powerful is an awesome lead up forward as well, and Reiwoldt while being tremendous athlete can also take mass pack marks.
Both are outstanding players who dominate CHF/FF.
I suspect defenders would rather concede 8 goals to Brown than riewoldt, because you can recover from a 20 km run in a game of footy, you'd be longer recovering from brown rib crushing pack smashing mark from brown.
That said, at the end of the day, your team is likely to cop a thrashing if either Brown or Riewoldt is on song.
I love watching brown (except against us) run through packs and come out with the footy, with about 8 players rubbing their bodies while he seems impervious to pain.
I also love watching reiwoldt rise above packs for another mark from the sky or leap forward to grab a footy 2 inches above the grass from another 30m sprint leaving the defender gasping for big ones.
Two outstanding players.
If the midfielders kicked it to where reiwoldt was standing, Brown would run straight through reiwoldt to get the ball.
Brown is the best power forward in the competition, closely followed by Hall and Buddy (when not sucking down 2 dozen cheezie burgers) Something not seen since Ablett, dunstall and Plugger terrorised defenders in the 80s and 90s.
Reiwoldt isn't going to cripple defenders with his bulk, but he'll blow a few heart valves of defenders who can't keep pace with him.
Brown despite being powerful is an awesome lead up forward as well, and Reiwoldt while being tremendous athlete can also take mass pack marks.
Both are outstanding players who dominate CHF/FF.
I suspect defenders would rather concede 8 goals to Brown than riewoldt, because you can recover from a 20 km run in a game of footy, you'd be longer recovering from brown rib crushing pack smashing mark from brown.
That said, at the end of the day, your team is likely to cop a thrashing if either Brown or Riewoldt is on song.
I love watching brown (except against us) run through packs and come out with the footy, with about 8 players rubbing their bodies while he seems impervious to pain.
I also love watching reiwoldt rise above packs for another mark from the sky or leap forward to grab a footy 2 inches above the grass from another 30m sprint leaving the defender gasping for big ones.
Two outstanding players.
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If Brown is closely followed by Hall then I can only assume you think Riewoldt is closely followed by Gumbleton.
People saying Riewoldt is a much harder worker, bigger tank etc, are not entirely true. Brown is looking fitter than ever this year, and he is gaining the same amount of possessions as Roo is, but is having approx. 6 more kicks than him. Looking at the "metres gained" section in the Hun, it says Brown was second on ground with 576m gained. Roo however was not to be seen, so but we know he gained less than 524m.
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