Roos ripe for AFL takeover - Caro

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Venomous bile. Simply an opinion piece, offering nothing but smart arsed language and old quotes.

What an evil being she is.

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http://www.theage.com.au/realfooty/news/afl/roos-ripe-for-afl-takeover/2007/02/23/1171734022783.html



Roos ripe for AFL takeover
Caroline Wilson
February 24, 2007




If ever there was an obvious solution to a club that has lurched in recent years from crisis to catastrophe as have the poor identity-seeking Kangaroos, then it is for the AFL to step in and buy it.

The Roos are ripe for the takeover and, as brutal as it sounds, there seems no other solution for a team with so poor a public profile, so little support and such desperately crazy political issues.

In a farcical attempt to buy two million votes two days ago, the lighting billionaire Peter de Rauch turned up at a board meeting with a cheque for $27,000. That such a coup was even considered legally possible is beyond belief. Surely Bob Ansett did not envisage such a circus when he set up his A and B-class share structure.

My colleague Robert Walls has argued strongly for immediate relocation to the Gold Coast and the truth is that most senior Kangaroos, informed commentators and AFL heavies agree with him.

North Melbourne must retain at least 10 games in Melbourne, accept that a state-of-the-art Arden Street is a pipe-dream and set up a base in Queensland with the full backing and steering of the AFL.



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It is not enough for the commission to sit back and watch the club's problems continue to unfold.

Clearly the AFL chiefs are waiting for the result of next week's annual meeting and the end of the dreaded current share structure, but not every political problem will be solved by an election.

Should de Rauch and his team prove victorious, the AFL is unlikely to go into business with the North board. De Rauch was backing his fellow director and supporter Maurice Reilly for the chief executive's job last year, so more political turmoil is on the cards.

De Rauch has some staunch supporters and some powerful enemies.

Should chairman Graham Duff win, as he is favoured to do, he faces the prospect of a hostile and influential Ron Joseph alongside him.

Duff has indicated to friends in recent weeks that football behind the glass was so much tougher than he expected and you have to wonder whether he has the experience to tackle the sensitive job of relocation.

Not only do the Kangaroos boast a hopelessly low profile and poor market brand, their problems are damaging the AFL brand just as Carlton's have done.

It is also not enough to send in help as the competition's governing body has done with an annual grant of $1.4 million and now financial hope with the Carrara move.

Look at Carlton. The AFL lent the club money and sent in its favoured consultant-turned-AFL executive Jim Watts, along with commissioner-turned-AFL chairman-elect Mike Fitzpatrick and nothing really changed.

Certainly North's debts (about $2 million) are fractional compared with Carlton's and its on-field performances more impressive in recent years but Carlton's image and supporter base had not been totally damaged by the club's dreadful on and off-field performance.

New chairman ******** Pratt, who has pledged money along with a managerial makeover, at least offers hope.

The Kangaroos are desperately short on hope and even the club's most senior people believe the AFL is its only saviour now.

A share buy-out could be tricky. Under the present share structure, such a move would cost the competition $5 million but the commission is famous for keeping its hand in its

pocket and probably has a more economic plan.

The Age revealed last December that Andrew Demetriou had attended a Kangaroos board meeting and discussed a possible share purchase.

Rejecting comparisons with the South Melbourne of the 1980s, Demetriou said then: "We did discuss the possibility of buying shares at a board meeting. There were some shareholders who were asking whether we'd be interested in purchasing their shares and we said we'd look at it.

"This is a club that the AFL has completely supported with football money and continued to support.

"There is no sinister plot here but when we put money into a football club, we expect to have a say in its direction.

"It is the same as any investment. We put $1.4 million a year into North along with a lot of money into Carrara and the Gold Coast. It's a pretty serious investment and it's football money, as I say.

"The other 15 clubs would be disappointed if we didn't and they are well within their rights.

"Having said that, we are still a major shareholder in the Sydney Swans but we have never attempted to influence what they do."

The Broncos are the reigning premiers, the Gold Coast Titans are proving a publicity machine and A-League soccer is on the rise around Australia. The Brisbane Lions have money in the bank but look likely to lose money again this year and the competition up north is growing fiercer by the minute.

It would be untenable for the AFL to relocate — even partly — another team to Queensland without throwing every possible resource behind it including an administration in which it has total faith.

Channel Ten and pay television have thrown their support behind the code in Brisbane and the Gold Coast and the competition is flush with cash.

The Kangaroos are ripe for the takeover. And the time for the AFL to act is now.
 
A league or association buying any member club is just wrong.

I also note that Robert Walls in his argument for a permanent move suggested that a name change to the Northern Kangaroos would satisfy both old and new supporters.

"Informed commentators". What a laugh.
 

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Another kick in the guts. :thumbsdown:

Who gives a s*** about Robert Walls opinion. You would think with all the probs Carlton has, that he would would be keeping his nose out of other's business. I can't beleive these clowns get paid the amount that they do to write this crap.
 
Should de Rauch and his team prove victorious, the AFL is unlikely to go into business with the North board.

As good a reason as any to hope the de Rauch ticket gets up over the Duff one, still hope we get three real member candidates elected rather than 3 extensions of the shareholder ticket.

Not only do the Kangaroos boast a hopelessly low profile and poor market brand, their problems are damaging the AFL brand just as Carlton's have done.

Oh f**k off. We've made finals more often than not in the last two decades, and are still one of the most successful sides during that period. Compare that to her sh1t team at Punt Rd, and I know which team has done more for footy.
 
Editorial effluent. Nothing but a misguided opinion piece from a particularly bitter and twisted soul.

A woman who is such an evil, imbecilic character that apparently even Mark Twain (who could time-travel, btw) was sufficiently entertained to write about her.....


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I'd rather be poor and in control of my own destiny than to hand over anything to the AFL. These are the same manipulative bozos that supported the North-Fitzroy merger right up to the point when it actually counted.

As for the AFL pumping money into our club if what remains of our "poor identity" is sold out to a bunch of corporates you can guarantee the AFL is going to have to pump a lot more into the club to literally buy a premiership to justify the "success" of their decision making no matter what the cost. We certainly will not win one based on spirit if we sell out.

You know like how Brisbane and Sydney managed to get draft picks 1-6 at the same time Fitzroy did not and 8 players from Fitzroy went to Brisbane and bigger salary caps and zone selections and money.

Oh and CW, the last tiime the AFL bullied us and our "poor identity" crisis and threw money around to interstate clubs, we won a gold cup in the same year, 1996. And who did we beat along the way in the finals - Brisbane and Sydney. Perhaps the AFL had not quite pumped enough into those clubs at that time or maybe the North spirit was just too much for the AFL endorsed clubs to overcome. We won that premiership purely off our own backs in the same year the AFL sold out one of the founding clubs and 1st finals premiers in the AFL's cententary year.
 
Started reading the article until I realised it was just another "put the boots into the Roos" piece of crap from a third-rate journalist who knows jack all about the topic she's paid to comment about so instead she gets fixated on her own agendas. Not worth reading.
 
After an off season of reading the Age because of good content about the round ball game, I made the mistake of picking one up this morning to read more about last nights positive win.

How wrong was I!!! A match review surrounded by 2 articles saying we had to relocate, and the front cover of Robert Wallas saying ......we had to relocate. They are unbelievable with that agenda they have.

Last time I read that rag for the year, but at the end of the day if people would buy memberships, we wouldnt have this issue. People without memberships resulting in our poor figure....hang your heads in shame...THERE IS NO EXCUSE.
 
It is literally amazing how Caroline Wilson can come to the conclusion that two of the last three Victorian premiership teams, Carlton and Kangaroos, are damaging the AFL brand. Did she say the same thing when Sydney and Brisbane were playing rubbish televised football in non football states for most of the 90s when people like Wallsy and Barassi were coach?

Read Wallsy's article and he has suddenly become a mind reader and knows what Archer and Laidley and Walsh are thinking based on body language.

Expert on football in Queensland too, after his "great" 1991-1995 years. Fellow AGE journo Voss pumped him up in his article too. Wonder if we could get a similar article from Shane Strempel?
 
It is so easy to be a football "journalist". They observe from such a privileged position. Their's is the easiest of rides when all is said and done.

They get paid to travel to watch the game wherever the stories might next be written. And they almost always do so with no understanding of what it is like to be ordinary supporters.

Virtually the only "privilege" of ordinary supporters is the one of forking out their hard earned to buy a membership or memberships to support their beloved club.

It is fine for "journalists" to support a relocation if that's what they think is best for the "brand", but they should not impose their views on ordinary supporters. Instead they should try to understand what merger/relocation has done and will do to so many of the heartland.

Perhaps Robert Walls might look up his old Fitzroy teammate, David McMahon, and ask him what it feels like to have his club stolen away from him.

The awfulness of this is that those with money and power, but not necessarily any understanding, as usual seek to and probably ultimately will dictate the fortunes of those who do have the understanding but do not have the same resouces with which to compete.

Regrettably those with money and power will dictate over those people whose original struggles and support built the game to where it is.

Thank God that ultimately there is a mightier power than all of us.
 

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Last time I read that rag for the year, but at the end of the day if people would buy memberships, we wouldnt have this issue. People without memberships resulting in our poor figure....hang your heads in shame...THERE IS NO EXCUSE.

Absoultely correct FrangaRoo, if you want to keep North at Arden street, then support the club with a membership/s. Be a supporter, not just a barracker. Too many Fitzroy people made the mistake of not buying a membership.
 
Is someone going to back the "relocate to the Gold Coast" argument up with any facts. We continually hear that it will answer all our problems, but how?

The footy starved GC had 11 thousand there last night. Half were Collingwood supporters. How many tickets were giveaways?

It really does seem that they had these stories in store just in case a win gave us a five minute reprieve from all this depressing GC talk. Quality people performing quality journalism.
 
Is someone going to back the "relocate to the Gold Coast" argument up with any facts. We continually hear that it will answer all our problems, but how?

The footy starved GC had 11 thousand there last night. Half were Collingwood supporters. How many tickets were giveaways?

It really does seem that they had these stories in store just in case a win gave us a five minute reprieve from all this depressing GC talk. Quality people performing quality journalism.
Yes, Windsock, it seems rather incredible that the good news bit in the Age football section was prefaced and surrounded by all the depressing bits.

This is so similar to how the media helped to hound Fitzroy out of the AFL in the lead up to 1996. Then after Fitzroy was gone, nearly all of them cried sanctimonious crocodile tears about how sad it all was.
 
As for Caro, she's still in Wallace la-la land. Thinks Terry is going to deliver the Tiges to the promised land. Good luck with that Caro.
The coach who got a massive five-year deal because he's been so successful. How many premierships again?
How many finals campaigns in last 20 years for her Tiges?
How many flags?
How much did they pay Gaspar?
I'm sure all that will turn around now they have the great Kent Kingsley.
Yeah, when I consider all the above, it is easy to see how we have been a blight on the AFL, what with our premierships, team spirit and finals success and all.
What was I thinking?
 
The Age is my newspaper of choice but when it comes to the NMFC they are nothing short of vicious. I nearly spat Hot Crossed bun across the kitchen bench reading thise glut of articles this morning.

I will be sending some 'inquistive feedback' about Wilson and Walls to The Age. I suggest you do the same if you are sick of such tripe.

feedback@theage.com.au
 
Is someone going to back the "relocate to the Gold Coast" argument up with any facts. We continually hear that it will answer all our problems, but how?

And that's exactly why we ain't going nowhere for a while. The AFL aren't just guna pack us up and move us north when it is clearly not ready for a full-time AFL team. They're not that supid.....or are they???
 
It sh1ts me that the club allows this shrew to get away with this spew week in week out. I'll be listening to 1278 at 12 to hopefully hear Rick Aylett or the Duffman reject all the suggestions that are a direct attack on the current board, such as our brand is poor. More likely than not, they'll leave it to poor old Dean or, more likely, continue to ignore it.

Hopefully, they will also refute the suggestion that the Arden St re-dev is pie-in-the-sky.

But I won't hold my breath.
 
As for Caro, she's still in Wallace la-la land. Thinks Terry is going to deliver the Tiges to the promised land. Good luck with that Caro.
The coach who got a massive five-year deal because he's been so successful. How many premierships again?
How many finals campaigns in last 20 years for her Tiges?
How many flags?
How much did they pay Gaspar?
I'm sure all that will turn around now they have the great Kent Kingsley.
Yeah, when I consider all the above, it is easy to see how we have been a blight on the AFL, what with our premierships, team spirit and finals success and all.
What was I thinking?

The issue is about the future , not the past.
 
Just finished watching the replay on Fox and thought I'd log on to see if any reports and share the feeling of satisfaction with my fellow Roo's and blow me down the first thing I see is THAT WOMAN'S name on OUR Board. Talk about lower the mood. :mad:

It's enough to make a person want to jump on a plane and go and punch her lights out. But I'm a lady so will go back to sticking pins in the CW doll.


Why don't ALL Roo supporters sign a petition to black ball the AGE - don't buy it - just don't mention the ego tripping Bovine's name again. If anyone mentions her just use the code, The Bovine. From reports I think the Bovine has it in for a couple of other clubs - a bit of Solidarity Brothers and Sisters?

anyway, WIN WAS GOOD - it was the win we had to win....:thumbsu:
 
I noticed Caro believes we should play 10 games in melb a year. Is this something we should remember in the memory bank.

She is woeful and thats why I would never buy the age.
 

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