Rumour Ross Lyon - 2019 Carlton Senior Coach

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my bad...4 grand finals, but you get the gist of what I meant

Well, when you view it from that perspective, he knows how to take a team three times all the way to a grand final.

At Carlton, a win for the Club will be just being regularly competitive. Lyon can easily do that and probably get them 4-6 wins a year for a few yeas.

Yes it will be ugly and boring, but its better that for the Blues than being 4 from 43.
 

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Well, when you view it from that perspective, he knows how to take a team three times all the way to a grand final.

At Carlton, a win for the Club will be just being regularly competitive. Lyon can easily do that and probably get them 4-6 wins a year for a few yeas.

Yes it will be ugly and boring, but its better that for the Blues than being 4 from 43.
Ugly, boring and winning is better than ugly, boring and losing.
 
In those grand finals you mentioned, its not like his teams were blown apart in all of them either.

Saints could have beaten the Pies that day and Freo had their chances to roll the Hawks but botched their kicking for goal.

The main problem with Ross is that his game style is boring and very ugly.
When ya team gets rolled each week you start to not care how pretty it is as long as youre a chance for a W :)
 
Lyon is smarter than that surely. A look at the last 20 years will tell you that if he took that position, he’ll never work as a senior coach again after he inevitably fails. The much vaunted list is a media beat up perpetuated by the multitude of Carlton fanboys and sycophants in the media.
 
This is accurate.

You can definitely make an argument that Ross' football is bad to watch. You can't make a logically sound argument that Ross can't coach or is not capable of winning a grand final. Unless of course you can prove that luck doesn't exist.
Ross can coach. Ugly footy. Though you would have to say he has had the benefit of going to the saints and Freo when the worst was behind them and they were on the way up.
 
Ross can coach. Ugly footy. Though you would have to say he has had the benefit of going to the saints and Freo when the worst was behind them and they were on the way up.
He's been to the bottom with us now and seemingly back on the way up though, so you can't really knock him for that anymore unless we completely plateau.

We are not that ugly anyway. We were woeful to watch for the last 3 years but most of that is because we sucked in general. Up and about we have and now do again, play some decent footy.
 
Lyon is smarter than that surely. A look at the last 20 years will tell you that if he took that position, he’ll never work as a senior coach again after he inevitably fails. The much vaunted list is a media beat up perpetuated by the multitude of Carlton fanboys and sycophants in the media.

Yep, Carlton.
The media’s love child........FMD.
 
Ross Lyon is probably the most arrogant and blindly confident man in football though. Which says a lot when you have guys like Wayne Carey and Gary Lyon who have the ability to sit there on TV and not wince. Lyon will back himself and he knows if he does, he's got this weird cult of personality and enough cunning to stay in jobs. He's kind of good at it but he's far from humble.

Would be awesome though, would be absolutely awesome if he left.
 

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