Unofficial Preview Round 1, 2024: Bombers v Hawks, MCG 1:10pm Sat 16th March

[Dewnior]

Which players would have overtaken Nash if they played the same numbers of games. Sicily I can see and have acknowledged. Who re the others?

I think we are talking about two different things, which essentially stem from what the definition of "best" is. Yours seems to be PCM votes. My definition is more a combination of output, impact and overall value. Value in the sense that if we lost that player what would the impact to the team balance and strength be.

If we were to.lose Nash, there are quite a few waiting in the wings to play his role and while they may not prove as good in the role as Nash the gap would be smaller than if we had to find replacements for all the names ahead of Nash on the list above.

But I see your point and we are both right in our own way. It's best if we just leave it at that.

 

[CHUBBSS]

The Coach loves Nash.

How can you not

 

[FB19]

I love Nash, but he ain't our 3rd best player.

And hardly the fairest either…

 

[Brant]

And hardly the fairest either…

How was that unfair?

 

[FB19]

How was that unfair?

I forget about how literal I have to be here with jokes especially not my usual hilarious ones - what’s the font again?

 

[Brant]

I forget about how literal I have to be here with jokes especially not my usual hilarious ones - what’s the font again?

Calibri size 11 is my favourite. I used to be Garamond 12 but kinda grew out of it.

 

[Mr Lizard]

 

[RoughysMullet]

B Hardwick Blank Scrimshaw
HB Impey Sicily Weddle
C Amon Newcombe Jiath
HF Moore Lewis Gunston
F Bruest Chol Watson
R Reeves Worpel Nash
Int Ward MacDonald Ginnivan Mackenzie
Sub D’Ambrosio
Emer Finn Butler S.Mitchell Meek
Inj Day Wingard

Expected to play games through the year:
Morrison Frost Stephens DGB Serong Ramsden Hustwaite B.McDonald

 

[Manila_Hawk]

B Hardwick Blank Scrimshaw
HB Impey Sicily Weddle
C Amon Newcombe Jiath
HF Moore Lewis Gunston
F Bruest Chol Watson
R Reeves Worpel Nash
Int Ward MacDonald Ginnivan Mackenzie
Sub D’Ambrosio
Emer Finn Butler Seamus Meek
Inj Day Wingard

Expected to play games through the year:
Morrison Frost Stephens DGB Serong Ramsden Hustwaite B.McDonald

That's a pretty fair effort there Roughy.

Some very good players not getting a guernsey.

Nice spot to be in !

 

[Tony3163]

B Hardwick Blank Scrimshaw
HB Impey Sicily Weddle
C Amon Newcombe Jiath
HF Moore Lewis Gunston
F Bruest Chol Watson
R Reeves Worpel Nash
Int Ward MacDonald Ginnivan Mackenzie
Sub D’Ambrosio
Emer Finn Butler S.Mitchell Meek
Inj Day Wingard

Expected to play games through the year:
Morrison Frost Stephens DGB Serong Ramsden Hustwaite B.McDonald

From preseason training and other club comments, etc Hardwick will be playing in forward half and Amon will playing in back half.

 

[Roger Rogerson]

B Hardwick Blank Scrimshaw
HB Impey Sicily Weddle
C Amon Newcombe Jiath
HF Moore Lewis Gunston
F Bruest Chol Watson
R Reeves Worpel Nash
Int Ward MacDonald Ginnivan Mackenzie
Sub D’Ambrosio
Emer Finn Butler S.Mitchell Meek
Inj Day Wingard

Expected to play games through the year:
Morrison Frost Stephens DGB Serong Ramsden Hustwaite B.McDonald

Finns 100% in the side unless injured. I reckon they are finding a spot for Shammy too with Dimma fwd.

 

[RoughysMullet]

From preseason training and other club comments, etc Hardwick will be playing in forward half and Amon will playing in back half.

Yeah I like that they’ve been training there but I’m not convinced it will come to fruition round 1…

Don’t see Amon being able to defend an opponent well enough to play in defence… worried opposition will try to isolate his opponent and we don’t really have anyone else that can play the wing role as well as he does… he really started to dominate games towards the end of last season…

Dimma is still our best small defender - think we lose something without him down there and have recruited Watson and Ginnivan to play as small forwards…

 

[TheFourPillars]

Amon already played in defence at the end of last year. Dimma will play forward has trained almost exclusively as a forward. You dont spend resources training there the whole season to not play there

 

[threesixpio]

I ‘Ken love Seamus. Was one of my favourite bits of last season watching his work

 

[Tony3163]

Amon already played in defence at the end of last year. Dimma will play forward has trained almost exclusively as a forward. You dont spend resources training there the whole season to not play there

Yep.

 

[smish]

I ‘Ken love Seamus. Was one of my favourite bits of last season watching his work

Has mongrel too which I love

 

[Gut Runner]

Is Croc, Ward, Hustwaite and Mackenzie fighting for a spot against each other?

Or are they trying to take senior players spots?

Is a fit CJ automatically in the side? Could Ward play there? I'd like games into HH.

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Is Croc, Ward, Hustwaite and Mackenzie fighting for a spot against each other?

Or are they trying to take senior players spots?

Is a fit CJ automatically in the side? Could Ward play there? I'd like games into HH.

i dont think ward is part of that but the other 3 yes

 

[BIGHAWK23]

i dont think ward is part of that but the other 3 yes

Croc aint fighting for a spot with those two

 

[Slainte]

Is Croc, Ward, Hustwaite and Mackenzie fighting for a spot against each other?

Or are they trying to take senior players spots?

Is a fit CJ automatically in the side? Could Ward play there? I'd like games into HH.

Are you talking about Round 1 or more generally?

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Yeah I like that they’ve been training there but I’m not convinced it will come to fruition round 1…

Don’t see Amon being able to defend an opponent well enough to play in defence… worried opposition will try to isolate his opponent and we don’t really have anyone else that can play the wing role as well as he does… he really started to dominate games towards the end of last season…

Dimma is still our best small defender - think we lose something without him down there and have recruited Watson and Ginnivan to play as small forwards…

Amon to the half back is a head scratcher for me as well.

As you say he was really good on the wing last half of 2023. Good wings are absolute gold IMOH

Hardwick playing forward is also an unusual gambit. Quality lock down Backmen who also give offensive drive like Dimma are also very valuable and hard to find.

Oh well will be interesting to see how the teams line up Round 1 at the very least.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Croc is more chance of fighting for a spot with Ginnivan, Moore and Butler, than Ward, MacKenzie and Hustwaite.

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Amon to the half back is a head scratcher for me as well.

As you say he was really good on the wing last half of 2023. Good wings are absolute gold IMOH

Hardwick playing forward is also an unusual gambit. Quality lock down Backmen who also give offensive drive like Dimma are also very valuable and hard to find.

Oh well will be interesting to see how the teams line up Round 1 at the very least.

bro he played half-back for much of that last half of 2023 when he put up career-best numbers

 

[cryptor]

PSA: Macdonald has played 41/45 possible AFL games in his career to date. Only 4 in the green vest.

Perplexing why he's constantly spoken about as a fringe player fighting for a spot.

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Croc is more chance of fighting for a spot with Ginnivan, Moore and Butler, than Ward, MacKenzie and Hustwaite.

Croc aint fighting for a spot with those two

i thought that Mackenzie and Huss played HFF (rotated anyway) when they got games last year. I guess Croc is more of a fwd than a mid at this point but I see his CBAs increasing this season to make it more of an even split. And Sam seems to play the young-mid that isn't quite good enough to demand constant CBAs at HFF, regardless of their intended eventual position.

i was never arguing that Cmac was a fringe 22 player, just that I imagine if those 3 are getting named it will be on a HF flank (unless there's an injury to our first-choice mids). Whereas Ward doesn't play fwd