Review Round 15, 2015 - Brisbane Lions vs Sydney

[CarloLion]

Soooo... Goodes immediately pointing out someone (who he had no idea the age of) calling him a racially derogatory name, in Indigenous Round, is not ok? He should just cop anything that comes his way?

And puh-lease, that war dance was rad as hell (which again he only did in Indigenous Round), Inglis does his goanna crawl and it's dope and adds to the spectacle. You've been saying booing Goodes is all part of the theatre yet he should not have a right of reply? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?

Yep, exactly my point, I dislike the war dance, so I can boo him if I wish (Actually I have never even boo'd him yet!) and people shouldnt be able to play the race card, was my one of my points. Anyway thats the end of the topic for me, thank you for the back and forth good sir!

 

[lukiuslion]

Fair points. I dont quite agree with all you say, however, but will also cease posting on this issue

I really do see elements of your position too, we shouldn't be scared to say 'I hate the way Goode's plays footy' without being howled down at picked apart, I think the theatre of football makes for an interesting discussion. I've enjoyed hearing your point of view, and the issues it has raised.

 

[Cooties]

I only occasionally boo at the footy and it's for one of the two following reasons:
1. The player did some grub act during the game
2. They're the umpire...

Well, maybe I use 2 more than occasionally

 

[CarloLion]

I understand this thread is totally de-railed, but just out of curiosity, have there been many indigenous umpires in our game at the highest level? I cant recall ever having seen too many...

 

[lukiuslion]

I understand this thread is totally de-railed, but just out of curiosity, have there been many indigenous umpires in our game at the highest level? I cant recall ever having seen too many...

Has it really been de-railed?, it is a review of the Brisbane vs Sydney game and one of the biggest social issues of this year, was on display during it, so I suppose we are reviewing it? lol

None - Jordan Banister was talking about trying to recruit 'Jeff Garlett' as the first indigenous umpire on Open mike the other week.

 

[matwt73]

And puh-lease, that war dance was rad as hell (which again he only did in Indigenous Round), Inglis does his goanna crawl and it's dope and adds to the spectacle. You've been saying booing Goodes is all part of the theatre yet he should not have a right of reply? ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED!?

Aboriginal player, celebrating his aboriginality, during indigenous round after an effective passage of play.

Getting in the face of opposition fans who have been giving him stick. In circumstances where most of the comp had written him off and decided he had played on a year too long.

I for one bloody loved it.

 

[lukiuslion]

Goodes is black? Thought he was Arabian.

Racist!!.. casually joking about race.. is.... racism.. racist..

 

[dlanod]

I understand this thread is totally de-railed, but just out of curiosity, have there been many indigenous umpires in our game at the highest level? I cant recall ever having seen too many...

Only one apparently, and definitely well before my time.

Glenn Robert James OAM[1] is a former Australian rules football umpire in the Victorian Football League. James umpired the 1982 and 1984 VFL Grand Finals and is recognised as the only Indigenous Australian to umpire VFL or AFL football.[2][3]

...

After starting his umpiring career in country football, James umpired 166 VFL matches between 1977 and 1985 including the1982 and 1984 VFL Grand Finals, and was the umpire selected in the Indigenous Team of the Century.[6][7]

As an umpire James faced abuse from spectators on the basis of his racial background.[8] In 1978 as a result of the nature of the abuse of James, lawyer Greg Lyons studied the legality of this abuse.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_James

 

[CarloLion]

Only one apparently, and definitely well before my time.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_James

Cheers. Boy he would have copped it in the 70's and 80's, can only imagine what he would have had to go through.

 

[Ironmonger]

Only one apparently, and definitely well before my time.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_James

I'd honestly never heard of him. Slight embarrassed about that. Thanks dlanod.

 

[CarloLion]

Aboriginal player, celebrating his aboriginality, during indigenous round after an effective passage of play.

Getting in the face of opposition fans who have been giving him stick. In circumstances where most of the comp had written him off and decided he had played on a year too long.

I for one bloody loved it.

I still think he has played on a year too long. It must be tough to make the call though, with the Swans right in contention for a flag. Also you'd be feeling cherry ripe before the pre-season starts so I can understand why it would be easy to go through for another year. Pavlich is in the same boat really, there for one more shot at a flag.

 

[Ceebee]

I'd honestly never heard of him. Slight embarrassed about that. Thanks dlanod.

Used to be on 98.9 Footy commentary team a few years back.not sure if he still is.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

I'd honestly never heard of him. Slight embarrassed about that. Thanks dlanod.

Fitzroy fans from the '80s should remember him. It was Glen James that paid the deliberate out bounds in the last quarter of the 1983 Qualifying Final against Hawthorn. Back in the day it was paid about 5 times a season, and he pulled it out at such a crucial time. A few years ago I was in the MCC members queue to get into the Grand Final and he was right next to us. Had a bit of a chat to him about it and he swore that it was the right decision. I'm not bitter or anything.

 

[Mr Ripper]

I'd honestly never heard of him. Slight embarrassed about that. Thanks dlanod.

If the link doesn't take you straight there, go to 55:48 to see back to back Glenn James decisions (both arguably there) that may well have cost Fitzroy the 1983 premiership. Glenn had family history at Fitzroy, incidentally.

 

[Viceregal]

For some reason this particular set of quotes comes to mind ...

From Yes Prime Minister

Narrator: Humphrey said he had more bad news about Soames.

Humphrey: 'He's also against oppression and persecution in Africa.'

Hacker: I saw no problem with that. 'So are we.'

Humphrey: 'Yes', he agreed. 'But Soames is against it when practiced by black governments as well as white ones.'

Hacker: So he's a racist!


and from Die Hard with a Vengeance

You're a racist!
You're calling *me* racist???
Yeah - you don't like me 'cause I'm white!

 

[knaf]

I was at a Footy night where Glenn James was one of the speakers. He told a story about umpiring at Victoria Park (Collingwood's old home ground). Two old ladies were having a go at him as he walked off the ground. One yelled "they shouldnt let your types into the country!".

 

[ZoBlitz]

Just boo ex-Lions players who did the dirty on us and you can't go wrong.

 

[Davemonkey]

Crackers Keenan told a story on the old Mondayitis podcast a few years back where Glenn James noted to him during a game once that the fans in the crowd calling him a 'white maggot' weren't looking very hard.

 

[blynd_freddie]

Glenn James decisions (both arguably there) that may well have cost Fitzroy the 1983 premiership. Glenn had family history at Fitzroy, incidentally.

Shadrach James - 18 games back in '40 & '41 - Glenn James uncle I believe.

 

[Fatcat08]

Just boo ex-Lions players who did the dirty on us and you can't go wrong.

I'm not sure I have the lung capacity.

 

[Cousin Jed]

I was at a Footy night where Glenn James was one of the speakers. He told a story about umpiring at Victoria Park (Collingwood's old home ground). Two old ladies were having a go at him as he walked off the ground. One yelled "they shouldnt let your types into the country!".

Dawn Fraser a Collingwood fan?

 

[josephs_79]

Does annoy me when Christensen drops the head looking for free kicks. But I was happy with his performance overall.

You could say that about 1/4 of our team who do it as well then. Zorko has been the worst of recent times and I have commented on it a couple of times in other review threads. Adcock does do it but not as often as others but still noticeable at times. There have been 2 or 3 others but cant think off the top of head (Pun intended )

I have noticed it the last few years and wondering if they are all taking a leaf out of Selwoods book because he gets away with it a lot and is commented on all the time!

 

[iBeng]

When you have a 6 foot 1 guy tackling a 5 foot 7 guy at least 50% of the time the heads going to get hit.

 

[Nunez]

One thing about Bundy is his haircut always looks like his head flings up.

 

[Bucking Beads]

This was my first live game of the year and gee I had fun. Really need to go to more games.