Preview Round 3: Brisbane vs North Melbourne, Sat 2nd April, 7pm Brisbane time @ Gabba

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Brisbane Lions vs North Melbourne

Saturday 2nd April, 7pm Brisbane time @ Gabba


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Form Guide

Round 1:
  • Brisbane 11.14.80 def Port Adelaide 10.9.69
  • Hawthorn 11.12.78 def North Melbourne 8.10.58
Brisbane came out sluggish in Round 1 against another 2021 top-four finisher in Port Adelaide. What became a defensive slog for three quarters became an offensive blitz in the last quarter, as we piled on five goals to come out on top. Any win against another side tipped to make the top four is one to take to the bank.

North Melbourne kicked off their year against another side tipped to miss the finals in Hawthorn. North were on top of a scrappy game early, building a 20-point lead halfway through the second quarter, only for Hawthorn to stamp their authority and take the game away from them. North faced some backlash for their decision to play three ruckmen (Xerri, Goldstein, and Coleman-Jones), and whilst Noble backed the decision post-match, Coleman-Jones was dropped for the following game.

Round 2:
  • Essendon 10.15.75 def by Brisbane 15.7.97
  • North Melbourne 10.14.74 def West Coast 8.11.59
Round 2 was a tale of two halves for Brisbane. A very disappointing first quarter against Essendon, who came out firing after being embarrassed by Geelong in Round 1, had the Lions playing from behind, looking stagnant and reactive in defense, and mediocre with the ball in hand. Led from the front by Neale with 41 disposals and 2 goals, we worked our way into the game and won by 22 points.

North Melbourne were in a lose-lose position from the outset in Round 2 – up against a depleted West Coast side that had 17 AFL-listed players to choose from, most unfairly predicted a thumping win against a side with little synergy or AFL experience. The Roos did enough, winning by 15 and not ever really looking in trouble, but it was a dismal game that had very few shining stars – one being Nick Larkey’s six goals.

Past Results

Round 14 2021: North Melbourne 6.9.45 def by Brisbane 9.14.68
  • Lions best: Lyons 36 disposals, McCluggage 31 disposals & 0.3, Neale 30 disposals & 1.0
  • Roos best: Larkey 3.1, Ziebell 32 disposals, Simpkin 31 disposals
Round 12 2020: North Melbourne 8.4.52 def by Brisbane 7.11.53
  • Lions best: Neale 24 disposals, McCarthy 2.1, McInerney 2.0 & 24 hitouts
  • Roos best: Anderson 29 disposals, Simpkin 26 disposals, Larkey 2.2
Round 18 2019: Brisbane 12.15.87 def North Melbourne 12.3.75
  • Lions best: Lyons 30 disposals & 2.1, Christensen 3.1, McCluggage 18 disposals & 2.0
  • Roos best: Higgins 27 disposals & 1.0, Brown 3.1, Cunnington 21 disposals & 1.0
Round 2 2019: North Melbourne 13.9.87 def by Brisbane 16.11.107
  • Lions best: Neale 43 disposals, Rich 27 disposals, Cameron 4.1
  • Roos best: Cunnington 36 disposals & 1.0, Higgins 38 disposals, Brown 3.2
We’ve had some close games against North Melbourne over the past few years, which is an interesting contrast to our respective ladder positions over that time. In 2019, a free kick to Oscar McInerney in the dying minutes (that the AFL later announced was incorrectly paid) sealed a win for the Lions in Daniel Rich’s 200th game. That year we marched to our first top 4 finish in 15 years, whilst the Roos slumped to 12th. In 2020, Cam Zurhaar’s kick after the siren got the Roos within a point of the Lions, again a very close finish given we finished 2nd that year, and the Roos finished 17th.

Last year, we met mid-season in our first game after the bye. Having lost to the eventual premiers Melbourne in a disappointing fashion in the game leading into the bye (up by 20 at half-time only to be rolled comprehensively in the second half), we were expected to make a statement against the bottom of the ladder side, after two weeks of licking our wounds. Well, the Lions emerged from the bye… and failed to make a statement. Two points down at half-time and lucky not to be further down, a four-goal run either side of the three-quarter time break got us home by 23 points in an unconvincing manner.

This seems to be a theme of our last few games against North Melbourne – we have won our last four games against the Kangaroos, but none of them have been in an impressive manner, given our contrasting fortunes over the last three years.

This then begs the question – why are we so underwhelming against the Kangaroos? I come to you with zero possible hypotheses, outside of our inability to truly put teams to the sword over the past few years.



Around the Ground: Lions attack vs Roos defence

North’s defence has lost its main rock in Robbie Tarrant, who defected to the Tigers in the off-season. Replacing him is Aidan Corr, who missed all of last season with some form of toe infection. Their other key defensive post is none other than Josh Walker, who has made a decent fist of his third crack in the AFL, but comes with the same limitations we saw during his time at Brisbane.

Given Corr is 194cm and from my understanding more of a Gardiner-style talls/smalls defender, I’d imagine Walker will take Daniher, giving us an opportunity to expose Walker if Daniher is given the chance. This begs an interesting dilemma for the Roos, as they will then be left with Corr to man up against the resting ruck in McInerney/Fort, Lachie Young (at 189cm) up against McStay, and possibly the 23-gamer Aiden Bonar (the medical sub against West Coast, but played most of the game after Davies-Uniacke was subbed off early) against Cameron.

If Brisbane can lower the eyes and give our forwards repeat entries, there seems to be an opportunity to put some scoreboard pressure on the Roos.

North’s strength in their defence is their rebounding – Aaron Hall and Jack Ziebell both being reborn as rebounding half-backs in 2021 was quite successful, and Luke McDonald is their best and fairest winner from 2020. Whilst Hall is not the most efficient kick by boot, he takes damaging options often enough to cause havoc if left alone. It will be interesting to see how our smaller forwards match up on these guys, and if we structure up at all to try and reduce their rebound.

Around the Ground: Lions midfield vs Roos midfield

The midfield seems to be a much more even battle on paper – North has a solid midfield group, if lacking a little depth. Jy Simpkin is sniffing at the heels of McCluggage and Taranto to be labelled the best player in the 2016 draft, and he is ably supported by Hugh Greenwood and Davies-Uniacke, who was best on ground by a mile in the first half against Hawthorn in Round 1. Davies-Uniacke was subbed off early in Round 2 though, so may not be available.

Whilst these names more than hold their own, where the Lions should get on top is through our depth – with Neale, Lyons, Bailey, McCluggage, Berry, Zorko and pinch-hitters in Rayner and Cockatoo possibly floating through as well, we should be able to take the game away from them.

North have two very good ruckmen though – Goldstein is in the twilight of his career but still deserves respect for what he can do (North finished 5th for hitouts in 2021), and Xerri is the up and comer that’s looked good in 2022 so far. North finished 16th for clearances in 2021, but with Greenwood entering the line-up I would imagine their inside game has the capacity to step up a notch in 2022.

Around the Ground: Lions defence vs Roos attack

North has one of the key forwards I reckon we’ll be talking about alongside Harry McKay for the next 10 years in Nick Larkey. He’s kicked a few bags now, and seems to have kicked 2-3 a game against Brisbane over the last few years. Coming off 6 goals against West Coast, he’ll be feeling pretty good about his chances of taking it up to Harris Andrews. Meanwhile, Marcus Adams has been brilliant the last two weeks, and it is refreshing to see Andrews, Adams and Gardiner forming a solid defensive unit this year, even if all three still have their cringe-worthy moments.

I’d suggest Andrews will have first crack at Larkey, Adams will take the resting ruck in Goldstein/Xerri (assuming Coleman-Jones stays in the twos), and Gardiner will take Zurhaar. Zurhaar is the one I think could be a danger player for us – he’s looked like breaking open the last few games against us, and if he gets on top of Gardiner he could easily keep North in it.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that Brisbane are in the middle of a premiership window, and although North have a quality list rebuild in progress (and a very good coach at the helm – we miss you Nobes), realistically the Lions need to snap the pattern of “just doing enough”, and send a message to the other challengers for 2022.

We stack up well on every line against the Roos, and if our midfield gets on top early, our forwards should have ample opportunity to kick goals.

Predictions

Changes: Robinson to come in for Sharp.

Rayner and Zurhaar to both kick 4, Brisbane by 35 after being up by three points at quarter time.
 
Fantastic write up Aza.

Interesting that North have always troubled us.

It's difficult to see that happening at the Gabba looking through the prospective line ups . But we have been a bit sluggish lately.

Where we have really improved is with Daniher down forward ,fit and firing and Adams down back likewise. Two strong, serious players.

Where we were hoping to improve with Rayner ,Cockatoo et al has yet to materialise. But early days.

I actually think we missed Robbo last week with his grunt. I also think the Zorko move to the backline will be seen as a masterstroke over the next few weeks.

I hesitate to say this but North aren't all that good and we should bury them . Now that we have 2 weeks under our belt.
 

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Brisbane Lions vs North Melbourne

Saturday 2nd April, 7pm Brisbane time @ Gabba


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(photo credit: Murray Valley Standard)

Form Guide

Round 1:
  • Brisbane 11.14.80 def Port Adelaide 10.9.69
  • Hawthorn 11.12.78 def North Melbourne 8.10.58
Brisbane came out sluggish in Round 1 against another 2021 top-four finisher in Port Adelaide. What became a defensive slog for three quarters became an offensive blitz in the last quarter, as we piled on five goals to come out on top. Any win against another side tipped to make the top four is one to take to the bank.

North Melbourne kicked off their year against another side tipped to miss the finals in Hawthorn. North were on top of a scrappy game early, building a 20-point lead halfway through the second quarter, only for Hawthorn to stamp their authority and take the game away from them. North faced some backlash for their decision to play three ruckmen (Xerri, Goldstein, and Coleman-Jones), and whilst Noble backed the decision post-match, Coleman-Jones was dropped for the following game.

Round 2:
  • Essendon 10.15.75 def by Brisbane 15.7.97
  • North Melbourne 10.14.74 def West Coast 8.11.59
Round 2 was a tale of two halves for Brisbane. A very disappointing first quarter against Essendon, who came out firing after being embarrassed by Geelong in Round 1, had the Lions playing from behind, looking stagnant and reactive in defense, and mediocre with the ball in hand. Led from the front by Neale with 41 disposals and 2 goals, we worked our way into the game and won by 22 points.

North Melbourne were in a lose-lose position from the outset in Round 2 – up against a depleted West Coast side that had 17 AFL-listed players to choose from, most unfairly predicted a thumping win against a side with little synergy or AFL experience. The Roos did enough, winning by 15 and not ever really looking in trouble, but it was a dismal game that had very few shining stars – one being Nick Larkey’s six goals.

Past Results

Round 14 2021: North Melbourne 6.9.45 def by Brisbane 9.14.68
  • Lions best: Lyons 36 disposals, McCluggage 31 disposals & 0.3, Neale 30 disposals & 1.0
  • Roos best: Larkey 3.1, Ziebell 32 disposals, Simpkin 31 disposals
Round 12 2020: North Melbourne 8.4.52 def by Brisbane 7.11.53
  • Lions best: Neale 24 disposals, McCarthy 2.1, McInerney 2.0 & 24 hitouts
  • Roos best: Anderson 29 disposals, Simpkin 26 disposals, Larkey 2.2
Round 18 2019: Brisbane 12.15.87 def North Melbourne 12.3.75
  • Lions best: Lyons 30 disposals & 2.1, Christensen 3.1, McCluggage 18 disposals & 2.0
  • Roos best: Higgins 27 disposals & 1.0, Brown 3.1, Cunnington 21 disposals & 1.0
Round 2 2019: North Melbourne 13.9.87 def by Brisbane 16.11.107
  • Lions best: Neale 43 disposals, Rich 27 disposals, Cameron 4.1
  • Roos best: Cunnington 36 disposals & 1.0, Higgins 38 disposals, Brown 3.2
We’ve had some close games against North Melbourne over the past few years, which is an interesting contrast to our respective ladder positions over that time. In 2019, a free kick to Oscar McInerney in the dying minutes (that the AFL later announced was incorrectly paid) sealed a win for the Lions in Daniel Rich’s 200th game. That year we marched to our first top 4 finish in 15 years, whilst the Roos slumped to 12th. In 2020, Cam Zurhaar’s kick after the siren got the Roos within a point of the Lions, again a very close finish given we finished 2nd that year, and the Roos finished 17th.

Last year, we met mid-season in our first game after the bye. Having lost to the eventual premiers Melbourne in a disappointing fashion in the game leading into the bye (up by 20 at half-time only to be rolled comprehensively in the second half), we were expected to make a statement against the bottom of the ladder side, after two weeks of licking our wounds. Well, the Lions emerged from the bye… and failed to make a statement. Two points down at half-time and lucky not to be further down, a four-goal run either side of the three-quarter time break got us home by 23 points in an unconvincing manner.

This seems to be a theme of our last few games against North Melbourne – we have won our last four games against the Kangaroos, but none of them have been in an impressive manner, given our contrasting fortunes over the last three years.

This then begs the question – why are we so underwhelming against the Kangaroos? I come to you with zero possible hypotheses, outside of our inability to truly put teams to the sword over the past few years.



Around the Ground: Lions attack vs Roos defence

North’s defence has lost its main rock in Robbie Tarrant, who defected to the Tigers in the off-season. Replacing him is Aidan Corr, who missed all of last season with some form of toe infection. Their other key defensive post is none other than Josh Walker, who has made a decent fist of his third crack in the AFL, but comes with the same limitations we saw during his time at Brisbane.

Given Corr is 194cm and from my understanding more of a Gardiner-style talls/smalls defender, I’d imagine Walker will take Daniher, giving us an opportunity to expose Walker if Daniher is given the chance. This begs an interesting dilemma for the Roos, as they will then be left with Corr to man up against the resting ruck in McInerney/Fort, Lachie Young (at 189cm) up against McStay, and possibly the 23-gamer Aiden Bonar (the medical sub against West Coast, but played most of the game after Davies-Uniacke was subbed off early) against Cameron.

If Brisbane can lower the eyes and give our forwards repeat entries, there seems to be an opportunity to put some scoreboard pressure on the Roos.

North’s strength in their defence is their rebounding – Aaron Hall and Jack Ziebell both being reborn as rebounding half-backs in 2021 was quite successful, and Luke McDonald is their best and fairest winner from 2020. Whilst Hall is not the most efficient kick by boot, he takes damaging options often enough to cause havoc if left alone. It will be interesting to see how our smaller forwards match up on these guys, and if we structure up at all to try and reduce their rebound.

Around the Ground: Lions midfield vs Roos midfield

The midfield seems to be a much more even battle on paper – North has a solid midfield group, if lacking a little depth. Jy Simpkin is sniffing at the heels of McCluggage and Taranto to be labelled the best player in the 2016 draft, and he is ably supported by Hugh Greenwood and Davies-Uniacke, who was best on ground by a mile in the first half against Hawthorn in Round 1. Davies-Uniacke was subbed off early in Round 2 though, so may not be available.

Whilst these names more than hold their own, where the Lions should get on top is through our depth – with Neale, Lyons, Bailey, McCluggage, Berry, Zorko and pinch-hitters in Rayner and Cockatoo possibly floating through as well, we should be able to take the game away from them.

North have two very good ruckmen though – Goldstein is in the twilight of his career but still deserves respect for what he can do (North finished 5th for hitouts in 2021), and Xerri is the up and comer that’s looked good in 2022 so far. North finished 16th for clearances in 2021, but with Greenwood entering the line-up I would imagine their inside game has the capacity to step up a notch in 2022.

Around the Ground: Lions defence vs Roos attack

North has one of the key forwards I reckon we’ll be talking about alongside Harry McKay for the next 10 years in Nick Larkey. He’s kicked a few bags now, and seems to have kicked 2-3 a game against Brisbane over the last few years. Coming off 6 goals against West Coast, he’ll be feeling pretty good about his chances of taking it up to Harris Andrews. Meanwhile, Marcus Adams has been brilliant the last two weeks, and it is refreshing to see Andrews, Adams and Gardiner forming a solid defensive unit this year, even if all three still have their cringe-worthy moments.

I’d suggest Andrews will have first crack at Larkey, Adams will take the resting ruck in Goldstein/Xerri (assuming Coleman-Jones stays in the twos), and Gardiner will take Zurhaar. Zurhaar is the one I think could be a danger player for us – he’s looked like breaking open the last few games against us, and if he gets on top of Gardiner he could easily keep North in it.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that Brisbane are in the middle of a premiership window, and although North have a quality list rebuild in progress (and a very good coach at the helm – we miss you Nobes), realistically the Lions need to snap the pattern of “just doing enough”, and send a message to the other challengers for 2022.

We stack up well on every line against the Roos, and if our midfield gets on top early, our forwards should have ample opportunity to kick goals.

Predictions

Changes: Robinson to come in for Sharp.

Rayner and Zurhaar to both kick 4, Brisbane by 35 after being up by three points at quarter time.


Nice review!
 
Our midfield is decimated this week.

No

Cunners
LDU
Thomas
Anderson
(Or Phillips who is only a second year player)

We’ll get McKay back for Daniher

We’ve looked like a team down on confidence and feeling the pressure of getting a win early before a tough next 4 weeks (lions, swans, dogs, cats). Maybe that releases the pressure a bit as we are a million to one shot this week with our outs.

Within 5 goals and I’ll be happy.
 
Nice preview, good work. Was aware of our recent average* record against them. * Average given our respective windows.

Honestly, unless it’s belting rain (?) we should be beating North by over 39.5 points, with 60+ being some chance. Sure they were a couple of rotations down but geez North should have put that Eagles team away on the weekend. If we don’t win by over 39.5 (pending our final weather) I’ll be disappointed.
 
Hopefully, the boys can put these rough starts behind them and come out breathing fire against the roos, especially if LDU and Tarryn Thomas aren't playing.
 
Great review Aza

I think there is always a bit of danger when you play a team that knows the inner workings of your strategy (Noble). However I think North are just a bit raw to really compete over 4 qtrs and this should be a comfortable win.

I'd really like to see the lions start strong this time around - we shouldn't make a habit of coming from behind and we have a good chance of breaking that bogey this week.

On a side note - I really hope Noble goes well at North. He did a lot of good things for our club.
 
Great review Aza

I think there is always a bit of danger when you play a team that knows the inner workings of your strategy (Noble). However I think North are just a bit raw to really compete over 4 qtrs and this should be a comfortable win.

I'd really like to see the lions start strong this time around - we shouldn't make a habit of coming from behind and we have a good chance of breaking that bogey this week.

On a side note - I really hope Noble goes well at North. He did a lot of good things for our club.

I figure the Zorko move and new players will have changed our game enough that Nobel's inside knowledge won't be as powerful as previously.

And i reckon Fagan is not interested in losing to his old off-sider. He'll have the boys at focused fever pitch and it will be a start to end demolition.

At least I hope so
 
The last 4 times we've played North we've been flat until the last minutes of those games, would be nice to step on the gas early and annihilate them finally.
 
The last 4 times we've played North we've been flat until the last minutes of those games, would be nice to step on the gas early and annihilate them finally.
Would love to see this, but there's nothing I've seen from the first 2 games to suggest it will happen. I thought we were a bit casual against both Port and Essendon, like the team never expected to lose. This is different to believing you will win, and I think if we don't lost that mentality we will lose games that we shouldn't.
We seem to be just doing enough, and you can get caught.

It's not lost on me that it is only R3 and we are 2-0. If the team go out and blow North off the park, then we will see that it was just blowing out the dirty diesel in rounds 1 and 2.
 

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Would love to see this, but there's nothing I've seen from the first 2 games to suggest it will happen. I thought we were a bit casual against both Port and Essendon, like the team never expected to lose. This is different to believing you will win, and I think if we don't lost that mentality we will lose games that we shouldn't.
We seem to be just doing enough, and you can get caught.

It's not lost on me that it is only R3 and we are 2-0. If the team go out and blow North off the park, then we will see that it was just blowing out the dirty diesel in rounds 1 and 2.
I'm sorry, I just struggle with the disconnect between your member name, avatar, and team supported...

But I do agree.
 
I'm sorry, I just struggle with the disconnect between your member name, avatar, and team supported...

But I do agree.
Haha, can see how that would be confusing.
Grew up in Ireland supporting the lions from afar based on a Sunday morning highlights show we used to see every week.
Always admired big Jim for what he achieved on and off the field and his doco was probably fairly fresh when I set up my account.

What started as a tenuous enough link has grown over the last 14 years in Aus. Have been present at my fair share of Lions hammerings to cement that original link. It takes all sorts!

Anyway, bttt - given NM's sparse tall defender stocks, and our 2 ruckmen plus Joe (and McStay) is there a chance Nobes goes back to the 3 ruckmen?
 
Li
Kangas have a few key outs + difficulty scoring + us having many avenues to goal = potential bloodbath.

We should win this by 10 goals minimum.
But if they win by 60 it still won’t be enough for some.
 
Larkey will probably kick a bag though. Harris seems way below his career best form.
Harris just doesn't look interested. Hopefully, he can return to form, similar to the way he did against Charlie Dixon last year after he got monstered by Mckay the week earlier.
 
Harris just doesn't look interested. Hopefully, he can return to form, similar to the way he did against Charlie Dixon last year after he got monstered by Mckay the week earlier.

Not sure what you mean by this, but I tend to agree with others that he is trying to do too much and looks much better when he simplifies his output, eg to just playing his opponent. He does not look disinterested.
 
Harris Andrews is a much better player when he plays with some aggression and puts some body on his opponent.
Sometimes he goes into games a little too relaxed and gives his opponent too much space, gets beaten early and then changes his game after getting a bit pissed off about being beaten and then tends to play closer and with more aggression.
I also think he struggles against taller opponents.
 
We have over recent years expected big wins over North and have usually been happy in the end to get away with a hard earned victory, with Oscar being our saviour on at least two occasions.
I will be happy with a solid boring victory.
 
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