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Round 4 2011 - as a neutral fan
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Patch Adams
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because their are more Essendon supporters than North supporters...
Try and find someone that doesn't have a soft spot for Essendon that is excited to see the team play, they are currently one of the most boring sides to watch due to limited players that are must see's, North have one of the most exciting players in the comp with Brent Harvey, who is your biggest draw...
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I'm more interested in our Round 1 game right now. We really need to get a win on the board early in the season before Round 4 so that the crowd against the Pies is somewhere near potential. Whether it be Round 1, 2 or 3 at least 1 win would be nice. Time to stop the rot against Carlton and put up a fight and we have no excuses at this point with a full squad to choose from hopefully. That means we'll have 3 talls at each end of the ground and a fully fit midfield to choose from. Time to put in a good effort Round 1, whether we win or lose, then give the Saints and Hawks a nudge in the next 2 games 
Friday Night 7.40pm @ MCG
Richmond V Collingwood
Saturday 2.10pm @ MCG
Carlton V Essendon
Which of these two matches would you be more likely to attend?
Which will draw the most?
Which has the greater rivlarly?
It's going to be a BIG 48hrs at the G.
Collingwood attracts more neutral fans and opposition fans than any other team in the competition. If Richmond get off to a decent start, and especially considering the Friday night fixture, I'd expect the Collingwood game to attract a better crowd.
Come on mate, that's fair.
Everyone has a soft spot for clubs that can't win the main prize.
See Bulldogs, Saints, Freo, Melbourne, Richmond
I wouldnt really argue with brad. It's pretty clear he goes to the games just to look around at the huge crowd and touch himself that there's such a huge crowd.
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I've never heard of anyone going to a game just to see Brent Harvey.
Boomer hasn't been one of the most exciting players for quite a while now. (If ever really)
Boomer hasn't been one of the most exciting players for quite a while now. (If ever really)
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Well of course. However, Collingwood's two most experienced players, Leigh Brown has played 223 matches, and Ben Johnson has played 208 matches which increased the average age and experience a lot. Both players have been great team players, but neither are match winners that are irreplaceable or certainties to play every match with the new substitute rule this year. Richmond don't have Ben Cousins since their last match either though.
That's right because I went by the last matches that both Collingwood (Grand Final Replay) and Richmond (Round 22) played, and Collingwood on average were only about twelve months older. That said, both Andrew Krakouer and Chris Tarrant at the expense of Jarryd Blair and Tyson Goldsack should raise Collingwood's average age, but to have two young premiership players as depth is still good for the future.That was last year
If you look again, then you will see that I was responding to a post that mentioned age only, and not experience. Even then, it can also come down to who the most experienced players are, and their value to the team.
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This would be the same argument crows or other fans use for not attending port matches, right? Just because you guys missed out on setting a tradition whether by being non-victorian, or by being crap for 50 years doesnt negate the traditions in itself.
Going to the match is about atmosphere, not necessarily quality of the game, although that will no doubt help. Richmond v Carlton round 1 has atmosphere, more so since the Tigers have some optimism and are finding their way, the Blues are looking to get somewhere. Carlton v Essendon could go other way, as it did last year - and its guaranteed to have atmosphere. Thats what 100+ years of rivalry will do for you. No less than a Carlton v Collingwood match will do the same even though the Pies completely towelled us twice in 2010.
Of course you could rather be at Aami Stadium with half the stadium covered in plastic so that the crowd looks bigger than something even a north supporter points at and says "what the f...". If a neutral supporter had to go to a match, do you go to one where the atmosphere will be awesome, and the game ordinary, or do you go to a quality game with no atmosphere. If its the later, you may as well stay home and watch it on tv.
Friday Night 7.40pm @ MCG
Richmond V Collingwood
Saturday 2.10pm @ MCG
Carlton V Essendon
Which of these two matches would you be more likely to attend?
Which will draw the most?
Which has the greater rivlarly?
It's going to be a BIG 48hrs at the G.
Which will draw the most? It will depend of which pairing have the strongest starts to the season. If Richmond beat Carlton and push on it'll be Pies V Tigers. If the Tiges are up and running with a couple of wins then Tiges V flag holding Pies could be simply huge. If Carlton beat Richmond and push on and if the Hird effect is positive and the Bombers go into the weekend with a couple of wins then it'll be Blues V Bombers.
Which is the greater rivalry? Neither. It depends on who is up and about as is always the case in the Six Big 4 match ups.
round 4 - friday night - i know im looking forward to the previous week - friday night round 3 - play carlscum - raise the 2010 flag - packed house - wipe their faces in it.
Friday Night 7.40pm @ MCG
Richmond V Collingwood
Saturday 2.10pm @ MCG
Carlton V Essendon
Which of these two matches would you be more likely to attend?
Which will draw the most?
Which has the greater rivlarly?
It's going to be a BIG 48hrs at the G.
A fiver says 70k on fri night, 65 on Sat, weather dependant, conditional on ladder positions, and the moon.
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Krak's first game against Richmond = Increased interest.
Carlton (hopeless) Vs Essendon (even worse) is just going to be a shoot out. BBoth sides are so terrible defensively that the games are actually pretty fun to watch ... for lolz.
Carlton (hopeless) Vs Essendon (even worse) is just going to be a shoot out. BBoth sides are so terrible defensively that the games are actually pretty fun to watch ... for lolz.
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Agree with most that neither game is appealing to a neutral supporter. A bit off topic but the hawks vs cats games since in the past two years have all been fantastic games even though we have lost on all occasions. The cats game is really the H&A game I look forward to most.
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I really don't understand it. Nobody I know cares for those matches and Essendon-Carlton matches over the last 5 years have been some the least spirited and poorly skilled matches I have ever seen. There's no great passion, there's no great rivalry, the players really didn't care at all last few times I saw them play. Like I said in an earlier post, the commentators were likening the intensity and skill of the first Essendon-Carlton match to under 14's domestic football
I suppose this thread is just a bunch of hot air from certain supporters trying to make their increasingly irrelevant sides seem like they are important again.
That's my guess
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I really don't understand it. Nobody I know cares for those matches and Essendon-Carlton matches over the last 5 years have been some the least spirited and poorly skilled matches I have ever seen. There's no great passion, there's no great rivalry, the players really didn't care at all last few times I saw them play. Like I said in an earlier post, the commentators were likening the intensity and skill of the first Essendon-Carlton match to under 14's domestic football
I suppose this thread is just a bunch of hot air from certain supporters trying to make their increasingly irrelevant sides seem like they are important again.
That's my guess
Well this team with such poor skills beat your team by 7 goals the first time we played last year and if it wasn't for a couple of arsey goals by Buddy we would have made it 4 wins in a row. But of course you'll have you excuses for that now won't you.
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No excuses here mate. We are shit. But this topic isn't about Hawthorn, nor is it about Essendon's poor skills. My posts were stating that Carlton v Essendon is an irrelevant fixture, not just in the general publics mind, but also the players minds from the two sides. The lack of effort from the players in some of those recent Essendon v Carlton games has been appalling. They don't care about each other. It's not 1945 anymore.
For me personally I haven't even thought about the Richmond V Collingwood game. The game VS Carlton in R1 is all that interests me until its out of the way and then the build up to the Pies game will have relevance.
