Preview Round 9, 2022: St.Kilda v Geelong - Marvel Stadium, Saturday 14th May, 4:35PM AEST

Who Wins?

  • Saints

    Votes: 29 61.7%
  • Cats

    Votes: 18 38.3%

  • Total voters
    47

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Agree to an extent with what your saying, but Joyce would be the only feasible option for this and Battle has been very good so wouldn't leave him out. On Joyce, he has been very good for Sandy tho

Joyce has been very good with Sandi this year. From the games I have watched this season, he is playing the best he has every played at present.

If we wanted another key defensive option he would be way in front of Adams at this stage.
 
Joyce has been very good with Sandi this year. From the games I have watched this season, he is playing the best he has every played at present.

If we wanted another key defensive option he would be way in front of Adams at this stage.
Yep, I wouldn't mind him getting a game either, but not sure we can fit Doogs,Joyce, Battle, Wilkie all in the same backline.
 

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Very defeatist stuff from the support this week. I get it, it's what a lifetime of following this club conditions you for.

The whole pre-season mantra of 'Why not us?' still applies though. We've got the pieces, we've seen what they can do when they're firing.

Richmond broke the drought in 2017.

Richmond after round eight that year were 5 - 3, with 20 points, 7th on the ladder with a percentage of 108.2%.

They'd been annihilated in round six by the Crows to the tune of 76 points. Lost a close one to the dogs the week later. Lost to the Dockers at home a week after that. They even lost to the Giants in round nine.

We're on 20 points with a percentage of 117.

Winnable game this week.

Why not us?
 
Where did all this Adams stuff come from , He is miles of playing and as for being a key position Backman he has a lot of work to do , just being able to take the odd nice mark now and again he would get taken to the cleaners by any key forward ATM
 
Marshall to chb. Highmore in for paton or webster.
NWM probably needs to miss this game, have been watching him closely and i'll give him a little slack beacuse of his age but he appears to avoiding body contact when he needs to tackle just a small observation he will get better but! not against Geelong this week they will exploit it,bring him back for the Adelaide game.
Hope its only temporary.
 
Id love to know how many of his kicks hit the target as i cant remember many , he looked pretty rusty to me
You'd expect him to be rusty but with Sandy having the bye and a must win game against Geelong I'd like to see him picked.
 
I think the lesson from today is play our own game. We voluntarily removed our own strengths from the first bounce and it backfired spectacularly.

We saw how damaging Hill, Sinclair and NWM can be when we play our own brand.
Stop bombing to a static King.
Stop mentally switching off in front of goal.
Stop allowing their winger to run completely unchecked.

Hawkins, Duncan and the nippy smalls in Stengle and Close will need to be quelled.



Be great if King actually led, again and again. Dees where good at filling up space last week but he just doesn’t provide any movement a lot of the time.


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Be great if King actually led, again and again. Dees where good at filling up space last week but he just doesn’t provide any movement a lot of the time.


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My big issue with King as a supposedly mobile tall, is his lack of hard leading as a FF- he seems to fall back into playing behind his man too easily when he is not getting the ball. It's hard to come down the ground into the forward half and not see anyone demanding the ball- this is where bombing creeps in. I would like to see Sharman in the forward half as another option. I actually think Membrey should be at FF, but greater minds than me who are well-paid, are there to work this out.
 
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Be great if King actually led, again and again. Dees where good at filling up space last week but he just doesn’t provide any movement a lot of the time.


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It really does seem like King prefers the ball on his head so he can use his height. That just isn’t great when he can be double and triple teamed.

It’s why we should have Sharman in the side. Especially with Membery not demanding the ball.
 
In:
Lienert - reward form, can he play small?
Highmore - see above
Billings - for Butler
Owens - reward form

Out:
Butler (inj)
Long (form)
Windhager or NWM (very stiff for Owens, rotate these three)
Webster (form)


Lienert adds kicking skills and smarts to the backline, something we sorely missed.

Highmore adds an intercept threat, to help out Battle and Highmore with Hawkins/Cameron.

Only risk is if we're too tall, if one of Lienert or Highmore can play small though, it'll work.

Last thing will be a tag on Stewart. Aerobically Wood could do that. In an aerial sense, Highmore would be a good match too.

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Be great if King actually led, again and again. Dees where good at filling up space last week but he just doesn’t provide any movement a lot of the time.


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King needs to get better at leading I agree but he is improving in that area and he's not that bad.

This wasn't the issue on the weekend. He didn't have any room to move anyway.
 
King needs to get better at leading I agree but he is improving in that area and he's not that bad.

This wasn't the issue on the weekend. He didn't have any room to move anyway.

He still could try to create a foil and draw a few defenders to him to open up one on ones for Membrey, Snags, Marshall/Ryder et al. Just standing there occasionally pointing to a spot is crap.


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I seem to remember King kicking a few goals after marking on the lead

A lot of it comes down to game plan though. It's not as easy to find space to lead into for a deep forward as it once was.

The Giants game in Canberra was evidence of this. He had 8 shots on goal, quite a few of his marks were on the lead but the Giants managed to push him wide on most occasions

I'm sure if we pushed him up the ground he'd be able to find more footy on the lead but he's too important to us as a deep forward
 
He still could try to create a foil and draw a few defenders to him to open up one on ones for Membrey, Snags, Marshall/Ryder et al. Just standing there occasionally pointing to a spot is crap.


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The issue is that when King has had those huge gamebreaking quarters, it was by doing the same thing. Very small leads, maybe 1 or 2 repeats, but mostly just kicked to his advantage and he takes a 3 step run and jump.

I don't see King ever being the long searching lead up type forward. Membrey is not that type of forward either, as he also prefers to mark it from a standing start. It's why I would love to see Sharman in the side, who is the perfect complement and could give us an important point of difference.
 
The issue is that when King has had those huge gamebreaking quarters, it was by doing the same thing. Very small leads, maybe 1 or 2 repeats, but mostly just kicked to his advantage and he takes a 3 step run and jump.

I don't see King ever being the long searching lead up type forward. Membrey is not that type of forward either, as he also prefers to mark it from a standing start. It's why I would love to see Sharman in the side, who is the perfect complement and could give us an important point of difference.

He doesn’t need to perform long, searching leads. I agree. Just a few double backs to create some movement at least. I was sitting in the pocket on Sunday and I found his movement to be sub par at best. You’re not going to give yourself much of a chance against solid defenders like Lever and May without unrewarded effort.


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Pressure on the ball

Take the first chance to move the ball forward

Kick straight at goals

We win this by lots.

If we fail in pressure than Hawkins and Cameron will cut us up.

If we play a possession kick to kick game, thats Geelongs game, they are better at it.

No need to recall past nightmares for the last point.
 
You'd expect him to be rusty but with Sandy having the bye and a must win game against Geelong I'd like to see him picked.
nup too rusty. pick players who are in form. he just came back from long term injury. needs acouple of weeks in vfl.
 
I seem to remember King kicking a few goals after marking on the lead

A lot of it comes down to game plan though. It's not as easy to find space to lead into for a deep forward as it once was.

The Giants game in Canberra was evidence of this. He had 8 shots on goal, quite a few of his marks were on the lead but the Giants managed to push him wide on most occasions

I'm sure if we pushed him up the ground he'd be able to find more footy on the lead but he's too important to us as a deep forward


I heard someone reviewing the Dees match and they were saying that we still like to get it out the back for cheap goals but against the best they dry up. I think they were suggesting it's structural and that that's a deliberate plan. Have King sit under the ball and mark it or drop it out the back. It worked better with Hayes able to do that too. He was very good at both.
 
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