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RussellEbertHandball
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No wonder you can relate to Port and its supporters so well.
You have gone thru the glory days then the long decay, and just waiting for some one to grab the bull by the horns and turn it all around, after having moments of hope and players who tease they might finally win the big one, but then dont deliver when it really counts.
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It has a pattern. It’s ridiculous!
It has a pattern. It’s ridiculous!
RussellEbertHandball
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Recently GremioPower made a comment that the USA is a soccer nation, just that they don't notice it.
I agreed with him and said they will over the next decade, match the revenue generated per game by NHL and MLB games, but wont catch them on total revenue as they play so many more games in a season than MLS does.
Further proof is if you look at average attendance per game in the national leagues around the world, the MLS are 7th highest, behind the Big 5 Euro leagues and Germany's Bundesliga 2.
Brasil's Serie A might have a larger average attendance, but I only have 2019 figures for that comp and they were a couple of hundred more than the 2023 MLS average. The Chinese Super League and Mexico's Liga MX average attendance have been reduced post Covid.
Now the MLS has 29 teams and not 20 like most Euro and South American leagues do. Germany's Bundesliga is the major exception which only has 18 teams, but the MLS' total attendance in their 2023 season of 10.9 mil, was bigger than France's Ligue 1's 2022-23 season total of 9.0mil and will soon surpass Italy's Serie A and Spain's La Liga's 11.2xmil total attendances.
They wont surpass Germany's 13.2m 44k average and EPL's 14.5m and 38k average for at least couple of decades, I would have thought.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures
Last night I watched 2 videos about stadiums in the MLS. The first gives a great account of US soccer history and growth and how playing in half full NFL stadium on astro turf and different rules to most Euro leagues didn't help them advance.
The great break thru came when MLS Commisser Don Garber in the mid naughties pushed for teams to build soccer specific stadiums and would be smaller than NFL capacity, but regulation FIFA preferred pitches of 105m x 68m and rules. He made it compulsory that expansion teams had to pay their licence fee as well as sign guarantees that they would build soccer specific stadiums.
There are a handful of exemptions of teams that play in reduced capacity NFL stadiums, but because they are newer facilities and built with soccer in mind, they are given approval to play there. A couple of teams have proposals to move out of those stadiums. One is the New York City FC which is building a $700+mil 25,000 seater in Queens and move away from Yankee Stadium.
As the AFL discovered when it came to stadium yields in the mid 2000's, bigger isn't always better, or as the narrator says in the video, less is more.
Club's reducing the supply of seats whilst building the game and demand for those seats, means higher prices can be charged as the game grows thru the recruiting better players and coaches helped, but having control of costs, having a better atmosphere in a 25k to 30k soccer specific stadiums than a soulless 70k stadium, as well as selling more merchandise and food and beverage (concessions as the yanks call it) in stadiums owned by the clubs and not an NFL team owner, meant the clubs became profitable and could attract better players, and with a salary cap, MLS teams have become financially sustainable, compared to Euro and South American clubs who spend ridiculous amounts on player transfers.
Like the AFL has hit up governments for $$$ for new stadiums, so have the private owners of MLS teams hit up their local and state governments, who compared to Australia, have a lot more taxing powers than their Aussie equivalents.
MLS wont attract the best players in their absolute prime, and become a better league than the best Euro leagues, but whilst financial stability is a key driver of the League and MLS Commission head quarters, they will continue to have steadier and more consistent growth.
The free market USA, when it comes to soccer, is a heavily regulated league with salary cap, limited licences and no promotion and relegation, ie oligopolies, whereas as the more socialist Europe, runs a free market model leagues, with promotion and relegation, no salary caps, all having the possibility to massively affecting the viability of teams.
This 2nd video starts with the 7 NFL stadiums used by MLS teams. 2 teams will build their own stadiums in the coming years, New York City FC and the New England Revolution, and 2 teams love their NFL stadiums because they are well set up for soccer, Seattle and Atlanta. The other 3 will have some thinking to do.
Around 5.20 minute mark they start going thru the soccer specific stadiums. The first 6 minutes of the soccer specific stadiums there is nothing amazing about them, but after that there are some great looking venues.
I agreed with him and said they will over the next decade, match the revenue generated per game by NHL and MLB games, but wont catch them on total revenue as they play so many more games in a season than MLS does.
Further proof is if you look at average attendance per game in the national leagues around the world, the MLS are 7th highest, behind the Big 5 Euro leagues and Germany's Bundesliga 2.
Brasil's Serie A might have a larger average attendance, but I only have 2019 figures for that comp and they were a couple of hundred more than the 2023 MLS average. The Chinese Super League and Mexico's Liga MX average attendance have been reduced post Covid.
Now the MLS has 29 teams and not 20 like most Euro and South American leagues do. Germany's Bundesliga is the major exception which only has 18 teams, but the MLS' total attendance in their 2023 season of 10.9 mil, was bigger than France's Ligue 1's 2022-23 season total of 9.0mil and will soon surpass Italy's Serie A and Spain's La Liga's 11.2xmil total attendances.
They wont surpass Germany's 13.2m 44k average and EPL's 14.5m and 38k average for at least couple of decades, I would have thought.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sports_attendance_figures
Last night I watched 2 videos about stadiums in the MLS. The first gives a great account of US soccer history and growth and how playing in half full NFL stadium on astro turf and different rules to most Euro leagues didn't help them advance.
The great break thru came when MLS Commisser Don Garber in the mid naughties pushed for teams to build soccer specific stadiums and would be smaller than NFL capacity, but regulation FIFA preferred pitches of 105m x 68m and rules. He made it compulsory that expansion teams had to pay their licence fee as well as sign guarantees that they would build soccer specific stadiums.
There are a handful of exemptions of teams that play in reduced capacity NFL stadiums, but because they are newer facilities and built with soccer in mind, they are given approval to play there. A couple of teams have proposals to move out of those stadiums. One is the New York City FC which is building a $700+mil 25,000 seater in Queens and move away from Yankee Stadium.
As the AFL discovered when it came to stadium yields in the mid 2000's, bigger isn't always better, or as the narrator says in the video, less is more.
Club's reducing the supply of seats whilst building the game and demand for those seats, means higher prices can be charged as the game grows thru the recruiting better players and coaches helped, but having control of costs, having a better atmosphere in a 25k to 30k soccer specific stadiums than a soulless 70k stadium, as well as selling more merchandise and food and beverage (concessions as the yanks call it) in stadiums owned by the clubs and not an NFL team owner, meant the clubs became profitable and could attract better players, and with a salary cap, MLS teams have become financially sustainable, compared to Euro and South American clubs who spend ridiculous amounts on player transfers.
Like the AFL has hit up governments for $$$ for new stadiums, so have the private owners of MLS teams hit up their local and state governments, who compared to Australia, have a lot more taxing powers than their Aussie equivalents.
MLS wont attract the best players in their absolute prime, and become a better league than the best Euro leagues, but whilst financial stability is a key driver of the League and MLS Commission head quarters, they will continue to have steadier and more consistent growth.
The free market USA, when it comes to soccer, is a heavily regulated league with salary cap, limited licences and no promotion and relegation, ie oligopolies, whereas as the more socialist Europe, runs a free market model leagues, with promotion and relegation, no salary caps, all having the possibility to massively affecting the viability of teams.
This 2nd video starts with the 7 NFL stadiums used by MLS teams. 2 teams will build their own stadiums in the coming years, New York City FC and the New England Revolution, and 2 teams love their NFL stadiums because they are well set up for soccer, Seattle and Atlanta. The other 3 will have some thinking to do.
Around 5.20 minute mark they start going thru the soccer specific stadiums. The first 6 minutes of the soccer specific stadiums there is nothing amazing about them, but after that there are some great looking venues.
RussellEbertHandball
Flick pass expert
FFA have signed a deal with 10 / Paramount + for all Socceroos' and Matildas' games until 2028.
Football Australia and Paramount Australia today announced a landmark multi-year and multi-platform agreement to broadcast an extended package of CommBank Matildas and Subway Socceroos’ games on Network 10 and Paramount+ in Australia, through to 2028.
Paramount Australia (parent company of Network 10 and Paramount+) will be the home of the CommBank Matildas and Subway Socceroos in Australia, including the AFC Women’s Asian Cup 2026™ being hosted in Australia and AFC Asian Cup Saudi Arabia 2027™.
More than 100 international football games featuring either the CommBank Matildas or Subway Socceroos will be telecast live with at least 50 games on free-to-air television.
In addition, Paramount Australia have acquired exclusive rights to the FIFA Women’s World Cup Brazil 2027™, in a deal brokered in partnership with IMG.
New package also includes all CommBank Matildas and Subway Socceroos’ friendly matches, all AFC Tournaments (including AFC Asian Qualifiers™), and the Australia Cup Finals through to 2028.
Under the agreement, Network 10 and Paramount+ will become the exclusive home to all Australian Women’s Senior National Team matches for the next four years, including the FIFA Women’s World Cup Brazil 2027™, up until the LA 2028 Summer Olympics, and the Men’s Senior National Team matches including all AFC Asian Qualifiers™ (FIFA World Cup 2026™ Asian Qualifiers Final Round) except the FIFA World Cup 2026™
For the first time ever, this landmark agreement brings together rights for one broadcaster for the AFC Women’s Asian Cup 2026™, in addition to the AFC Asian Qualifiers™ (FIFA World Cup 2026™ Asian Qualifiers Final Round), the FIFA Women’s World Cup Brazil 2027™, the AFC Asian Cup Saudi Arabia 2027™, and international friendly matches for both the CommBank Matildas and Subway Socceroos.
In celebration of Paramount Australia’s support of Australia’s rising stars, fans will benefit immediately, as they can look forward to watching the CommBank Young Matildas take on the world at the FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup Colombia 2024™. The CommBank Young Matildas will play their Colombian hosts in the marquee match on the opening day of the tournament on Saturday 31 August 2024 (local time) and 1 September 2024 AEST.
Football Australia and Paramount Australia today announced a landmark multi-year and multi-platform agreement to broadcast an extended package of CommBank Matildas and Subway Socceroos’ games on Network 10 and Paramount+ in Australia, through to 2028.
Paramount Australia (parent company of Network 10 and Paramount+) will be the home of the CommBank Matildas and Subway Socceroos in Australia, including the AFC Women’s Asian Cup 2026™ being hosted in Australia and AFC Asian Cup Saudi Arabia 2027™.
More than 100 international football games featuring either the CommBank Matildas or Subway Socceroos will be telecast live with at least 50 games on free-to-air television.
In addition, Paramount Australia have acquired exclusive rights to the FIFA Women’s World Cup Brazil 2027™, in a deal brokered in partnership with IMG.
New package also includes all CommBank Matildas and Subway Socceroos’ friendly matches, all AFC Tournaments (including AFC Asian Qualifiers™), and the Australia Cup Finals through to 2028.
Under the agreement, Network 10 and Paramount+ will become the exclusive home to all Australian Women’s Senior National Team matches for the next four years, including the FIFA Women’s World Cup Brazil 2027™, up until the LA 2028 Summer Olympics, and the Men’s Senior National Team matches including all AFC Asian Qualifiers™ (FIFA World Cup 2026™ Asian Qualifiers Final Round) except the FIFA World Cup 2026™
For the first time ever, this landmark agreement brings together rights for one broadcaster for the AFC Women’s Asian Cup 2026™, in addition to the AFC Asian Qualifiers™ (FIFA World Cup 2026™ Asian Qualifiers Final Round), the FIFA Women’s World Cup Brazil 2027™, the AFC Asian Cup Saudi Arabia 2027™, and international friendly matches for both the CommBank Matildas and Subway Socceroos.
In celebration of Paramount Australia’s support of Australia’s rising stars, fans will benefit immediately, as they can look forward to watching the CommBank Young Matildas take on the world at the FIFA U-20 Women’s World Cup Colombia 2024™. The CommBank Young Matildas will play their Colombian hosts in the marquee match on the opening day of the tournament on Saturday 31 August 2024 (local time) and 1 September 2024 AEST.
