Rucci can still bite when he wants to

[Launchpad McQuack]

R04 d. 8-Sydney @ SCG by 4
R05 d. 9-Bulldogs @ AO by 14
R06 d. 18-WCE @ AO by 40
R07 d. 6-St Kilda @ MRVL by 7
R08 d. 11-Essendon @ AO by 5
R09 d. 17-North @ Hobart by 70
R10 d. 4-Melbourne @ AO by 4
R11 d. 13-Richmond @ MCG by 10
R12 d. 16-Hawthorn @ AO by 55
R13 d. 9-Bulldogs @ MRVL by 22
R14 d. 12-Geelong @ AO by 38
R16 d. 11-Essendon @ MCG by 4
R17 d. 15-Gold Coast @ AO by 33

What’s the best win there? Scraping past the Dees at home? The Houston moment was obviously a fantastic piece of skill and just an all-round cold-blooded big-balled example of clutch execution.

But beyond that, yikes.

Any team with talent and aspirations to contend should be stacking up wins against that raft of mediocrity.

Hinkley himself (at 0-5) has decried how it doesn't matter when you win or lose, only the result at the end of the season.

 

[Papa G]

Not that I'm out to defame Abernathy, but if ever, EVER the Anti Vax dribble is peddaled out to discredit Tredrea as some sort of dangerous loon, I reckon more than a gentle reminder should be disclosed to the general public of Abernathy's completely underhanded and morally questionable dealings with his long term employer who had looked after him for many years resulting in Abernathy having to pay a very large settlement for ****ing them over. Not saying this needs to be dragged up, but if the cheerleaders, club, Koch are going to play dirty, the ability to counter that is more than there.

 

[Steve Dore]

Not that I'm out to defame Abernathy, but if ever, EVER the Anti Vax dribble is peddaled out to discredit Tredrea as some sort of dangerous loon, I reckon more than a gentle reminder should be disclosed to the general public of Abernathy's completely underhanded and morally questionable dealings with his long term employer who had looked after him for many years resulting in Abernathy having to pay a very large settlement for ******* them over. Not saying this needs to be dragged up, but if the cheerleaders, club, Koch are going to play dirty, the ability to counter that is more than there.

If anything Abernathy's business dealings with IJF are far more relevant to a position on the board than Tredrea's anti-vax views.

 

[manureid]

Imagine Rucci being the bloke you roll out as the head of propaganda. Desperation.

 

[Sheeds]

Not that I'm out to defame Abernathy, but if ever, EVER the Anti Vax dribble is peddaled out to discredit Tredrea as some sort of dangerous loon, I reckon more than a gentle reminder should be disclosed to the general public of Abernathy's completely underhanded and morally questionable dealings with his long term employer who had looked after him for many years resulting in Abernathy having to pay a very large settlement for ******* them over. Not saying this needs to be dragged up, but if the cheerleaders, club, Koch are going to play dirty, the ability to counter that is more than there.

I was thinking exactly this.

I am not passing comment on whether Abernathy did a good job or bad job when he was previously on the board. Apparently did a wonderful job according to Rucci. But in the interest of balance I thought Rucci could have spent some time discussing the exit of Abernathy in 2012 and provided some discussion around these business disputes. He certainly had no issue in going into detail for this relating to Tredrea.

But at the end of the day if Rucci with his vested interest as a club employee wants to write a hit piece on Tredrea and essentially against anyone who dare questions the way the club operates or dare question anything at all as anti hinkley or troublemakers then that is his prerogative.

Members should never be vilified or made to feel they do not matter for simply wanting the best for the football club. Unfortunately it is very difficult to have a rational discussion with the current regime and protection crew.

 

[bomberclifford]

If anything Abernathy's business dealings with IJF are far more relevant to a position on the board than Tredrea's anti-vax views.

On first read I thought you were saying that his dodgy IJF dealings would be advantageous to a board position.
Probably not far from the truth, to be honest.

 

[Willsy10]

R04 d. 8-Sydney @ SCG by 4
R05 d. 9-Bulldogs @ AO by 14
R06 d. 18-WCE @ AO by 40
R07 d. 6-St Kilda @ MRVL by 7
R08 d. 11-Essendon @ AO by 5
R09 d. 17-North @ Hobart by 70
R10 d. 4-Melbourne @ AO by 4
R11 d. 13-Richmond @ MCG by 10
R12 d. 16-Hawthorn @ AO by 55
R13 d. 9-Bulldogs @ MRVL by 22
R14 d. 12-Geelong @ AO by 38
R16 d. 11-Essendon @ MCG by 4
R17 d. 15-Gold Coast @ AO by 33

What’s the best win there? Scraping past the Dees at home? The Houston moment was obviously a fantastic piece of skill and just an all-round cold-blooded big-balled example of clutch execution.

But beyond that, yikes.

Any team with talent and aspirations to contend should be stacking up wins against that raft of mediocrity.

Looking back on that stretch of wins it was definitely a favourable stretch of the fixture. It's still hard to win that many in a row but on reflection it wasn't that great, i think most of us already knew that though, it was more the media and outsiders that were gushing over our form. The port faithful definitely still had their concerns about how our form would hold up in finals.

It was probably the stretch between round 10-14 where i started to believe and then it dropped away again from there. I tried to get myself up for finals on the false belief that we'd got our mojo back in the last 3 minor round games but besides the GWS game, they weren't good wins.

 

[Sheeds]

Looking back on that stretch of wins it was definitely a favourable stretch of the fixture. It's still hard to win that many in a row but on reflection it wasn't that great, i think most of us already knew that though, it was more the media and outsiders that were gushing over our form. The port faithful definitely still had their concerns about how our form would hold up in finals.

It was probably the stretch between round 10-14 where i started to believe and then it dropped away again from there. I tried to get myself up for finals on the false belief that we'd got our mojo back in the last 3 minor round games but besides the GWS game, they weren't good wins.

The way those within the club bang on about the 13 in a row they make it sound like we just played the top teams on a loop and kept winning in super impressive fashion. It was a a great run of results don't get me wrong, but it loses a bit of the cachet when you look back and see 10 (if my quick calculations are correct ) of the wins were against teams that didn't feature in finals.

 

[silverfingers]

R04 d. 8-Sydney @ SCG by 4
R05 d. 9-Bulldogs @ AO by 14
R06 d. 18-WCE @ AO by 40
R07 d. 6-St Kilda @ MRVL by 7
R08 d. 11-Essendon @ AO by 5
R09 d. 17-North @ Hobart by 70
R10 d. 4-Melbourne @ AO by 4
R11 d. 13-Richmond @ MCG by 10
R12 d. 16-Hawthorn @ AO by 55
R13 d. 9-Bulldogs @ MRVL by 22
R14 d. 12-Geelong @ AO by 38
R16 d. 11-Essendon @ MCG by 4
R17 d. 15-Gold Coast @ AO by 33

What’s the best win there? Scraping past the Dees at home? The Houston moment was obviously a fantastic piece of skill and just an all-round cold-blooded big-balled example of clutch execution.

But beyond that, yikes.

Any team with talent and aspirations to contend should be stacking up wins against that raft of mediocrity.

To be fair though, the Saints, Dogs and Geelong were flying, and Essendon at the G is never easy.
Were some good wins there.
Hawks was a masterclass by Port.

 

[GoPorts]

And the finals teams we did play in that stretch all went out in straight sets too.

The way those within the club bang on about the 13 in a row they make it sound like we just played the top teams on a loop and kept winning in super impressive fashion. It was a a great run of results don't get me wrong, but it loses a bit of the cachet when you look back and see 10 (if my quick calculations are correct ) of the wins were against teams that didn't feature in finals

 

[TeeKray]

13 wins in a row is excellent no matter what way you spin it.

The reality of this coach is that he's gone 14-3 (1st), 17-5 (2nd) and 17-6 (3rd) in 3 of the past 4 seasons. The ability to win home and away games is proven and not doubted by anyone fair minded.

The ability to perform in big games such as Showdowns and finals against anyone anywhere is very, very questionable - in fact, it's not questionable, we've simply proven that we can't do it.

 

[tribey]

Hawks was a masterclass by Port.

They outscored us 11.7 to 7.4 in the second half.

 

[Steve Dore]

13 wins in a row is excellent no matter what way you spin it.

.....

Not sure if serious.

If the Showdowns had of been in R5 and R14 instead of R3 and R20 The Streak™ would not be a thing. Pure luck of the fixture, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[TeeKray]

Not sure if serious.

If the Showdowns had of been in R5 and R14 instead of R3 and R20 The Streak™ would not be a thing. Pure luck of the fixture, nothing more, nothing less.

We beat 11 of the other 17 teams in that time.

There's a reason teams don't win 13 in a row very often, it's a difficult thing to do no matter who you are playing.

In fact, the only other non Victorian team to EVER do it was the Brisbane team of 2001.

Downplaying it is pointless, misses the key issue (ie inability to perform under pressure in finals) and makes you look like you're driving an agenda at all costs rather than just looking at facts.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The 13 in a row was only mentioned as context to what happened after the "untenable" comment. It's a non-factor in deciding between the board candidates.

Whilst the tone of the article was pro-Abernethy, it's hardly a reason to attack Bruce. He's a Port Adelaide champion too and entitled to run for the Board if he thinks he can make a positive difference.

From what I've heard, he's not pro-Hinkley anyway but isn't nailing his flag to that mast so as to provide differentiation in his candidacy.

At the end of the day whoever gets the nod is one voice among many, albeit one of accountability I would hope.

 

[Duck Farmer]

There appears to be a 'me' missing from the thread title.

 

[tribey]

We beat 11 of the other 17 teams in that time.

There's a reason teams don't win 13 in a row very often, it's a difficult thing to do no matter who you are playing.

In fact, the only other non Victorian team to EVER do it was the Brisbane team of 2001.

Downplaying it is pointless, misses the key issue (ie inability to perform under pressure in finals) and makes you look like you're driving an agenda at all costs rather than just looking at facts.

I dunno. It’s not like he hasn’t racked up an isolated 33-3 record against NM/GC/StK over 11 seasons.

In the context of his wider coaching career, the streak speaks more to that sort of return aligning in a bloc rather than any sort of “hoooooboy, this is some feat!” majesty.

 

[Powerade 08]

wtf is this thread? lol

 

[Grave Danger]

There appears to be a 'me' missing from the thread title.

My immediate thought was - so can mozzies

 

[PortPortPort]

Funny when Abernathy was on the board, Rucci dug his heels right into how Port was run.

 

[TeeKray]

I dunno. It’s not like he hasn’t racked up an isolated 33-3 record against NM/GC/StK over 11 seasons.

In the context of his wider coaching career, the streak speaks more to that sort of return aligning in a bloc rather than any sort of “hoooooboy, this is some feat!” majesty.

The streak included wins against all 5 grand finalists from the previous 3 seasons including 2 wins against the Bulldogs from that group of teams so 6 wins total. Sure, some of those teams came off a bit last year but they were all still pretty solid opposition that took some beating.

There's a reason only the great Brisbane team of 2001 had previously won 13 in a row as a non Victorian team. It's very difficult to do no matter the opposition.

Now, does that mean Hinkley should still be coach? Not in my view. You can acknowledge the above whilst also acknowledging that we failed in finals yet again. You can shake hands after 11 years and say thanks for getting the team to good, we're now looking for someone who can make it great. Our club doesn't have the ruthlessness required to do this though.

 

[Portology]

If anything Abernathy's business dealings with IJF are far more relevant to a position on the board than Tredrea's anti-vax views.

One champ with prior board experience and an allegedly unpleasant personal business dealing in his history... Vs another champ who has no prior board experience, relatively few business dealings and who gives off a fair whiff of "does not play well with others"?

Given the excruciating plateau of finals-letdown mediocrity we've got to with the "but but stability" team over the last decade, you'd tend to go with Tredrea... IF and it's a bloody big 96 point font IF you could only trust him to recuse himself from decisions/discussions of things he knows very little about. Focus on the footy and leave all the other crap behind Wazza. If politics is the art of the possible, your mission in the short term is to absolutely positively pre-empt/prevent/disrupt another unwarranted senior coaching contract extension.

Rucci can go bite himself. The gummy shark of journalism, and a bottom feeding one at that.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

"Pro-Hinkley faction" "Anti-Hinkley faction" "the Hinkley haters"

How the **** did it come to this over a bloke that's achieved literally nothing

Its just all such a joke

 

[EskimoPAFC]

13 wins in a row is excellent no matter what way you spin it.

Its an excellent start.

Its like winning the first tennis set 6-0. Yes you can't criticise it, it sets a great foundation, but if you end up losing 6-0 0-6 0-6 0-6 that first set doesn't mean shit.

 

[Ilias M]

Rucci thinks Ken's coaching top of his game now.

When we were on our knees in 2010 he was sinking the boot in every week.

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