Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay Pt 2 *Pilot Greg Lynn Guilty for the Murder of Carol Clay

[Kurve]

Here is PART 1 Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

DPP v Lynn [2024] VSCA 62 (12 April 2024) INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL​

R v Lynn (Rulings 1-4) [2024] VSC 373 (28 June 2024)​

R v Lynn (Rulings 5 & 6) [2024] VSC 375 (28 February 2024)

R v Lynn (Ruling 7) [2024] VSC 376 (8 May 2024)

The Greg Lynn Police Interview Tapes (Shortened Version)

The 3.5 HR Police Interview

THREADS FOR THE HIGH COUNTRY DISAPPEARED
High Country Disappearance of Prison Boss David Prideaux
The Disappearance of Warren Meyer

2008 - Warren Meyer (23 March 2008) not found
2010 - Japp and Annie Viergever (29 March 2010) both shot & 3 dogs, house burnt.
2011 - David Prideaux (5 June 2011) not found
2017 - Kevin Tenant (17 February 2018) shot 3 times, played dead.
2019 - Conrad Whitlock (29 July 2019) not found
2019 - Niels Becker (24 October 2019) not found
2020 - Russell Hill and Carol Clay (20 March 2020) murdered

Lynn's first wife Lisa, was found dead on 26 October 1999.

 

[Romaine Calm]

Someone fell out of a window. It is alleged that Lynn might have been involved in that. Potentially as a consequence of what allegedly happened in Doha.

WT I feel like I’m in a pressure cooker

 

[theouthouse]

This murder suicide stuff is interesting.

Perhaps he was aiming to stage Hill and Clay as a murder suicide. Old husband shoots wife then kills himself.

Then make it look like a robber had come and taken the gun, searched the car for money and left.

Notices they have different surnames, shit maybe they're not married. New plan, make it look like they've gone missing so have to get rid of all the blood etc.

 

[maggiethecat]

I've seen the movie. You tie them to a chair and force the alcohol down their throat. They swallow or drown.

Or hold a gun to their head and force them to drink ..not that I would know about such matters

 

[Sir_Loin]

This is what I’ve been looking for.

“The jury in the Clay-Hill murder trial was told that after the campers' deaths, Lynn had changed the colour of his 1997 Nissan Patrol from blue-grey to tan. It was the second time the car had been painted - it was originally white.

He first painted his car in 2016 after he returned from a long trip to central and northern Australia. Police remain interested in why the car was repainted a different colour.

Inquiries in Victoria and interstate continue.“

Strewth this is exhausting.

So now we have the year when he first painted his car.

What could have happened in 2016 to cause him to want to do that?

Unsolved murders. Hit and runs. Shootings or fires?

Much easier to find something related with that more narrow time frame.

Do we know what model and year the patrol is?

 

[highcountry]

This murder suicide stuff is interesting.

Perhaps he was aiming to stage Hill and Clay as a murder suicide. Old husband shoots wife then kills himself.

Then make it look like a robber had come and taken the gun, searched the car for money and left.

Notices they have different surnames, shit maybe they're not married. New plan, make it look like they've gone missing so have to get rid of all the blood etc.

Was just chatting re similar scenario.

What if this was not a random meeting between hill and Lynn.

As I’ve said previously with MO past behaviour is the best indicator of how one will behaviour in the future.

What say like the Macedon couple he had previously had an altercation with Hill - a trigger. This time over hunting. Not Lisa.

He carries that grudge around for long time but knows how to find Hill via the Ham radio chats, that ramjet mentions he knew about.

Completely out of left field but potentially could be a similar scenario - he wants to make it look like murder suicide but something goes wrong.

Clay shot. But Hill eludes being shot or a single shot.

The double suicide no longer works.

Change of plan.

 

[Sir_Loin]

This murder suicide stuff is interesting.

Perhaps he was aiming to stage Hill and Clay as a murder suicide. Old husband shoots wife then kills himself.

Then make it look like a robber had come and taken the gun, searched the car for money and left.

Notices they have different surnames, shit maybe they're not married. New plan, make it look like they've gone missing so have to get rid of all the blood etc.

Yeah appears he tried to throw off the police on a number of fronts, robbery etc.

Did a pretty good job, police didnt even treat it as a potential murder for what was it eight months?

 

[highcountry]

Do we know what model and year the patrol is?

From memory 96. It’s in the thread or the past one.

 

[highcountry]

Was just chatting re similar scenario.

What if this was not a random meeting between hill and Lynn.

As I’ve said previously with MO past behaviour is the best indicator of how one will behaviour in the future.

What say like the Macedon couple he had previously had an altercation with Hill - a trigger. This time over hunting. Not Lisa.

He carries that grudge around for long time but knows how to find Hill via the Ham radio chats, that ramjet mentions he knew about.

Completely out of left field but potentially could be a similar scenario - he wants to make it look like murder suicide but something goes wrong.

Clay shot. But Hill eludes being shot or a single shot.

The double suicide no longer works.

Change of plan.

Or simpler.

Random meeting. Lynn gets pissed off.

Thinks. Right what has worked in the past.

Let’s make it look like a murder suicide.

That goes wrong.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Or simpler.

Random meeting. Lynn gets pissed off.

Thinks. Right what has worked in the past.

Let’s make it look like a murder suicide.

That goes wrong.

But you have to account for the gun in this circumstance. Russell didn’t have one.

 

[highcountry]

But you have to account for the gun in this circumstance. Russell didn’t have one.

Good point.

But niether did the couple in Macedon.

Just trying to think outside the box.

If Lynn is pissed off big time. He wants to take them out, a murder suicide has worked before.

 

[Underarrest_]

Good point.

But niether did the couple in Macedon.

Just trying to think outside the box.

If Lynn is pissed off big time. He wants to take them out, a murder suicide has worked before.

Is there any chance that Lynn rocked up to this couples house in Macedon and they had a drink for old times sakes.

 

[highcountry]

Is there any chance that Lynn rocked up to this couples house in Macedon and they had a drink for old times sakes.

His threats were credible and everyone knew what he was capable of.

They certainly would not have welcomed him in. Especially at night.

But if he turned up with a gun. Let’s have a drink.

 

[Underarrest_]

His threats were credible and everyone knew what he was capable of.

They certainly would not have welcomed him in. Especially at night.

But if he turned up with a gun. Let’s have a drink.

Just thought I’d ask. I’ve known people who’ve had bad blood between them, even threats, then time passes and they catch up again.
From your account, it doesn’t sound like this was likely unless as you say it was under duress.

 

[BFew]

Is there any chance that Lynn rocked up to this couples house in Macedon and they had a drink for old times sakes.

Greg Lynn and the mystery of a double fatality at Zig Zag Rd

A coroner found it was a murder-suicide, but those who knew the dead couple aren’t so certain.

www.theage.com.au

'Friends said the answering machine tape and Lisa’s detailed diary were missing.'
What if Greg Lynn read/stole Lisa's diary, and there was something in Lisa's diary documenting or implying, or interpreted as that Lynn had made damaging/incriminating to Greg Lynn disclosures to a Viergever.

Then with this having played on Greg Lynn's mind for the next 10 years along with him being concerned about what else about his behavior Lynn had discosed to the Viergevers , Lynn either decided to

1. Find out how much of a threat the Viergever's were to him from what Lynn had, or had possibly disclosed to them all those years ago, by visiting the Viergevers under the guide of for old times sake; and or

2. Just break in and kill them to remove the actual, possible or perceived Viergever threat to himself.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Good point.

But niether did the couple in Macedon.

Just trying to think outside the box.

If Lynn is pissed off big time. He wants to take them out, a murder suicide has worked before.

Yeah I don’t think he thought about going down that path. Debatable whether the Macedon murder suicide couple had a gun, it’s just not proven one way or the other despite it sounding unlikely and or very suspicious.

Russell on the other hand. Would have had to have found a 12 gauge shotgun and slug shot.

Just seems implausible he does a spur of the moment murder suicide by stealing a shotgun from a neighbouring camper. GL is a slippery mofo but not even he could pull that one off.

 

[highcountry]

Yeah I don’t think he thought about going down that path. Debatable whether the Macedon murder suicide couple had a gun, it’s just not proven one way or the other despite it sounding unlikely and or very suspicious.

Russell on the other hand. Would have had to have found a 12 gauge shotgun and slug shot.

Just seems implausible he does a spur of the moment murder suicide by stealing a shotgun from a neighbouring camper. GL is a slippery mofo but not even he could pull that one off.

Granted.

 

[highcountry]

Just thought I’d ask. I’ve known people who’ve had bad blood between them, even threats, then time passes and they catch up again.
From your account, it doesn’t sound like this was likely unless as you say it was under duress.

To put it in context threats were made before lisa died.

Lisa died.

They were scared of him before. Everyone was.

They believed he killed Lisa.

There is zero chance they would welcome him inside. Especially turning up at night.

 

[Underarrest_]

To put it in context threats were made before lisa died.

Lisa died.

They were scared of him before. Everyone was.

They believed he killed Lisa.

There is zero chance they would welcome him inside. Especially turning up at night.

It sounds like Lynn has killed animals, threatened people and potentially killed people (more than one) and totally walked under the radar, allowing him to continue to be a predator. It’s a shame more notice of Lynn’s behaviour wasn’t taken seriously when he first started this pattern of behaviour.

 

[Kurve]

To put it in context threats were made before lisa died.

Lisa died.

They were scared of him before. Everyone was.

They believed he killed Lisa.

There is zero chance they would welcome him inside. Especially turning up at night.

Is it possible Mr and Mrs V had any kind of business dealings with Lynn prior? Might there be anything with his name on it in their office?

The fire started in the office.

 

[Lady O]

It sounds like Lynn has killed animals, threatened people and potentially killed people (more than one) and totally walked under the radar, allowing him to continue to be a predator. It’s a shame more notice of Lynn’s behaviour wasn’t taken seriously when he first started this pattern of behaviour.

It wasn't just that he killed animals. He killed animals that were very special to their owners. Typical psychopath behaviour IMO.

 

[highcountry]

It sounds like Lynn has killed animals, threatened people and potentially killed people (more than one) and totally walked under the radar, allowing him to continue to be a predator. It’s a shame more notice of Lynn’s behaviour wasn’t taken seriously when he first started this pattern of behaviour.

Dozens of people went to the police.

He was on the radar.

As soon as he was arrested cops from Macedon spoke up and said. He is our guy. We need to open a new inquest.

But back in 1999 and 2010 there was not enough evidence.

They knew it.

He knew it.

IMHO he was cocky. Two decades of not getting caught made him think he was too smart.

Too invincible.

Absolute worst case is he wins his appeal but with what police now know and at very least two new inquests where the evidentiary burden is much lower and most of what could not be admitted can be heard, I am confident his goose is cooked.

Inquests have been instrumental in getting convictions of people who have long evaded them.

 

[Underarrest_]

It wasn't just that he killed animals. He killed animals that were very special to their owners. Typical psychopath behaviour IMO.

Yes his own family pet and other’s pets.
Definite psychopathic behaviour.

 

[Raisedeyebrow]

Do prisoners get supplied with sunscreen?

What’s the sunscreen references about !


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[Underarrest_]

Dozens of people went to the police.

He was on the radar.

As soon as he was arrested cops from Macedon spoke up and said. He is our guy. We need to open a new inquest.

But back in 1999 and 2010 there was not enough evidence.

They knew it.

He knew it.

IMHO he was cocky. Two decades of not getting caught made him think he was too smart.

Too invincible.

Absolute worst case is he wins his appeal but with what police now know and at very least two new inquests where the evidentiary burden is much lower and most of what could not be admitted can be heard, I am confident his goose is cooked.

Inquests have been instrumental in getting convictions of people who have long evaded them.

I agree, he thought he was invincible and hiding behind his career and so called family/clean life.
Hopefully the inquests will be enough to at least name him or refer for charges. Unfortunately so much time has passed but maybe they’ll have new evidence such as Lynn’s so called alibi the night of Lisa’s death. With all of the people Lynn was associated to who are deceased, the police have a lot of work to do.

 

[PJays]

Dozens of people went to the police.

He was on the radar.

As soon as he was arrested cops from Macedon spoke up and said. He is our guy. We need to open a new inquest.

But back in 1999 and 2010 there was not enough evidence.

They knew it.

He knew it.

IMHO he was cocky. Two decades of not getting caught made him think he was too smart.

Too invincible.

Absolute worst case is he wins his appeal but with what police now know and at very least two new inquests where the evidentiary burden is much lower and most of what could not be admitted can be heard, I am confident his goose is cooked.

Inquests have been instrumental in getting convictions of people who have long evaded them.

Is there any realistic possibility of further conviction/s given the crime scenes are long gone?