Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay Pt 2 *Pilot Greg Lynn sentenced 32 yrs with a non-parole period of 24 yrs

[Kurve]

Here is PART 1 Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

DPP v Lynn [2024] VSCA 62 (12 April 2024) INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL​

R v Lynn (Rulings 1-4) [2024] VSC 373 (28 June 2024)​

R v Lynn (Rulings 5 & 6) [2024] VSC 375 (28 February 2024)

R v Lynn (Ruling 7) [2024] VSC 376 (8 May 2024)

The Greg Lynn Police Interview Tapes (Shortened Version)

The 3.5 HR Police Interview

R v Lynn [2024] VSC 635 (18 October 2024)​

THREADS FOR THE HIGH COUNTRY DISAPPEARED
High Country Disappearance of Prison Boss David Prideaux
The Disappearance of Warren Meyer

2008 - Warren Meyer (23 March 2008) not found
2010 - Japp and Annie Viergever (29 March 2010) both shot & 3 dogs, house burnt.
2011 - David Prideaux (5 June 2011) not found
2017 - Kevin Tenant (17 February 2018) shot 3 times, played dead.
2019 - Conrad Whitlock (29 July 2019) not found
2019 - Niels Becker (24 October 2019) not found
2020 - Russell Hill and Carol Clay (20 March 2020) murdered

Lynn's first wife Lisa, was found dead on 26 October 1999.

 

[MiguelM]

I get the feeling that initial thoughts were along the lines that the couple deliberately vanished due to their secret relationship.

Maybe this stalled the gathering of evidence and mother nature had time to wash away much of it.

 

[FromOldFitzroy]

So true … a far cry from the High Country the job, family & prestigious sporting clubs he so enjoyed. The consequences of a moment of madness.

I have a different impression of the man as one not likely to give in to a moment of madness. Rather calculating, exploring alternatives, and then ruthless.
Without relying on the slaughtering of a pig or a dog as backing this up, there’s all the inadmissible (I think) material recorded when he was driving his car.

 

[Romaine Calm]

I have a different impression of the man as one not likely to give in to a moment of madness. Rather calculating, exploring alternatives, and then ruthless.
Without relying on the slaughtering of a pig or a dog as backing this up, there’s all the inadmissible (I think) material recorded when he was driving his car.

You may be closer to the truth, I have wondered if he stewed over his dinner calculating his options. Maybe in time we will know more, no doubt there will be a book or two.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Yep

He's not going to remain in protection forever and once he goes off suicide watch he'll be gradually moved into mainstream.

Long termer, he'll end up in a trusted position as billet or something like that.

When he ends up in minimum security, he could go back to bee keeping

Haha yeah agree

I once heard a Supreme Court Judge explain the hardest part of presiding over a Court case was the Sentencing.

Legal argument was easy, both the Prosecution and the Defence will argue the legal matters and cite precedent and the Legislation and both parties will call to the Judge's attention the more egregious breaches of testimony rules.

However the sentencing, weighing the crimes against rehabilitation, Legislation and precedents and the deterent effect and the detestation of the community to the crime versus warehousing crims to the end of time was hard. Especially hard if the person is young

Few people get to read Sentencing Comments, relying on either a one para summary of page 6 or a click bait front page headline.

The current trend of broadcasting some Sentencing is to be applauded as even whilst they are said in open Court they are rarely heard by those without an interest or involvement in the case, Year 12 Legal Studies students on an excursion or retirees who find the tragedy played out in Court cheaper that a movie ticket

Reading the decision/sentencing remarks from the Supreme Court for violent crimes is fascinating and horrifying at the same time. The things some people are capable of just blows your mind.

 

[BFew]

R v Lynn [2024] VSC 635 (18 October 2024)​

 

[Zidane98]

Imagine the things GL would trade to get his hands on some SPF30+ in prison.

 

[Poppy Penny]

R v Lynn [2024] VSC 635 (18 October 2024)​

Thanks for this link.

 

[GrayRanga]

Haha yeah agree


Reading the decision/sentencing remarks from the Supreme Court for violent crimes is fascinating and horrifying at the same time. The things some people are capable of just blows your mind.

Everybody knows about the PTSD experienced by Police experiencing exposure to the less salubrious elements of our society.

Many aspects of the Criminal Justice System have employees exposed to the worst of society on a day by day basis; the Judges who have to listen to evidence, the DPP that have to walk victims through the entire Court process, even the CCO's who have to write Pre Sentence or Pre Parole Assessments and then have to supervise them in the Community

It scars the psyche and forms a really really dark view of the world and a bitter and warped sense of humour.

A lot of burnt out people out there

 

[BFew]

In the Weekend Oz online yesterday, a detailed description of how Police did a successful after midnight, 3 hours long "hot install" of tiny surveillance equipment into ceiling and wall cavities all over the Lynns house whilst the family was all home, and the son was still up playing on his Playstation.

Including hardwiring it into the homes powerboard.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/inside-the-highstakes-police-surveillance-operation-that-brought-down-greg-lynn/news-story/0cceb3273aca41ab4f53dc9320ad6776

'Inside the high-stakes police surveillance operation that brought down Greg Lynn​

'21 hours ago
...
Normally, after being granted warrants to covertly install surveillance equipment, they would spend a few days monitoring the patterns of the household and identify an hour or two when they could be reasonably certain no one was in the house.

A specialised team would quickly enter and install tiny devices through ceiling cavities and wall cavities. The tips of these devices, each no bigger than a pin, were almost invisible to the naked eye and would sit flush with the wall or the ceiling, having just penetrated the surface.

The devices were connected to a scan detector. Finally, everything had to be hardwired into the powerboard of the house. It was delicate, highly technical work that required time to execute properly. Time alone in the house. But how could they install all this equipment at Lynn’s place when no one was leaving the house, and his son was staying up all night playing video games?
...
The only option, the last resort, was a “hot install” – covertly installing the surveillance equipment in the house in the dead of night while people were in it
...
At around 1am a dark HiAce glided into Caroline Springs and pulled up opposite the target house. Three fit men slipped out the rear door and walked quietly across the road. Two held small carry-bags, while the third gripped a Bogota rake (a type of lock pick) and a tension wrench, instruments that the team used to neutralise the deadlock on the front door swiftly and silently.

Once inside they worked quickly, precisely and in complete silence in the rooms and the roof cavity while the house’s occupants slept. All except Lynn’s son, who was still on his PlayStation. The real danger was disturbing the boy.

At 3.37am a signal from the living room appeared on the screens of the Comms monitoring room at Missing Persons HQ. Then another from the dining room. Then one from the kitchen … and finally, an excruciating seven-and-a-half minutes later, from the main bedroom. It was all done and the team was out before 4am.
...
Edit: This is an edited extract from In the Dead of Night: A Mysterious Disappearance, a Brazen Murderer and the Police Who Hunted Him Down by Greg Haddrick (Allen & Unwin), out on October 29.'

https://amzn.asia/d/3tfCgTw

 

[Romaine Calm]

In the Weekend Oz online yesterday, a detailed description of how Police did a successful after midnight, 3 hours long "hot install" of tiny surveillance equipment into ceiling and wall cavities all over the Lynns house whilst the family was all home, and the son was still up playing on his Playstation.

Including hardwiring it into the homes powerboard.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/inside-the-highstakes-police-surveillance-operation-that-brought-down-greg-lynn/news-story/0cceb3273aca41ab4f53dc9320ad6776

'Inside the high-stakes police surveillance operation that brought down Greg Lynn​

'21 hours ago
...
Normally, after being granted warrants to covertly install surveillance equipment, they would spend a few days monitoring the patterns of the household and identify an hour or two when they could be reasonably certain no one was in the house.

A specialised team would quickly enter and install tiny devices through ceiling cavities and wall cavities. The tips of these devices, each no bigger than a pin, were almost invisible to the naked eye and would sit flush with the wall or the ceiling, having just penetrated the surface.

The devices were connected to a scan detector. Finally, everything had to be hardwired into the powerboard of the house. It was delicate, highly technical work that required time to execute properly. Time alone in the house. But how could they install all this equipment at Lynn’s place when no one was leaving the house, and his son was staying up all night playing video games?
...
The only option, the last resort, was a “hot install” – covertly installing the surveillance equipment in the house in the dead of night while people were in it
...
At around 1am a dark HiAce glided into Caroline Springs and pulled up opposite the target house. Three fit men slipped out the rear door and walked quietly across the road. Two held small carry-bags, while the third gripped a Bogota rake (a type of lock pick) and a tension wrench, instruments that the team used to neutralise the deadlock on the front door swiftly and silently.

Once inside they worked quickly, precisely and in complete silence in the rooms and the roof cavity while the house’s occupants slept. All except Lynn’s son, who was still on his PlayStation. The real danger was disturbing the boy.

At 3.37am a signal from the living room appeared on the screens of the Comms monitoring room at Missing Persons HQ. Then another from the dining room. Then one from the kitchen … and finally, an excruciating seven-and-a-half minutes later, from the main bedroom. It was all done and the team was out before 4am.
...'

It pays to have dogs

 

[GardenGnome]

In the Weekend Oz online yesterday, a detailed description of how Police did a successful after midnight, 3 hours long "hot install" of tiny surveillance equipment into ceiling and wall cavities all over the Lynns house whilst the family was all home, and the son was still up playing on his Playstation.

Including hardwiring it into the homes powerboard.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/inside-the-highstakes-police-surveillance-operation-that-brought-down-greg-lynn/news-story/0cceb3273aca41ab4f53dc9320ad6776

'Inside the high-stakes police surveillance operation that brought down Greg Lynn​

'21 hours ago
...
Normally, after being granted warrants to covertly install surveillance equipment, they would spend a few days monitoring the patterns of the household and identify an hour or two when they could be reasonably certain no one was in the house.

A specialised team would quickly enter and install tiny devices through ceiling cavities and wall cavities. The tips of these devices, each no bigger than a pin, were almost invisible to the naked eye and would sit flush with the wall or the ceiling, having just penetrated the surface.

The devices were connected to a scan detector. Finally, everything had to be hardwired into the powerboard of the house. It was delicate, highly technical work that required time to execute properly. Time alone in the house. But how could they install all this equipment at Lynn’s place when no one was leaving the house, and his son was staying up all night playing video games?
...
The only option, the last resort, was a “hot install” – covertly installing the surveillance equipment in the house in the dead of night while people were in it
...
At around 1am a dark HiAce glided into Caroline Springs and pulled up opposite the target house. Three fit men slipped out the rear door and walked quietly across the road. Two held small carry-bags, while the third gripped a Bogota rake (a type of lock pick) and a tension wrench, instruments that the team used to neutralise the deadlock on the front door swiftly and silently.

Once inside they worked quickly, precisely and in complete silence in the rooms and the roof cavity while the house’s occupants slept. All except Lynn’s son, who was still on his PlayStation. The real danger was disturbing the boy.

At 3.37am a signal from the living room appeared on the screens of the Comms monitoring room at Missing Persons HQ. Then another from the dining room. Then one from the kitchen … and finally, an excruciating seven-and-a-half minutes later, from the main bedroom. It was all done and the team was out before 4am.
...'

This is so interesting, I wondered how they might have got around this during the Covid lockdowns.

Can you (or someone) please post the text behind the paywall. Thanks

 

[Sir_Loin]

In the Weekend Oz online yesterday, a detailed description of how Police did a successful after midnight, 3 hours long "hot install" of tiny surveillance equipment into ceiling and wall cavities all over the Lynns house whilst the family was all home, and the son was still up playing on his Playstation.

Including hardwiring it into the homes powerboard.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/weekend-australian-magazine/inside-the-highstakes-police-surveillance-operation-that-brought-down-greg-lynn/news-story/0cceb3273aca41ab4f53dc9320ad6776

'Inside the high-stakes police surveillance operation that brought down Greg Lynn​

'21 hours ago
...
Normally, after being granted warrants to covertly install surveillance equipment, they would spend a few days monitoring the patterns of the household and identify an hour or two when they could be reasonably certain no one was in the house.

A specialised team would quickly enter and install tiny devices through ceiling cavities and wall cavities. The tips of these devices, each no bigger than a pin, were almost invisible to the naked eye and would sit flush with the wall or the ceiling, having just penetrated the surface.

The devices were connected to a scan detector. Finally, everything had to be hardwired into the powerboard of the house. It was delicate, highly technical work that required time to execute properly. Time alone in the house. But how could they install all this equipment at Lynn’s place when no one was leaving the house, and his son was staying up all night playing video games?
...
The only option, the last resort, was a “hot install” – covertly installing the surveillance equipment in the house in the dead of night while people were in it
...
At around 1am a dark HiAce glided into Caroline Springs and pulled up opposite the target house. Three fit men slipped out the rear door and walked quietly across the road. Two held small carry-bags, while the third gripped a Bogota rake (a type of lock pick) and a tension wrench, instruments that the team used to neutralise the deadlock on the front door swiftly and silently.

Once inside they worked quickly, precisely and in complete silence in the rooms and the roof cavity while the house’s occupants slept. All except Lynn’s son, who was still on his PlayStation. The real danger was disturbing the boy.

At 3.37am a signal from the living room appeared on the screens of the Comms monitoring room at Missing Persons HQ. Then another from the dining room. Then one from the kitchen … and finally, an excruciating seven-and-a-half minutes later, from the main bedroom. It was all done and the team was out before 4am.
...'

I want that job how cool is that

 

[Awakening]

I want that job how cool is that

 

[Royces Hart]

 

[Underarrest_]

I want that job how cool is that

GL wouldn’t have been impressed he missed that one. Thought he knew everything. Did you talk to this guy and that guy? No, but we snuck in your house for a couple of hours while you were asleep.

 

[Awakening]

GL wouldn’t have been impressed he missed that one. Thought he knew everything. Did you talk to this guy and that guy? No, but we snuck in your house for a couple of hours while you were asleep.

Not a chance it would get past my neighbours.

 

[thumbs_up]

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"This is just between you and me, smashed hat"

 

[BFew]

This is so interesting, I wondered how they might have got around this during the Covid lockdowns.

Can you (or someone) please post the text behind the paywall. Thanks

The full article https://www.theaustralian.com.au/we...n/news-story/0cceb3273aca41ab4f53dc9320ad6776

'Inside the high-stakes police surveillance operation that brought down Greg Lynn'​

is archived at https://archive.is/T4MTx

 

[highcountry]

Now it’s time to return to ZigZag Road.

One wife.
One pig.
Four dogs.
One couple.

All with a direct connection to Lynn.

All of whom Lynn had threatened to kill.

All of whom ended up dead.

 

[Lady O]

Now it’s time to return to ZigZag Road.

One wife.
One pig.
Four dogs.
One couple.

All with a direct connection to Lynn.

All of whom Lynn had threatened to kill.

All of whom ended up dead.

Do you think the Police see any benefit in pursuing other charges when they already have a "life" conviction for murder?

 

[GrayRanga]

The full article https://www.theaustralian.com.au/we...n/news-story/0cceb3273aca41ab4f53dc9320ad6776

'Inside the high-stakes police surveillance operation that brought down Greg Lynn'​

is archived at https://archive.is/T4MTx

Interesting that he was considered to be volitile, reacting to minor aggravations with over the top responses

Puts a slightly different slant of the events of that night; was the altercation between Hill and Lynn or between Lynn and Hill?

If the Prosecution thought it was the latter, it would make sense why Lynn was charged with two counts of murder even there was no evidence to indicate how Hill died and they ran with the initial theory (narrative )t hat Clay died as a result of her witnessing Hill's death

 

[BFew]

The full article https://www.theaustralian.com.au/we...n/news-story/0cceb3273aca41ab4f53dc9320ad6776

'Inside the high-stakes police surveillance operation that brought down Greg Lynn'​

is archived at https://archive.is/T4MTx

The above article is an edited extract from the below book which will be released in 9 days time.

https://amzn.asia/d/bXxT0ST

 

[Percel]

I want that job how cool is that

If you enjoyed that tidbit, get on the Craig gozee podcast, colleagues of mine featured on it.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

The above article is an edited extract from the below book which will be released in 9 days time.

https://amzn.asia/d/bXxT0ST

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Not sure if the author should have brought in other disappearances in the area. It’s speculative, no evidence at all. I’d rather he stuck to the known facts.

No doubt there will be more books on the case.

 

[Lady O]

Not sure if the author should have brought in other disappearances in the area. It’s speculative, no evidence at all. I’d rather he stuck to the known facts.

No doubt there will be more books on the case.

Getting a book published basically at the end of sentencing is a great way to maximise sales, but I bet he wishes he knew about the Police planting the surveillance devices while they were in the house. That'd be a chapter in itself.