Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

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On the Greg Lynn committal proceedings Crown Prosecutor Mr Dickie said 'It is clear hopefully from the document, and if it's not clear from the document it's clear hopefully from the charges put before the court, that it is alleged of course that the accused acted with murderous intent when he allegedly killed the two victims.'
 
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I see what you are all saying and I’ve not been on a jury before.

It’s not enough to think he’s guilty or his story a lie, it has to be proven and it has to fit into certain criteria based on what both sides present.
Nah most of them have already made up their minds. Anyone who's still unsure is pressured to agree. That's how it works.
 
Most people knowing what Lynn did in the cover up, would find it real easy to believe he's capable of murdering them in the first place.

On the other hand regardless of the rumours, the jury are looking at a senior pilot and family man who's had a steady career, clearly has no criminal history and routinely passes all the checks.
So they wouldn't know how his 1st wife died and the coroners inquiry.?
 

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So they wouldn't know how his 1st wife died and the coroners inquiry.?

They're not allowed to take that in to consideration if they know about it, he didn't face charges nor was he recommended for charges.

His history is essentially clean.
 
Nah most of them have already made up their minds. Anyone who's still unsure is pressured to agree. That's how it works.

That wasn’t my experience at all. I must have been lucky I was on juries that had two brain cells to rub together. And so was the defendant.
 
Lynn really, really likes knives and guns.

Among the collection of weapons were two swords and 16 knives in sheaths, including throwing knives and daggers, court documents state.

Forensic officer Mark Gellatly told the court suspected traces of blood had been found on a large Gurkha knife, a hunting knife, Damascus knife, dagger and on the inner surface of the sheath of a yellow-handled hatchet.

Court documents allege Lynn's home had been loaded with guns, including semi-automatic pistols, Rugar revolvers, semi-automatic and lever action rifles and semi-automatic shotguns - one of which police allege was used to kill Ms Clay.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/me...cking-motel-covered-blood-elderly-camper.html
 
Lynn really, really likes knives and guns.

Among the collection of weapons were two swords and 16 knives in sheaths, including throwing knives and daggers, court documents state.

Forensic officer Mark Gellatly told the court suspected traces of blood had been found on a large Gurkha knife, a hunting knife, Damascus knife, dagger and on the inner surface of the sheath of a yellow-handled hatchet.

Court documents allege Lynn's home had been loaded with guns, including semi-automatic pistols, Rugar revolvers, semi-automatic and lever action rifles and semi-automatic shotguns - one of which police allege was used to kill Ms Clay.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/me...cking-motel-covered-blood-elderly-camper.html

For a hunting enthusiast not surprising really.
 

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Why do you need semi automatic pistols and Ruger revolvers for hunting? And swords?

I think he was part of a pistol club. So that’s allowed. Interested to know the throwing knives bit and how he got an exemption for those.

Maybe I’m totally wrong but I didn’t think the shotgun that was introduced was a semi automatic. I thought it was a bolt action.
 
Nah most of them have already made up their minds. Anyone who's still unsure is pressured to agree. That's how it works.

No....
Jurors will have an idea in their individual heads at this point.

The 'charge' that the judge outlines at the end of the trial will be when things change and Jurors will start to think collectively rather than individually. Of course, through the trial they'll be chatting about what they're thinking about... but the 'charge' from the judge will drill home what their responsibility is.

They'll be reflecting on the opening statements and how the bar has supported evidence they've seen in the weeks preceding...in the closing statements...

At the end of the day the jurors don't know each other from a bar of soap. They're a team that need to work together to achieve a unanimous outcome.
 
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Lynn benefits with the presumption of innocence in relation to the murder charges, with the prosecution needing to prove his version of events isn't true.

We know he's not innocent, if going by what he did in the cover up but he's not on trial for the cover up.
Lynn benefits from everything gets to look at the evidence brief sp he can fabricate a story very convenient. I dont see the fairness in that
 
Lynn benefits from everything gets to look at the evidence brief sp he can fabricate a story very convenient. I dont see the fairness in that

After what he did, it's galling but I can't see him walking without at least one conviction.
 
Well, on Monday the informant hits the witness box,

This is where the case actually starts; up to now it has been Act 1, the witnesses have given an outline of the physical setting, some independent witness testimony of time frames and or course the ballistic and pathology evidence.

The background has been set and Act 2 starts. The jury will see parts of the ROI, probably see footage Lynn's demeanour and his response to the questions and some of the questions asked.

The prosecution with be able to probe the ROI and the informant's opinions.and the facts they utilised to provide them the basis to charge Lynn with two counts of murder. They will be creating the narrative where those charges are the reasonable outcome of events that only the sole survivor of the incident, Lynn, witnessed

Of course, the defence will attempt to raise questions in the Jury's mind to satisfy a reasonable doubt of every element

It becomes suddenly more interesting, almost like a game of chess played with words

And no, there isn't going to be any sudden theatrical declaration from either barrister which suddenly resolves the case. seeing Lynn walk out a free man or get slotted to 2 days before Judgement Day
 
I think we need to remember, the prosecution is not intending to prove a motive or even how Russell was killed ....

The prosecution are trying to prove that two people were killed intentionally.

If you can't reason that GL has told the truth about about how the two deaths happened.... then the only option is, is that he did lie about how the two deaths happened...

Quite simply his story doesn't mathematically add up. I think Jason Recliner put it at about 1 in 140,000. For me, its higher than that and we're still only talking about how Carol died.
 
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