Roast Sack Horse

[caesar88]

Agree but my hypothesis is the "push to be more professional" is being misinterpreted to meaning being "more like a bank".

It seems obvious Brisbane and Fagan still maintained a "local footy club" culture but with professional training standards.

There is a difference.

My concern is the corporate silvertail culture is being absorbed by the playing group.

They sure as shit dont like body contact and doing any dirty blue collar stuff

I agree that we don't seem to have that sort of humble, grassroots culture in the team that I feel coaches like Fagan & McCrae have been able to conjure in recent years. I don't know that it's because of our corporate interests. In fact I find it unlikely that that would be the reason; I doubt our players are even aware of or invested in half the stuff our club's doing off the field in a corporate sense.

I think there's probably a number of factors involved. One being that I think in their efforts to embrace a new generation of Swans players and the style in which they play, the coaches have lost a level of accountability they once had; where players can show a lack of buy-in to the blue collar stuff you speak of and not only still get picked in the team each week, but can actually be put on a pedestal, singled out for praise by the coaches, given coaches votes, etc. I can remember when Tom Mitchell couldn't get games because he wasn't strong enough defensively (and I think that was fair enough at the time.) Where's that John Longmire gone?

 

[Dubai Quacker]

We have more silver tails within the club compared to the Roos and early Longmire years. Pridham and Harley off the field and not a lot of players like Hall, Kirk, Ablett, Shaw, Bevan, Mumford etc on the ground. More privileged types perhaps but maybe the whole league is more like this now. Private school kids dominate the numbers as well. food for thought.

Yes, we lost the grand final because some of our players went to private schools.

 

[Jewelsbon]

I actually have a problem with the leadership culture.
Harley and Horse have been indoctrinated and completely pilled into corporate culture and seemingly moved away from footy club culture. We have taken on air of haughtiness and superiority. Like we are a class above.

I don't actually think we are in a premiership window and I think winning the minor premiership was flattering and a false economy.

I just watched the replay the other day and thale big thing that stuck out was the players total inability to run backwards when we didn't have the ball.

Lachie Neale was left entirely alone all day. No body contact at all.. Sometimes he was in his own paddock just strolling along. Nobody even went near him at stoppages. He probably couldn't believe his luck.

We are the epitome of downhill skiers and I won't be surprised if the other clubs figure this out.

When Heeney got the week suspension it was a fair penalty yet we sooked and sooked and sooked about it.

Toby Greene mocked our sooking so we sooked about that as well..

And that was Harley and Horse leading the sooking.

Then at the GF after getting flogged Rampe somehow remembers to make a special reference to real-estate.com.au, a news ltd company.

I dont recall Brisbane players thanking any Individual sponsors.

But there is good old Swans culture circa 2024. Dane managed to find a place in his heart to give the Murdochs a shout out, like they need it.

Are you mad or just a masochist?

 

[Stu1961]

Are you mad or just a masochist?

 

[WillHayward]

Are you mad or just a masochist

Definitely mad.

 

[WillHayward]

Yes, we lost the grand final because some of our players went to private schools.

Well papley is a plumber from Gippsland with lots of passion and known for his "in your face" goal celebrations.

Can't recall.him making any tackles like Charlie Cameron made on GF day.

It's nothing to do with what school anyone went to.

Just the overall culture from the top all says we are white collar.

 

[bedford]

Not needed

 

[The King!]

Well papley is a plumber from Gippsland with lots of passion and known for his "in your face" goal celebrations.

Can't recall.him making any tackles like Charlie Cameron made on GF day.

It's nothing to do with what school anyone went to.

Just the overall culture from the top all says we are white collar.

He's in your face and fired up when it's going well , quiet as a church mouse grand final day AGAIN.


Hard to get excited about 2025 knowing the same coach who can't get it done is taking the same group in to fail.

 

[The King!]

Longmire is a 56% winning coach for the last 6 years and a 50% winning coach in finals

Average at best nowadays , no where near good enough.