SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

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OK.. for giggles... does ANYONE (even Caro) actually believe this:

"The AFL Commission has an open mind as to whether Essendon has breached the AFL rules and regulations and it is an important part of the Commission's inquiry and investigation that Essendon knows what is alleged and has every reasonable opportunity to respond to the allegations," Demetriou said.
 
This will all end up in the Supreme court, how can you possibly mount a defense to these charges in 2 weeks??? More like 2 months.
The other point id make is surely this all needs to go on hold till ASADA finish their investigations as surely their ultimate finding influence the outcome of this?? Can't see anything being resolved this side of Christmas.
 
DONatron said:
Gotta love how Channel 7 do not mention that the report released by the AFL was amended and there is a second copy that the club has put up on the website. NOT!!!

PROPAGANDA MESSAGING THIS IS AT ITS FINEST
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Why let the truth stand in the way of a good story
 

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If you will, just watch the first minute of Andy's presser today:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-21/dons-to-get-more-time

Very interesting that Vlad uses Dillon's name.. that Dillon assessed there being enough evidence, Dillon thought there was enough for charges, Dillon created the charges... my prediction that Vlad would cut and run when this turned ugly starting to look a little more likely.

So we are going to call in the club presidents and brief them on a CONFIDENTIAL investigation.. tell them OUR side of the story and that is somehow OK? Does EFC have an EQUAL chance to respond during this 'special' meeting.. do we have OUR general counsel coming in to brief the club presidents on OUR case and OUR position?

It's like bringing in the 'jury' two weeks before the hearing and outline the prosecutions case... unbelievable really.

I hope Little does the 'ring around' tonight and gets enough presidents to commit to a spill of the executive. Disgraceful and just getting worse. The AFL seems to want to bring the entire comp down to save face.. ugly.
 
Special edition of Footy Classified tonight at 9:40.

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i wasn't a fan of AD even before this whole issue started but he really is a joke. the size of his ego is absolutely unfathomable and it's a joke that he's been allowed to act the way he has and basically had free reign with nobody to answer to. if the commission had even a semblance of integrity about them they would at the VERY LEAST remove him entirely from this process
 
Dillon could be charged as a breach of duty and with breach of confidentiality.

So far that is two senior AFL figures that could be in very hot legal water over this.

And for what.. cause we didn't ring two references? Cause we didn't hold their hands for every injection?
 
rines said:
Dillon could be charged as a breach of duty and with breach of confidentiality.

So far that is two senior AFL figures that could be in very hot legal water over this.

And for what.. cause we didn't ring two references? Cause we didn't hold their hands for every injection?
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And don't forget, Jimmy wanted a little colour in his complexion. It's just not a good look, rines.
 

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Stormin10 said:
Finnis grandstanding stating the bleeding obvious when it comes to looking after players welfare however crossed the line IMO when he intimated EFC were guilty of the allegations.
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The AFLPA should also look in its own backyard.

Does the AFLPA have any policies re supplement use? Does it provide any education or advice to its members on their obligations and the risks of non-compliance?

Does the AFLPA fully support the Anti-Doping Code? Including the strict liability bit?

etc.
 
rines said:
Dillon could be charged as a breach of duty and with breach of confidentiality.

So far that is two senior AFL figures that could be in very hot legal water over this.

And for what.. cause we didn't ring two references? Cause we didn't hold their hands for every injection?
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I know you're being facetious, but please don't trivialise our failures, which are substantial. It only legitimises the other side's point of view. Our saving grace in all of this has been how badly the ensuing process has been handled by the AFL.
 
rines said:
If you will, just watch the first minute of Andy's presser today:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-21/dons-to-get-more-time

Very interesting that Vlad uses Dillon's name.. that Dillon assessed there being enough evidence, Dillon thought there was enough for charges, Dillon created the charges... my prediction that Vlad would cut and run when this turned ugly starting to look a little more likely.

So we are going to call in the club presidents and brief them on a CONFIDENTIAL investigation.. tell them OUR side of the story and that is somehow OK? Does EFC have an EQUAL chance to respond during this 'special' meeting.. do we have OUR general counsel coming in to brief the club presidents on OUR case and OUR position?

It's like bringing in the 'jury' two weeks before the hearing and outline the prosecutions case... unbelievable really.

I hope Little does the 'ring around' tonight and gets enough presidents to commit to a spill of the executive. Disgraceful and just getting worse. The AFL seems to want to bring the entire comp down to save face.. ugly.
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The issue is can we get support off the other clubs? What % majority would we need? They would probably acting outside their own best interests, and would have to show the strength in character and resolve that we have demonstrated. I just don't see it in them. The AFL have been very careful making sure to isolate only us. Even though Dank had ties at other clubs. Even though practices similar to what we have been accused of have been carried out at other clubs.

I can only see us winning this if we take the fight to court. Let the actions of the AFL and the Essendon FC in this affair be examined impartially, and then decide who is guilty of prejudicial conduct and bringing the game into disrepute.
 
cwootton said:
The AFLPA should also look in its own backyard.

Does the AFLPA have any policies re supplement use? Does it provide any education or advice to its members on their obligations and the risks of non-compliance?

Does the AFLPA fully support the Anti-Doping Code? Including the strict liability bit?

etc.
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Speaking of care for their players welfare where was Finnis and the AFLPA when Jobe's reputation was allowed to be destroyed by the AFL's lack of clarity over AOD being legal?
 
This has become bigger than football now - it's about justice and fairness. People's reputations have been smeared, and while the club has been at best negligent, and we've owned up to severe issues with our governance over the past couple of seasons, there are accusations being thrown that strike at the heart of people's characters, accusations that are not supported by evidence. This is an ugly and filthy mess. It didn't need to be, but the AFL allowed it to become such in their eagerness to be seen to have a 'big win' against a club that has been central to everything that is great about our sport for a hundred years and more.

I'm proud of Little for setting out the lines and taking a stand. The AFL's conduct has been loathsome, and they need to pay the price for it.
 
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