SALADA/VladFL: Slap on the wrist. - STRICTLY ESSENDON SUPPORTERS ONLY

[cymarak]

Why are we now accepting Hird may well be gone based on a new deal?

Cerberus has said the ride might get bumpy, there was an article in The Australian at the same time suggesting a deal involving Hird.

Right through this saga we have been saying people are adding 1 and 1 to make 3. Are we doing the same thing right now?

The ride getting bumpy doesn't necessarily mean we've arrived at the destination.

The ride has been bumpy for a long while

 

[Nifft]

I would never want this for anyone. Geelong do not deserve to be investigated and should not be. Just because we have to suffer through BS charges (some of them are fair enough), doesn't mean Geelong should.

I get what you are saying, if the AFL was actually being fair. But if the AFL are being fair they should drop those particular charges against us, not investigate Geelong.

No, to be consistent the AFL MUST investigate Geelong.

But they won't, and do you know why? Because the backlash would be far too great. There's no way in hell the AFL would survive going up against 2 clubs at the same time, so they won't touch GFC with a 10 foot pole.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

guys, before 2011 there was no S0. So Dank had a lot more freedom with the games he played at Geelong, sadly

The only thing they're trying to nail us with is Tb4 which is prohibited under S1-S9. S0 is irrelevant to us and Dank.

 

[MNC Bomber]

I would rather sacrifice draft picks than throw anyone under a bus they didn't deserve just so we could keep draft picks.

Would that be any better than tanking for draft picks?

Agreed. Culture is really important at football clubs. We need to protect and enhance the Essendon culture with a view to the long term. How we responded in crisis will be remembered and will form a significant part of our culture and history. Short term pain for long term gain is whats required.

 

[Pweter]

No, to be consistent the AFL MUST investigate Geelong.

But they won't, and do you know why? Because the backlash would be far too great. There's no way in hell the AFL would survive going up against 2 clubs at the same time, so they won't touch GFC with a 10 foot pole.

Let's not forget Robinson working at GC, you know, one of the 2 new AFL franchises..... hypocritical campaigners they are

 

[Goon_Squad]

If Hird was okay with it without pressure and drug cheat stigma was officially and publicly removed from the charges by the AFL with a press conference, and Essendon extended Hird's contract as senior coach to ensure he came back then I could live with it, but would not be happy.

Oh and at the press conference, James Hird could piss on Demetriou's face Panesar style. Without this, no deal.

This. Quarantines the damage to this year is a key point, but would need to drop the charges against Hird and the others IMO.

Bomber T to coach for 12 months is not a bad option.

 

[Nifft]

Fair enough, but in my opinion it's a little inconsistent to claim we want fairness and that those charges are bullshit on one hand while claiming Geelong should be investigated for bullshit reasons on the other.

Agree. I don't want to put GFC or its fans through this at all. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

But if there's evidence to suggest that any other club has done anything that we've been charged for, including being associated with Robinson or Dank in any way, then the AFL/ASADA absolutely must investigate them as well. And that includes Melbourne, GC and GFC. Anything less would make the AFL and ASADA a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[simoro1]

in better news im stoked for soundwave XD

 

[Blind Turn]

maybe, maybe not. It's interesting because I had typed out a last line on that last post, saying it might depend on what the players felt about it.

I'm not sure they'd walk out. In fact, if some of the crap I'm hearing is true, it might help retain some of them. Possibly.

We've come too far to relent. I think we're in it for the long haul. Hirdy being penalised = drug cheats to the rest the footy world for a long time. I worry that my kids will be ashamed to follow them. I want pride over future success. If it takes us ten years to challenge again I'd take that if the payout is redemption for the wrongs of this witch-hunt. We all need to be united behind Hirdy and the board or the division will cause our downfall and the media lies will have served their purpose.

 

[Kettles]

Many would have you believe he has been doing it since he came back to us.

Oh this is all too depressing. As someone eloquently put it in their signature:

AFL's modus operandi, Guilty until proven innocent.

 

[Coldacre]

You mean "Rake attack, as coach leaves" ?

You need the leaves pun bro.

if you had left off the second line that would have been post of the year

 

[DevilDon]

As much as i would hate to see hird being replaced, If essendon can accept to loose points and draft picks for this yr and cop a fine! i think this would be a good outcome for the club, as long as hird dosent stand down!!

 

[Tommy08]

Forget the other clubs.

Edit: Because it makes us look like whingers

 

[2one2]

Let's not forget Robinson working at GC, you know, one of the 2 new AFL franchises..... hypocritical sillys they are

Yep - charge the AFL for hiring Dean Robinson to GC nonf*ckingwistanding that there were "significant concerns about the manner in which Robinson had conducted himself." Charge Channel 7 for moving forward on an interview with Dean Robinson nonwithstanding that there were "significant concerns about the manner in which Robinson had conducted himself."

 

[Rack Watts]

if you had left off the second line that would have been post of the year

Thankfully, I have more opportunities.

 

[Pevers-Legend]

The only thing they're trying to nail us with is Tb4 which is prohibited under S1-S9. S0 is irrelevant to us and Dank.

Which raises the question, why haven't they?

And that's where this starts and ends for me.

 

[Pevers-Legend]

in better news im stoked for soundwave XD

Me too.

Awesome line up.

 

[Nifft]

Unfortunately Hird has ****** up, like it or not. If he has to go it sucks balls, but no-one is bigger than the club

Sorry Lance, but I still believe the punishment should fit the crime. Hird deserves a fair trial. What exactly has he done to justify burning him at the stake?

 

[DevilDon]

The players have been awesome this year, and full credit to them for turning up to play against such adversity!! and if essendon doesn't play finals this yr...they will play surely be motivated to play finals and who knows..maybe even a grand final next year!!

 

[Blind Turn]

As much as i would hate to see hird being replaced, If essendon can accept to loose points and draft picks for this yr and cop a fine! i think this would be a good outcome for the club, as long as hird dosent stand down!!

No

 

[Rack Watts]

The players have been awesome this year, and full credit to them for turning up to play against such adversity!! and if essendon doesn't play finals this yr...they will play surely be motivated to play finals and who knows..maybe even a grand final next year!!

I know we've been told off about this...
But really?

 

[Costanza Velvet]

Points stripped from this season + Keeping draft picks = Tom Boyd in Red and Black... right?

Sadly No. Our first pick will be as if we finished 7th on the ladder meaning something like pick 12

 

[ManWithNoName]

if you had left off the second line that would have been post of the year

"COACH LEAVES AMIDST RAKE ATTACK" is better.

 

[2one2]

Which raises the question, why haven't they?

And that's where this starts and ends for me.

It's really strange. Tim Watson said that in the parents' meeting they were told that there was no evidence any player had taken Tb4. But there has to be more evidence from Essendon to back that up because the reported circumstantial evidence for Tb4 looks incontrovertible. I don't understand.

 

[Blind Turn]

2 books to read; Making News by Tony Wilson and The Crucible- a play by Arthur Miller.