SC Points are changing

[thokash]

I couldn't find where it outlined this bit in the Herald Sun.

Sorry kind of merged 2 different points into this statement, there was a specific points allocation for "Backwards kicks" being scored as 1 point.

Here's a terrible quality photo I took of the work paper:

 

[Rourke]

Agree, overall we probably won't notice any difference. Most likely this formula has been used for the preseason scores and nothing really is jumping out.

There are differences of 10-20 points for some players with the change of formula from what I've seen. The worse news is that pre-season values were based on last year's formula - not sure why it's been done that way but the first any of us will see of the results is this weekend. I'll see what else I can dig up.

 

[bailz66]

Rourke are you sure about the old system for the last few weeks?

 

[syl]

There are differences of 10-20 points for some players with the change of formula from what I've seen. The worse news is that pre-season values were based on last year's formula - not sure why it's been done that way but the first any of us will see of the results is this weekend. I'll see what else I can dig up.

What are some of the players most adversely affected?

 

[nethermage]

new system could explain schultz's massive score against GWS

 

[Rourke]

Rourke are you sure about the old system for the last few weeks?

99%+ sure, it would be worth getting someone to confirm it officially though. I was really hoping they'd give us some idea of what it would have meant to last year's figures, but at the very least pre-season. Maybe they can't do that if it uses all the new physical pressure and implied pressure stats that are in today's Herald Sun but weren't recorded last year. Disclaimer: I don't know whether they are in the new formula or not.

 

[bailz66]

Already sent CD an email awaiting a reply at the moment. If i hear will let you guys know

 

[Rourke]

What are some of the players most adversely affected?

Like everyone else, I've had to make Buddy a certainty with free kicks not as damaging. But going the other way? I'm not sure ... I think they wanted to scale down low-pressure stats like backwards kicks but then uncontested marks have gone up. We'll have to wait & see

 

[WhisperingsOfWar]

When i see that chart to me it seems like a backwards kick to an opponent is worth 5 points because it's both an effective kick (4) and backwards (1) but am i wrong and it's only worth 1.

 

[syl]

When i see that chart to me it seems like a backwards kick to an opponent is worth 5 points because it's both an effective kick (4) and backwards (1) but am i wrong and it's only worth 1.

Worth 1.

 

[Blueboys11]

What about a centreing backwards kick inside your attacking forward 50. Say from the behind post to 30 meters out. Would be stiff to only get 1 for that

 

[syl]

What about a centreing backwards kick inside your attacking forward 50. Say from the behind post to 30 meters out. Would be stiff to only get 1 for that

That would probably be marked as an effective kick, not a backwards kick,

I think Backwards kicks are those useless keepings off kicks.

 

[WhisperingsOfWar]

so whom are the backwards kickers of the league?

 

[syl]

so whom are the backwards kickers of the league?

Richmond.

Just talking of the half backs that go the easy switching kicks all day.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

That would probably be marked as an effective kick, not a backwards kick,

I think Backwards kicks are those useless keepings off kicks.

Another reason not to start with Lake...

 

[syl]

Another reason not to start with Lake...

Pick him up after their first bye or so and when he drops some $$$$

I am really interested to see how round 1 scores turn out now :/

 

[ThePezDispenser]

I don't like the look if his injury - It's stated as Hip/Back and Shoulder.

 

[dlanod]

Another reason not to start with Lake...

Not that I'm starting with Lake, but his points for contested marks off an opposition kick should be very very nice.

 

[Clunk]

The cynic in me asks "is this CD trying to distribute points more to defenders and fwds since we are so reliant on having midfield super-premiums?"

I have a feeling this is just moving existing unpublished measures into the public domain though.

 

[Blueboys11]

The cynic in me asks "is this CD trying to distribute points more to defenders and fwds since we are so reliant on having midfield super-premiums?"

I have a feeling this is just moving existing unpublished measures into the public domain though.

I agree, long effective kickers have already been getting bonuses above those who rack up big stats with shorter kicks. Thinking Hurn,Gilbee etc. Have consistently been able to manage higher scores from less disposals.

Maybe there is no real change on the long kicking stuff...just the free kicks, clangers and backward kicks

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Not that I'm starting with Lake, but his points for contested marks off an opposition kick should be very very nice.

Yeah, Definitely still an upgrade option if he gets back to full fitness

 

[WhisperingsOfWar]

Not that I'm starting with Lake, but his points for contested marks off an opposition kick should be very very nice.

i dont think that category has changed.

 

[dlanod]

i dont think that category has changed.

It's listed as being worth eight points now. I don't know what it used to be, but it seems weird for them to list it if it hasn't changed.

 

[Ed D]

It's always been 8 points IIRC because those have always been gold along with goals.

 

[dontaskfev]

don't like the new changes, well mostly because they have been introduced so close to the season .
as for kicks backwards as one has already stated a centering kick that goes backwards in the forward line only being worth 1 point?
what about a 55meter kick switching the play that goes marginally backwards? surely common sense comes into play.