Schoenmakers gets to have the final say

[sidneyshaw]

Shoenmakers - helping bums get paid

Cloke qualifying, Tippett tonight

 

[Gaben]

Shoenmakers - helping bums get paid

Cloke qualifying, Tippett tonight

LRT to go nuts next week. Or maybe a surprise resurrection for Jesse White's career?

 

[SSSSSS]

This is a final though, and we all know what happens to Shoey in finals.

He is the biggest liability currently in your side, the problem that is him needs solving.

He is definately the biggest liability but he is a young kid and he really is the only one we have that can play that position (Gilham came off a knee reco and is no where near the form he should be in). In our best case scenario we would have another big key defender but we don't have that, circumstances mean that Schoey is our big key player.

He is a young player and I'm sure he will improve in the years to come, but I'm hoping that that improvement comes next week because we are going to need it.

I still don't understand why people like to hang shit on young players such as Watts, Schoey and as of yesterday Fasolo. They are 20-21 FFS give them a break.

 

[Dory_77]

LRT to go nuts next week. Or maybe a surprise resurrection for Jesse White's career?

Or Mitch Morton to restore the reputation of the Morton name in the AFL?

 

[Some Idiot]

Lake copped a bit of a bath today. What is his record like this season on the big guerilla forwards?

Fyi Lake usually destroys the big gorillas but gets blown up by athletic machines like Nick Riewoldt.

 

[forwardflanker]

Sydney have no power forwards to put Shoe to the sword.

Sydney could give Mitch Morton the paddock and he would put Schoenmakers to the sword - that's how bad Schoenmakers is

 

[sidneyshaw]

LRT to go nuts next week. Or maybe a surprise resurrection for Jesse White's career?

LRT to get his norm smith

Not sure what Henry Playfair is upto these days but if he is in the bag trade...

 

[The Fact]

I can't understand why Rivers isn't being link to the hawks would be a perfect fit for them atm/ next year. Is there enough room in their cap or is it pretty tight for the hawks atm.

 

[sidneyshaw]

I can't understand my Rivers isn't being link to the hawks would be a perfect fit for them atm/ next year. Is there enough room in their cap or is it pretty tight for the hawks atm.

Rivers should go to a club - Geelong or similar where he could truly be a 3rd tall defender and peel off

Hawks would put him on the gorillas

 

[Dory_77]

I can't understand my Rivers isn't being link to the hawks would be a perfect fit for them atm/ next year. Is there enough room in their cap or is it pretty tight for the hawks atm.

Rivers plays his best in a Gibson sorta role; peeling off his man and going 3rd man up to intercept/spoil opposition attacks. Isn't cut out for taking big forwards one on one.

 

[The Fact]

Reid is a young beanpole and has barely fired a shot all year.

Mumford, Pyke aren't big goalkickers.

Goodes is the one most likely, but it depends how long he plays midfield. His radar is off as well for the set shot.

LRT is just a role player.

Need a Hawkins/Cloke/Walker type power forward to maul Shoe.

Gumby kicked 4 on him in a loss that was nearly a 100 points or was a 100 point loss can't remember

 

[Budgey]

I almost cried when it looked like he'd directly cost us our second prelim in succession. Last year he was worse than Buddy's brilliance, so cost us the game. This year Rioli's magic just won out.

May well cost us the flag nest week.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I don't usually like to insult opposition players but Schoenmakers is crap. I don't know why the Hawks keep persisting with him.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

I don't usually like to insult opposition players but Schoenmakers is crap. I don't know why the Hawks keep persisting with him.

Last quarter tackle on tippet(?) effectively won us the game

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Last quarter tackle on tippet(?) effectively won us the game

Yeah maybe. He's definitely the weak link though. The Hawks have a star-studded line up and he's not even close to that level.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Josh Kennedy to push forward and absolutely monster him.

 

[Sixpence]

I don't usually like to insult opposition players but Schoenmakers is crap. I don't know why the Hawks keep persisting with him.

Quite simply, because they don't judge him solely on the bad games he has. He has actually been very good all year. Though, he seems to have lost all confidence the last two weeks. He is quite capable of playing much better footy than the shit he served up today. Just needs to get his head right (and hopefully very soon!).

Last quarter tackle on tippet(?) effectively won us the game

If anything was a match-winning tackle, it would be Stratts on Danger.

 

[Gaben]

Last quarter tackle on tippet(?) effectively won us the game

Stratton's tackle of Dangerfield won the game. Schoey's everything on everyone was what effectively kept Adelaide in it.

 

[Eth]

I can't understand why Rivers isn't being link to the hawks would be a perfect fit for them atm/ next year. Is there enough room in their cap or is it pretty tight for the hawks atm.

As pointed out, Rivers doesn't have the size.

Had five kicked on him in a half against Cloke on QB a year or two back, IIRC.

 

[Glenno23]

People are always quick to write off the talls when they are still young. Does everyone always forget that KPD's take more time to develop than other spots?

 

[The2ndComing]

His game was fine.

That is our one potential weakness and luckily we are going to play the one team without the potential to exploit it. Even if Goodes pops up and take a couple of marks he aint going to kick them under pressure.

 

[The Fact]

His game was fine.

That is our one potential weakness and luckily we are going to play the one team without the potential to exploit it. Even if Goodes pops up and take a couple of marks he aint going to kick them under pressure.

Are you insane his game was not fine he was given a bath today and while it doesn't matter to much as you guys won, he nearly cost you the game it was almost the 2011 prem all over again.

 

[Mad Dog 32]

I think its funny that the Hawk's supporters on this board feel the necessity to stick up for Shoenmakers. He is clearly the weakest link in an otherwise outstanding team. Contrary to what the Shoenmakers Defence Team might tell us, he'd only get a game elsewhere for GWS and Gold Coast. Talk of him becoming a star or an AA is just Hawthorn fans living in denial. The guy is a total dud and everyone can see it except the Hawthorn diehards who instinctively think everyone to pull on the brown and gold is the next Leigh Matthews.

He'll probably go down as one of the weakest players ever to win a Premiership medal. Good luck to the kid. Fortunately for him the Hawks are that good they can carry him. However, it makes the centre clearances so crucial next week. If the Swans dominate them and isolote Shoenmakers one-out they might just have a chance at winning. Otherwise it will be the Hawks by about 40 after a tight first half.

As for tonight, two players nearly won the Crows through to the Grand Final against all odds. Patrick Dangerfield and Ryan Shoenmakers.

 

[John Swindon]

Adelaide's bigs kicked 8 of 14 today... The Hawthorn defence struggled.

 

[forwardflanker]

His game was fine.

That is our one potential weakness and luckily we are going to play the one team without the potential to exploit it. Even if Goodes pops up and take a couple of marks he aint going to kick them under pressure.

What are you talking about he was destroyed. The reason it got so close despite the inside 50 discrepancy was because he and a few others got destroyed.

Sanderson coached very well in that respect, hope sydney were watching