Education & Reference School Detention do not serve a real purpose

[smiths]

no school detention, no breakfast club.

no breakfast club, no epic quotes

 

[Brad Roo]

Well, dissent is fine to a point, as people can't just blindly accept authority. But I meant discipline in terms of accepting that others do have power over you, whether you like that or not. There are going to be times later in life you're just going to have to do what you're told. Accepting discipline, I think, is part of learning about respect.

The uberconservative.

You have nothing in common with Da Vinci, Socrates or Thomas Jefferson, that's for sure.

 

[getthefooty]

From my experience more students are worried about getting the detention slip signed by their parents than experiencing the actual dentention.

 

[santo15]

School detention's these days don't stop students doing the things that got them the detention again. They will not learn their lesson. Detention is pointless

 

[anthonyjm]

School detention's these days don't stop students doing the things that got them the detention again. They will not learn their lesson. Detention is pointless

You see my point. Thank you Santo15

 

[Illinois Nazi]

I guess serial rapists shouldn't be jailed either, they'll just go out and do it again anyway.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

I never saw the point of suspensions either. The kid getting told to stay at home probably just thinks "Great, time off school".

Some times, but school really means a lot to lots of kids. Acting up means an audience, socialisation etc. They may say they hate it, but its the best part of their life whether they realise it or not.

The uberconservative.

You have nothing in common with Da Vinci, Socrates or Thomas Jefferson, that's for sure.

As a general rule, women are incapable of saying/thinking/doing anything that is not wholly endorsed by the power structures.

Their 'thinking' extends only so far they find better and more articulate ways of endorsing what their boss says.

 

[anthonyjm]

I guess serial rapists shouldn't be jailed either, they'll just go out and do it again anyway.

????

 

[penguinhunter102]

this is so true detentions do not achieve anything they just waste your time

 

[penguinhunter102]

I guess serial rapists shouldn't be jailed either, they'll just go out and do it again anyway.

what does this have to do with school detentions?

 

[Dan_Nickels]

I guess serial rapists shouldn't be jailed either, they'll just go out and do it again anyway.

Okay.

 

[Caesar]

Thread is worthless without the OP suggesting alternatives.

None of these criticisms are remotely new or groundbreaking. The tricky bit is coming up with something better. Reality is that a proportion of kids are just stupid and no punishment is going to be a disincentive for them. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't be punished at all.

 

[anthonyjm]

Let's be real - a kid getting detention after school isn't going to be doing an hour of homework as soon as they get home, so it's ridiculous to suggest that it's basically the same thing.

Idiocy.

Most students like myself do their homework as soon as they get home

 

[volcboy]

As a teacher, I have the following perspectives:

I give students detentions only very rarely, and only after I have gone through a lot of other options (discussing any issues directly with the student in an open and honest manner, trying different strategies to help students realise why their behaviour is wrong/disruptive and helping them to change it etc.).

If I do end up giving a detention, I always make sure that there is something specific that the student needs to do - some unfinished work/homework, something related to what the behaviour was (i.e. cleaning up an area of the school, writing about their behaviour and/or writing to others who their behaviour has affected).

I have only given one detention this year - I organised a conference with the student and his mother and talked about why the detention (2 hours on a Friday) had been given and ensured that I had parental support and understanding.

Having said all of that, if there is no parental understanding or support and a lack of student willingness to change behaviour, then a detention is not going to change anything. In this case, there is actually not much that a teacher/school can do at all.

 

[smiths]

Bring back the cane!

 

[Brad Roo]

As a general rule, women are incapable of saying/thinking/doing anything that is not wholly endorsed by the power structures.

Their 'thinking' extends only so far they find better and more articulate ways of endorsing what their boss says.

Agree. It's no wonder that marketing/advertising/political correctness are so strongly targetted at womens interests these days.

There is much more likelihood of manipulating men through manipulating women than there is in attempting to control men directly.

Of course, there will probably be women that will be offended by your comments, but that doesn't make it any less of a truth.

 

[magic_johnson!]

We either get a Monday detention which goes for an hour and a half after school which was spent writing school rules from the diary or a Saturday detention where, wearing school uniform, you go round picking up rubbish from 9am-12.

I wouldn't mind doing the detention, it's making your parents come and pick you up afterward and the amount of crap they give you about it.

 

[smiths]

At my school we had lunchtime detentions which lasted for 20 minutes and no one really cared about.

Scab duty was the thing everyone tried to avoid. They made you wear a fluorescent vest and everyone pretty much threw garbage at you expecting you to pick it up.

 

[penguinhunter102]

treu bro

 

[anthonyjm]

At my school we had lunchtime detentions which lasted for 20 minutes and no one really cared about.

Scab duty was the thing everyone tried to avoid. They made you wear a fluorescent vest and everyone pretty much threw garbage at you expecting you to pick it up.

This would be an example of an alternative to a detention

 

[penguinhunter102]

soooo true

 

[penguinhunter102]

yeha i made first comment on page 4

 

[anthonyjm]

soooo true

Haha first comment page 4

 

[penguinhunter102]

yeha i know how exciting

 

[smiths]

This would be an example of an alternative to a detention

Thanks for that insightful analysis.