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If there was a points penalty imposed on clubs recruiting players eligible for junior football (say Under 15's and above), then it might slow or stop this practice. It's been happening for years now with clubs in the Essendon and Eastern leagues among the most active participants.

How about adding 2 points to that player and it stays attached to them while they are at their new club until they turn 21.

It would really come into play if a club's recruitment policy centres around pilfering talented players from other junior clubs. Five talented teens from other clubs would attract a decent deterrent of 10 points until they turn 21 and the upshot should be that the club focuses more on developing the players that they already have.
 
MortlockWatcher said:
If there was a points penalty imposed on clubs recruiting players eligible for junior football (say Under 15's and above), then it might slow or stop this practice. It's been happening for years now with clubs in the Essendon and Eastern leagues among the most active participants.

How about adding 2 points to that player and it stays attached to them while they are at their new club until they turn 21.

It would really come into play if a club's recruitment policy centres around pilfering talented players from other junior clubs. Five talented teens from other clubs would attract a decent deterrent of 10 points until they turn 21 and the upshot should be that the club focuses more on developing the players that they already have.
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Think you’re on the mark. To be honest it’s just something a club shouldn’t be doing.
 
Bunk Moreland said:
You’re a fair way off the mark - your comments aren’t based in reality or experience, clearly.

Some clubs are gifted piles of cash and for them it is relatively easy.

For everybody else there is a hell of a lot of work and talent required. Attracting and retaining valuable sponsorships, controlling costs, running profitable concessions and events… all to produce the money required.

If you have people with the brains and experience - and most importantly, time - to do all this stuff then you’re in a very good spot. But that’s generally a case of luck in terms of who walks through the door. It’s not the professional level, clubs can’t pay six figures for a CEO who knows how to do all this stuff.

If you have these skills and time then it’s great luck for you and your club, but not everybody
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Ok mate, you got me. I’ve no experience and have no idea what I’m talking about.
You are bang on….
 
Bunk Moreland said:
You’re a fair way off the mark - your comments aren’t based in reality or experience, clearly.

Some clubs are gifted piles of cash and for them it is relatively easy.

For everybody else there is a hell of a lot of work and talent required. Attracting and retaining valuable sponsorships, controlling costs, running profitable concessions and events… all to produce the money required.

If you have people with the brains and experience - and most importantly, time - to do all this stuff then you’re in a very good spot. But that’s generally a case of luck in terms of who walks through the door. It’s not the professional level, clubs can’t pay six figures for a CEO who knows how to do all this stuff.

If you have these skills and time then it’s great luck for you and your club, but not everybody does.
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you’ve just rolled off a list of challenges that all clubs face at some point in their journey. ALL clubs!! The cash never lasts, people come and go, in every club.

My point is there’s clubs that meet the challenges head on, find innovative ways to create revenue and attract sponsorship, recruit well. Then theres clubs that just complain about how hard done by they are, it’s the leagues fault, or a clubs over the salary cap, or a club’s pinching their juniors. Just glass a half empty mentality that is not helpful and honestly, no one wants to hear that shit. Certainly supporters or potential sponsors and players.

Never said it wasn’t hard. Just because you don’t agree with me, doesn’t mean there’s no merit in what I’m saying.
 
Squib said:
you’ve just rolled off a list of challenges that all clubs face at some point in their journey. ALL clubs!! The cash never lasts, people come and go, in every club.

My point is there’s clubs that meet the challenges head on, find innovative ways to create revenue and attract sponsorship, recruit well. Then theres clubs that just complain about how hard done by they are, it’s the leagues fault, or a clubs over the salary cap, or a club’s pinching their juniors. Just glass a half empty mentality that is not helpful and honestly, no one wants to hear that shit. Certainly supporters or potential sponsors and players.

Never said it wasn’t hard. Just because you don’t agree with me, doesn’t mean there’s no merit in what I’m saying.
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Squib said:
you’ve just rolled off a list of challenges that all clubs face at some point in their journey. ALL clubs!! The cash never lasts, people come and go, in every club.

My point is there’s clubs that meet the challenges head on, find innovative ways to create revenue and attract sponsorship, recruit well. Then theres clubs that just complain about how hard done by they are, it’s the leagues fault, or a clubs over the salary cap, or a club’s pinching their juniors. Just glass a half empty mentality that is not helpful and honestly, no one wants to hear that shit. Certainly supporters or potential sponsors and players.

Never said it wasn’t hard. Just because you don’t agree with me, doesn’t mean there’s no merit in what I’m saying.
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It’s not that - you’re just missing the point.
 
I don't think it should be purely on previous seasons finish - do Powelltown deserve the most PP's after winning 2 of the last 3 flags?

What about teams going up/down divisions?

I see some merit in some form of scaling, just not sure what that looks like
 
NorthernBastard said:
I don't think it should be purely on previous seasons finish - do Powelltown deserve the most PP's after winning 2 of the last 3 flags?

What about teams going up/down divisions?

I see some merit in some form of scaling, just not sure what that looks like
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The points system definitely needs a few adjustments but yes agreed it shouldn't be judged off one season.
 
NorthernBastard said:
I don't think it should be purely on previous seasons finish - do Powelltown deserve the most PP's after winning 2 of the last 3 flags?

What about teams going up/down divisions?

I see some merit in some form of scaling, just not sure what that looks like
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With this scaling system winning two in a row would be a far great achievement especially if you don't go up a division..
 
NorthernBastard said:
I don't think it should be purely on previous seasons finish - do Powelltown deserve the most PP's after winning 2 of the last 3 flags?

What about teams going up/down divisions?

I see some merit in some form of scaling, just not sure what that looks like
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More than likely they would be regarded as the lowest ranked team and have the most points to account for the rise in standard and the need to recruit in order to be competitive.
 
Not sure where Div 1 sits but the top 4 or 5 premier sides never really went close to point allocation. Could likely drop the total points down but will that really help balance the competitiveness of this division? I don’t think so.


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