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Well compared to the 3 cadets that were up there in the GF sure. The bare isn’t set high on that day
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Well compared to the 3 cadets that were up there in the GF sure. The bare isn’t set high on that day
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Remember last preseason when they said that Francis was tearing up the track. He couldn't cope at AFL level.
I'd say its far more realistic that some of the forwards were off doing other drills/rehab that they chucked Tommy as a makeshift forward and McKirdy ran with it after Coxy said he wanted some positional versatility.
I'd say its far more realistic that some of the forwards were off doing other drills/rehab that they chucked Tommy as a makeshift forward and McKirdy ran with it after Coxy said he wanted some positional versatility.
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With all of the discussion about Chad being the club's #1, top priority to extend, which of the other OOC players rank next in the order of priority to also re-sign? Amongst them: Sheldrick, Campbell, Cleary, Melican, Lloyd, Fox, Wicks
LukeParkerno1
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In order
1. Cleary
2. Melican (within reason though not some 4 year deal)
3. Sheldrick
The rest not fussed whether we do or don't, Lloyd would offer a 1 or 2 year extension or something. Would delist Fox/Wicks probably, Fox is a maybe for depth.
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Sheldrick has barely played how is he a priority over Campbell, Lloyd etc
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Lloyd I said I'd give a year or 2 extension, no issue there. Don't rate Campbell to be honest he may prove me wrong but right now I won't be fussed if we delist/trade to the highest suitor.
Sheldrick is purely in a position we are thin in, similar to Melican to be honest. We don't have a million inside midfielders
Swans Fans: Swans should be ashamed of themselves, most players didn't even show up for the grand final. We need to make changes so that we can perform on grand final day.
Fox enters the room
Swans Fans: Sorry Robbie, you're just too boring for us, and Horse was throwing you all around the ground disrupting any continuity. Thanks for showing up and trying on grand final day again, but we don't need players like you in the 22 or maybe even on the list.
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Sounds ridiculous I know.
Fox enters the room
Swans Fans: Sorry Robbie, you're just too boring for us, and Horse was throwing you all around the ground disrupting any continuity. Thanks for showing up and trying on grand final day again, but we don't need players like you in the 22 or maybe even on the list.
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Sounds ridiculous I know.
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I'd say Melican and then the rest to be determined by how their season goes.
As I said in his thread yesterday, Lloyd could end up overtaken and on the fringes by next year. You're not desperate to keep that player. But if he successfully reinvents himself as a gun wingman...
Campbell, Sheldrick and Wicks I think are all in the same boat. If they're not established in the best 22 by the end of next year then it wouldn't be the end of the world if they explored their options.
I have Fox & Cleary as the lowest priorities, not because I don't rate them - I'm more of a fan of these two than the three above - but because I just can't see them going next year. Fox will be 32 at the end of next year and it's a safe bet to assume he'll get his yearly one-year contract to take him through to age 33. And Cleary is a local kid and it would only be the end of his second year. If we're losing him then something's gone seriously wrong.
Melican is DEFINETELY getting a four year deal somewhere.
And is far more deserving of it than some of the guys getting longer ones currently.
He is the most crucial of the 3 you name as we don't have any options within the club. Whether he wants to stay in Sydney I have NFI. Norf will offer him 4 years @$750k in a hearbeat and he'll play finals the following four years. So we'll want to match that or lose one of only two viable KPDs we have.
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If it is 4, I'd like the last year in our favour. His injury record scares me giving him that long a contract.
A couple of those will be traded if they have ordinary years
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Do any have value aside from Campbell and I have zero idea what value that is, it certainly wouldn't be what we paid for him. A pick in the 30's? Sheldrick would I guess to WCE/Freo. Who else though can't see any of those having a lot of value. Melican will be resigned so I'm not counting him. Wicks and Fox aren't worth anything on a trade table.
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Na but been a long period so need a fraction of a break on that front lol
I kind of look at it the other way round. Who will we lose, and who will we WANT to lose.
I think we should plan to lose both Warners (VERY happy of course to keep both).
Beyond that I think all of our older brigade except Hamling are fit/strong/good enough to keep on, even if one year at a time, even as depth. We'll delist Francis if Edwards and/or Snell come on well enough, otherwise one year. I think we may end up keeping only one of Paton and Leidler. Kirk? Beats me. Mitchell will need to do very well with Chamberlain and King coming in. IMO he'll go. Depends on Green but I think we'll offer Ladhams another year.
Assuming Sheldrick signs on.
We may only want 4 or 5 slots in the draft. My guess:
Chad
Francis
Corey
Hamling
Paton
If Chad and Corey stay Mitchell and Kirk to go.
If Francis stays maybe Ladhams goes.
Lots of assumptions about how people go.
You'd like that, but that's not how the market works. He's getting 4 years @ full money.
Whether he gets injured or not is out of everybody's control.
We retain him or we get a Francis like guy in to replace him I guess given nobody is in a hurry to move to Sydney and watch their real income shrink by 25% due to housing costs.
LukeParkerno1
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Million dollar footballers complaining about housing costs is always a bit of a laugh for me.
Look I expect him to get at least 3 years, if it's 4 I'll be fine with it but don't come knocking when the last year is riddled with injuries, it's a risk that's all I'm saying.
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I'm the opposite, I have players like Cleary and Sheldrick as the highest priorities
In Cleary's case specifically, I don't think it matters if he's a Sydney local, if he feels that the offer to extend and stay isn't adequate, he and his manager will look elsewhere for a better deal.
I think we're only now seeing how crucial he was to the success of the 2023 Allies team. He looks so much more complete than McKercher and Sanders. I agree that we should be prioritising them.
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His hands were so clean I'm that 2023 Allies team. Him and Rogers were a lethal 1-2 punch and didn't draw the attention given the guns in that team.
No surprises, but I have Cleary and Sheldrick as the top priorities.
With Campbell not far behind.
All of those players have big upside & losing them would be extremely disappointing.
Melican is next. He’s no superstar, but until Snell is ready, he’s desperately needed.
Then Lloyd. Chronically underrated and still important.
Fox is near the end - a stalwart, but not critical to the team. If he accepts one year, good & well.
Wicks is lowest priority in my book.
I don't think the question of "will Warner go back to WA" applies anymore. I think the only relevant question is "when".
If I'm correct, there will be no value at all if he leaves at the end of '27. The draft will be heavily favoured for Tassie and any draft picks we get from WCE, for example, will be pushed back significantly.
That being said, I would rather he goes to the Eagles in '26 and we can have their 25 and 26 first round picks as a starting point.
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I like Cleary a lot, but by the end of next year he'd have been in the system for two seasons. He would be 20 years old and in his first year in the best 22 (if he manages that.) If he is not willing to take whatever we give him, even if it is perceived unders, then I'm not sure I'd even want to keep him.
Re Sheldrick, next year will be his fourth year at the club. If he hasn't made further progress on establishing himself in the senior team, then he hardly seems like someone we should be prioritising.
Both show/have shown plenty of promise. Both second tier draft picks nowhere near their ceilings. Neither should be in line to be dropped off.
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I agree with the concerns raised in this (ie. that if we play McCartin forward our defence could be left vulnerable), but they're so dumb when they say "the Swans only have one top-line defender and that's McCartin." If McCartin's a top-line defender at this stage then I am Keith Richards.
There's also a guy called Lewis Melican, who I actually thought was better than McCartin this year. But they've never heard of him.
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There's also a guy called Lewis Melican, who I actually thought was better than McCartin this year. But they've never heard of him.
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