Ah well, as long as we have All Australians in the team, that's the ultimate measure of success.
That really comforted me at the G on grand final day.
Sadly the fans around me wouldn't listen to reason and kept banging on about premierships.
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That really comforted me at the G on grand final day.
Sadly the fans around me wouldn't listen to reason and kept banging on about premierships.
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I wonder who will be our breakout player next year ie the guy who is on the fringe but works there way into best 22?
I've got Cleary, Buller, Datolli and Bice on my watch list for forcing their way in.
I've got Cleary, Buller, Datolli and Bice on my watch list for forcing their way in.
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Campbell needs to have a mindset of taking whatever position he thinks his rightfully his. He has the skills and his starring sub role showed he has tenacity to dominate contests. He just has to bring it every week and not people please.
If Heeney cannot run out a season playing mid every game, then he should have rests during the season. Playing him forward to rest will not rest him enough and take him away from his star status position.
Grundy should never be trusted again to know when he needs to take a rest. Ladhams should have opportunities to solo ruck. We should also trial Amartey and McLean sharing ruck with both Grundy and Ladhams out of the team.
If Heeney cannot run out a season playing mid every game, then he should have rests during the season. Playing him forward to rest will not rest him enough and take him away from his star status position.
Grundy should never be trusted again to know when he needs to take a rest. Ladhams should have opportunities to solo ruck. We should also trial Amartey and McLean sharing ruck with both Grundy and Ladhams out of the team.
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Move Logan and Joel back in defence. They have brilliant form in spoiling other forwards trying to mark (ie each other).
Haydos moves slower than a turtle on valium stuck in treacle, dunno what to do with him.
Haydos moves slower than a turtle on valium stuck in treacle, dunno what to do with him.
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Against Brisbane, the consensus going in from those in the industry was that Sydney’s top 4-6 players were a bit better than Brisbane’s (unfortunately they didn’t play that way on the day) but that Brisbane’s next 10-12 players were better than Sydney’s.
On the whole, I think this is true. To me this means that we need 5 or so middle tier players to really step up, and even better if they do so by pushing bottom 6 players out of the team.
If Cleary, Sheldrick and maybe Datolli can step up, and Cox can find a way to unlock our tall talent (I have no idea how, but imagine a switch of Logan and McCartin and they both play better), then we go a very long way to being a formidable team.
On the whole, I think this is true. To me this means that we need 5 or so middle tier players to really step up, and even better if they do so by pushing bottom 6 players out of the team.
If Cleary, Sheldrick and maybe Datolli can step up, and Cox can find a way to unlock our tall talent (I have no idea how, but imagine a switch of Logan and McCartin and they both play better), then we go a very long way to being a formidable team.
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Elephant in the room is the "work" done by the Swans in the mindful space.
Has it helped? Is it why this playing group is considered the softest in the AFL?
The team was flying in the home and away season.
Folded on the biggest stage...again
Continually coasted and left the door open for oppo teams...to a level never seen.
Could go on, but is this the main reason for failing when the stakes are the highest?
Has it helped? Is it why this playing group is considered the softest in the AFL?
The team was flying in the home and away season.
Folded on the biggest stage...again
Continually coasted and left the door open for oppo teams...to a level never seen.
Could go on, but is this the main reason for failing when the stakes are the highest?
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Trouble is Brisbane, even despite the loss of Daniher, have Ashcroft x 2, Marshall, Fletcher, Morris that can do the same, and then you have Coleman coming back into the mix too.
The Swans will be in the top 3-4 again this season absolutely, and agree with the premise of what you're saying, but a team like Brisbane only got stronger this off season.
I’ve said it before & I’ll say it again:
The Heeney apology video was the point at which our season was doomed.
Not because of Heeney himself, but because it showed the mindset of the club.
I found it weak & pitiful … and Horse would have Ok’ed it.
Seriously for once 86 ,this is for the season coming and that's good to read what people think going forward in to the next season . Then there is the one talking about the pathetic GF performance , so why does the gloom have to come on here ?
See ya off to cricket
4 years yep..
where does $600k come from? not that I know any of the salaries or how they're structured, but that seems excessive
FFS.. If you've got nothing productive to contribute,, then leave
If the Swans are so shit.. then follow someone else
I think everyone on here understands that you're pissed off about the GF . You've posted 273 times how shit they were, how shit Horse was, how shit the psychologist was and how shit the club is. I get your point, like I said, you've made it 273 times!
So now we have done our drafting, changed our coach and talked about hardening up. What changes will that bring? Sorry, but I don't see any of consequence compared to the team above.
Dattoli, Hanily or Cleary for Wicks* maybe for a 1% improvement. A rearrangement of midfield tactics. The big one would be Edwards or Snell coming in but would most likely replace Fox or possibly Roberts.
Changing to two tall forwards is tricky as ideally one would be replaced by a medium. Probably Florent. Not much of an improvement in pressure. Maybe. So how might that look?
FB: Cunningham McCartin Rampe
HB: Roberts Melican Blakey
C: Gulden Mills McInerney
HF: Jordon McDonald Warner
FF: Papley Amartey Hayward
R: Grundy Heeney Rowbottom
IC: Snell Lloyd Sheldrick Dattoli* Florent
Zero difference in the 22 but 3 changes on the bench. Defence a little taller. Snell replaces KPDs when they rest. Attack more mobile. Still using Jordon as a tagger. Warner rotating through the midfield.
Hard to see bigger change than that.
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Snell on the bench is a waste tbh. The max he would get would be 51.1% TOG and thats also going off avg tog including injury games for all the talls.So now we have done our drafting, changed our coach and talked about hardening up. What changes will that bring? Sorry, but I don't see any of consequence compared to the team above.
Dattoli, Hanily or Cleary for Wicks* maybe for a 1% improvement. A rearrangement of midfield tactics. The big one would be Edwards or Snell coming in but would most likely replace Fox or possibly Roberts.
Changing to two tall forwards is tricky as ideally one would be replaced by a medium. Probably Florent. Not much of an improvement in pressure. Maybe. So how might that look?
FB: Cunningham McCartin Rampe
HB: Roberts Melican Blakey
C: Gulden Mills McInerney
HF: Jordon McDonald Warner
FF: Papley Amartey Hayward
R: Grundy Heeney Rowbottom
IC: Snell Lloyd Sheldrick Dattoli* Florent
Zero difference in the 22 but 3 changes on the bench. Defence a little taller. Snell replaces KPDs when they rest. Attack more mobile. Still using Jordon as a tagger. Warner rotating through the midfield.
Hard to see bigger change than that.
Taking away injury games he goes down to 39% which is almost the amount of time that some of our tactical subs have had
Not arguing with your stats but I see the interchange as an integral part of the team. In this case a 7 man defence. Each member should spend approx 86% ToG (6/7). Snell would spend 28% relieving Melican and McCartin, 28% relieving Blakey and Rampe and 28% allowing Rampe to relieve Roberts and Cunningham. Never exactly of course but that's the shape that it should work. The problem with a short/medium 7th is that it forces Rampe or Blakey to relieve the keys. That's a weakness.
The waste would be using any bench player that way.
I'm pretty pleased with the Datolli pick up, and I think Cleary will come on a bit. These two buying in and being those up and down 6th/7th forwards in the 22 could be a real boost. Fills a real need
Mills and Sheldrick getting amongst it in the middle thickening the soup.
Snell establishing himself seems possible
Amartey taking another step with a full preseason
These are some things to look forward to
Mills and Sheldrick getting amongst it in the middle thickening the soup.
Snell establishing himself seems possible
Amartey taking another step with a full preseason
These are some things to look forward to
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Amartey isn’t much at all
He will be dropped at some point imo
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I'll go out on a limb and say he won't get a game until we get an injury or two.
The perennial "emergency"
Lol ok.
I'd say you must have been keeping tabs on me, but this is a poor recounting.
That the team/coaches were shit on GF day (again) is beyond debate. Gameplan and preparation clearly a part of that. I have posted a lot about what I'd do moving forward.
I've never said any of our players are shit in general. I defend our players if others abuse them.
I've never said Horse is shit in general. I wasn't in the Sack Horse camp.
I think the only time I've mentioned the psychologist is to bring up Fox's comments post-GF a couple of times (and I suspect that didn't start with her).
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I still need to be reminded how sh.t they were in case I get sucked in again too soon before the season starts & I start thinking they are as good as the players think they are when winning Home & away games while finger twirling after a goal during their awesome wins again the real sh.t teams of the comp.
Yeah I still need to read it if that's ok with you.
