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Man, we are so shit. Any half decent team beats us by double digits today. Thank god this game and the Philly game were not reversed.
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Jamal finally on IR. Hopefully that now puts an end to his time here and we can move on from the worst trade in franchise history.
Losing to the Steelers..........that basically ends our season. Don't care about the last game of the season - even if we win and results go our way, we are losing badly in the playoffs.
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Back to not being able to tackle. Surely these clowns practice tackling. I have no idea how they can get to this level and be so bad.
Would have thought tackling would be the most important (and basic) skill of any defensive player. The mind boggles.....
Season over - no playoffs but we didn't deserve it. Would have been cannon fodder next week. At least I can watch the playoffs without any stress.
Big offseason coming - changes are needed. Hurtt needs to go. I am 50/50 on Pete going but something has to change.
Wasted the talents of JSN and Spoon. Myers cost us. Geno shouldn't have been extended. And our defence forgot how to tackle.
Big offseason coming - changes are needed. Hurtt needs to go. I am 50/50 on Pete going but something has to change.
Wasted the talents of JSN and Spoon. Myers cost us. Geno shouldn't have been extended. And our defence forgot how to tackle.
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I'm glad we didn't make it. This team have been dogshit and don't deserve it.
Thankfully the season is over and now we can clean house. I'd be asking Pete to do an LSU and just get rid of all the defensive coaches.
Thankfully the season is over and now we can clean house. I'd be asking Pete to do an LSU and just get rid of all the defensive coaches.
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We can’t stop the run. O’Conner was massive today.
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What in the actual **** is happening? I don't think anyone saw this coming. The organisation better not **** up Pete's replacement here.
Thanks for the Superbowl, Pete.
Thanks for the Superbowl, Pete.
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He is staying on as an advisor so I don’t think there is any bad blood. Good timing for a new coach imo. We have some good young talent on the roster.
Thanks for the memories Pete.....truly changed our team and city.
I will reserve my judgement if the decision was the right call - the replacement and new coaching staff will be interesting
I will reserve my judgement if the decision was the right call - the replacement and new coaching staff will be interesting
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Stoked. Initially I wanted an offensive guy but crucially his defence has thwarted both Shanahan and McVay which is something Pete couldn't do. He also seemed like the best choice available and the fact that we were willing to wait and not make a quick hire like other organisations says a lot about how we rated him.
LFG!!! Really happy with the hire, good times ahead
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Pretty happy with our draft. Kept it simple and took BPA for positions of need and did nothing stupid.
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Scheme to fuel Seahawks revival on D?
Pete Carroll took the Seahawks to unprecedented heights for the franchise by utilizing a Cover 3 defensive scheme that spawned copycats around the league. Although the defense ultimately fell apart after the Legion of Boom broke up, Seattle could be on the verge of a similar rise with head coach Mike Macdonald coming on board and implementing the hottest defensive scheme in football.
A seasoned assistant coach with the Ravens, Macdonald spent a year as the University of Michigan's defensive coordinator (2021) before taking the DC job in Baltimore and leading one of the NFL's top defenses in each of the past two seasons. He directed the No. 1 scoring D last season, utilizing tactics and strategies that could sprout throughout the league, with three of his former assistants (Baltimore's Zach Orr, Miami's Anthony Weaver and Tennessee's Dennard Wilson) and his successor at Michigan (the Chargers' Jesse Minter) landing defensive play-calling gigs this offseason.
As the scheme director who features simulated pressures and blitzes that were popularized in the college game, Macdonald deserves credit for crafting game plans that enable defenders to play fast and free between the lines. Though the system looks complex to the offense, the Xs and Os are easily digestible for defenders.
After speaking to players and coaches familiar with the defense, I believe the secret sauce lies in Macdonald's ability to teach his scheme, categorizing his play calls in buckets that make the learning easy for everyone. Macdonald teaches defenders the entire concept, instead of only their assignment, creating a plug-and-play system that enables the coach to run the same blitzes and pressures from different personnel packages.
To the offense, the different presentations of the same blitz create chaos, but the defense is simply executing its favorite blitz patterns with defenders switching roles. The approach is frequently touted by defensive coordinators around the league, but few have executed it like Macdonald and his staff. From playing a game of musical chairs in practice with defenders running through the same blitz from various positions to utilizing one-word play calls that set the front, pressure pattern and coverage, Macdonald finds a way to unlock his players' talents through creative scheming that enables them to play at a breakneck pace.
In Seattle, he inherits a talented defense with a core of playmaking veterans that could make the scheme pop. In fact, Macdonald might have a more talented unit in Seattle than he did with the Ravens last season. That statement might be hard to fathom, based on the Seahawks' defensive struggles in 2023 (ranked 30th in total defense, 25th in scoring, 31st in run defense and 21st in pass defense). However, the core of Leonard Williams, Dre’Mont Jones, Jarran Reed, Uchenna Nwosu, Riq Woolen and Devon Witherspoon is a collection of potential rock stars waiting to break out as a band. With a handful of veteran free-agent signees (Tyrel Dodson, Jerome Baker and Rayshawn Jenkins) and a few breakout candidates (Boye Mafe, Darrell Taylor, Coby Bryant and rookie Byron Murphy II) in place to help the group get back on track, Macdonald has the ingredients to put together a top-10 defense in his first season on the job.
Looking at their talents, the Seahawks have the trench warriors needed to create chaos at the line of scrimmage. Williams, Jones and Mafe combined for 17.5 sacks in 2023 in a scheme that did not feature "smoke and mirrors" calls designed to get free rushers to the quarterback. With Nwosu (9.5 sacks in 2022) rejoining the lineup after a torn pectoral muscle ended his 2023 campaign after six games, the Seahawks have four defenders who could pressure the passer from multiple angles. Furthermore, as Macdonald begins to experiment with second- and third-level pass rushers who offer disruptive potential, we could see the Seahawks utilize Baker (22.5 career sacks), Taylor (21.5 career sacks) and Witherspoon (three sacks in 2023) to heat up opposing signal-callers. The pieces are in place for the defensive play-caller to befuddle offenses with misdirection at the point of attack, creating easy sack opportunities.
Given the talent and athleticism in the Seahawks' secondary, Macdonald could mix and match coverage concepts. This would allow the overall deception to go to another level, with opposing quarterbacks unable to predict the coverage behind the pressure.
Though the pieces will need to come together quickly, the combination of scheme, learning environment and high standards could result in a surge similar to the one Seattle's defense experienced in the early 2010s, when the Legion of Boom dominated the league and the Seahawks emerged as perennial title contenders.
Pete Carroll took the Seahawks to unprecedented heights for the franchise by utilizing a Cover 3 defensive scheme that spawned copycats around the league. Although the defense ultimately fell apart after the Legion of Boom broke up, Seattle could be on the verge of a similar rise with head coach Mike Macdonald coming on board and implementing the hottest defensive scheme in football.
A seasoned assistant coach with the Ravens, Macdonald spent a year as the University of Michigan's defensive coordinator (2021) before taking the DC job in Baltimore and leading one of the NFL's top defenses in each of the past two seasons. He directed the No. 1 scoring D last season, utilizing tactics and strategies that could sprout throughout the league, with three of his former assistants (Baltimore's Zach Orr, Miami's Anthony Weaver and Tennessee's Dennard Wilson) and his successor at Michigan (the Chargers' Jesse Minter) landing defensive play-calling gigs this offseason.
As the scheme director who features simulated pressures and blitzes that were popularized in the college game, Macdonald deserves credit for crafting game plans that enable defenders to play fast and free between the lines. Though the system looks complex to the offense, the Xs and Os are easily digestible for defenders.
After speaking to players and coaches familiar with the defense, I believe the secret sauce lies in Macdonald's ability to teach his scheme, categorizing his play calls in buckets that make the learning easy for everyone. Macdonald teaches defenders the entire concept, instead of only their assignment, creating a plug-and-play system that enables the coach to run the same blitzes and pressures from different personnel packages.
To the offense, the different presentations of the same blitz create chaos, but the defense is simply executing its favorite blitz patterns with defenders switching roles. The approach is frequently touted by defensive coordinators around the league, but few have executed it like Macdonald and his staff. From playing a game of musical chairs in practice with defenders running through the same blitz from various positions to utilizing one-word play calls that set the front, pressure pattern and coverage, Macdonald finds a way to unlock his players' talents through creative scheming that enables them to play at a breakneck pace.
In Seattle, he inherits a talented defense with a core of playmaking veterans that could make the scheme pop. In fact, Macdonald might have a more talented unit in Seattle than he did with the Ravens last season. That statement might be hard to fathom, based on the Seahawks' defensive struggles in 2023 (ranked 30th in total defense, 25th in scoring, 31st in run defense and 21st in pass defense). However, the core of Leonard Williams, Dre’Mont Jones, Jarran Reed, Uchenna Nwosu, Riq Woolen and Devon Witherspoon is a collection of potential rock stars waiting to break out as a band. With a handful of veteran free-agent signees (Tyrel Dodson, Jerome Baker and Rayshawn Jenkins) and a few breakout candidates (Boye Mafe, Darrell Taylor, Coby Bryant and rookie Byron Murphy II) in place to help the group get back on track, Macdonald has the ingredients to put together a top-10 defense in his first season on the job.
Looking at their talents, the Seahawks have the trench warriors needed to create chaos at the line of scrimmage. Williams, Jones and Mafe combined for 17.5 sacks in 2023 in a scheme that did not feature "smoke and mirrors" calls designed to get free rushers to the quarterback. With Nwosu (9.5 sacks in 2022) rejoining the lineup after a torn pectoral muscle ended his 2023 campaign after six games, the Seahawks have four defenders who could pressure the passer from multiple angles. Furthermore, as Macdonald begins to experiment with second- and third-level pass rushers who offer disruptive potential, we could see the Seahawks utilize Baker (22.5 career sacks), Taylor (21.5 career sacks) and Witherspoon (three sacks in 2023) to heat up opposing signal-callers. The pieces are in place for the defensive play-caller to befuddle offenses with misdirection at the point of attack, creating easy sack opportunities.
Given the talent and athleticism in the Seahawks' secondary, Macdonald could mix and match coverage concepts. This would allow the overall deception to go to another level, with opposing quarterbacks unable to predict the coverage behind the pressure.
Though the pieces will need to come together quickly, the combination of scheme, learning environment and high standards could result in a surge similar to the one Seattle's defense experienced in the early 2010s, when the Legion of Boom dominated the league and the Seahawks emerged as perennial title contenders.
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Only pre-season game 1 and both teams played few starters but man the difference in defence from last year was amazing. We could actually stop the run and stick tackles. Byron Murphy is going to be an absolute beast. Already getting double teamed and still impacting the play. The one play he got triple teamed and still pushed the offence back into the QB effecting the throw and allowing Mafe to tip it was ridiculous.
The running game with McIntosh and Holani gives me a lot of encouragement that we can cope when K9 eventually gets injured. I already knew how good KMac is but Holani came out of nowhere in the 2nd and 3rd quarter when we took KMac out of the game.
For all the negativity surrounding Sam Howell I thought he was good. PJ Walker was the pick of the two for me. Some ridiculous clutch throws on 3rd down that made him look like a seasoned pro.
The only negatives from the game was it was a Chargers home game so we had to listen to the Chargers broadcast.
The running game with McIntosh and Holani gives me a lot of encouragement that we can cope when K9 eventually gets injured. I already knew how good KMac is but Holani came out of nowhere in the 2nd and 3rd quarter when we took KMac out of the game.
For all the negativity surrounding Sam Howell I thought he was good. PJ Walker was the pick of the two for me. Some ridiculous clutch throws on 3rd down that made him look like a seasoned pro.
The only negatives from the game was it was a Chargers home game so we had to listen to the Chargers broadcast.
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This is gonna be good. I love Mike Rob on the mic.
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Classic tale of two halves with the score flattering Denver in the end. That O-Line though. Geno is going to get killed if they don't sort their shit out. The right side was particularly horrid.
The defence were boss. It is so nice have a defence that can stop the run and tackle once again. Mafe was unstoppable but props to Murphy and Williams constantly being double teamed and still being able to effect the play. They both opened up some nice holes for the linebackers to get into and get pressure on Nix or stop the run at or behind the line.
I do worry about how we will look against better sides. If we can't fix our offensive line issues then opposition defences will be licking their lips.
The defence were boss. It is so nice have a defence that can stop the run and tackle once again. Mafe was unstoppable but props to Murphy and Williams constantly being double teamed and still being able to effect the play. They both opened up some nice holes for the linebackers to get into and get pressure on Nix or stop the run at or behind the line.
I do worry about how we will look against better sides. If we can't fix our offensive line issues then opposition defences will be licking their lips.
