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Its a Home and Away season award thoIf we beat Hawthorn, both Port and Brisbane would've finished above them in both comps, yet they won the 'champion club' award.
McClelland trophy should be AFL only. Just highlights more of the strangeness behind the weird split award.
I put this in the other thread, but they could do it 1000x better by having a men's and a women's one.If we beat Hawthorn, both Port and Brisbane would've finished above them in both comps, yet they won the 'champion club' award.
McClelland trophy should be AFL only. Just highlights more of the strangeness behind the weird split award.
I know, it's just a bit strange as an award.Its a Home and Away season award tho
Yep. Agree totallyI put this in the other thread, but they could do it 1000x better by having a men's and a women's one.
New. Yeah, that's kinda the point. Finally they're celebrating minor round success, but they are doing it in a weird way.Did we ever get any money when we won 4 McClellands, or is that a new thing?
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It made sense when the VFL gave winning pts for league games (10 pts), less points for reserves wins (4) and a bit less for U/19's wins (2).I know, it's just a bit strange as an award.
Did that award used to give points for finals wins as well? Feels like I remember that?It made sense when the VFL gave winning pts for league games (10 pts), less points for reserves wins (4) and a bit less for U/19's wins (2).
SANFL did the same thing but it also had U/17's and awarded the Stanley H Lewis Trophy. Its now awarded over 5 grades, men's, women's, reserve's, U/18 and U/16.
Points allocated have changed over the years but currently for a win are;
Stanley H Lewis Trophy - SANFL
sanfl.com.au
- Men’s League win – 100 points
- Women’s League win – 100 points
- Reserves win – 50 points
- Under 18 win – 50 points
- Under 16 win – 25 points
The doubling the points for a win in AFLW is just DEI bullshit. The original trophy was that the seniors mattered more and lets face it, the men's comp matters more than the women's. if you want equality, then its 4 points for any win in either competition and bad luck that women only play 10 games not 17 or 23.
The biggest problem with it is that the Women only play the 11 games. How you finish a season is even more influenced by which teams you play against. Hawthorn played 1 top 4 side, and they lost to the Crows.The doubling the points for a win in AFLW is just DEI bullshit. The original trophy was that the seniors mattered more and lets face it, the men's comp matters more than the women's. if you want equality, then its 4 points for any win in either competition and bad luck that women only play 10 games not 17 or 23.
I was thinking that re the uneven draw and that the men's comp is uneven but at least you play everyone once. I couldn't be arsed looking up who Hawthorn had played.The biggest problem with it is that the Women only play the 11 games. How you finish a season is even more influenced by which teams you play against. Hawthorn played 1 top 4 side, and they lost to the Crows.
Hawthorn played 3 top 8 opponents in their 11 games. Brisbane played 2. We played 4.
It's quite crazy when you look at their minor round draw.Hawthorn played 3 top 8 opponents in their 11 games. Brisbane played 2. We played 4.
If you were to speak from anyone at Port or Brisbane, I'd say there's only 1 trophy they're interested in.It's quite crazy when you look at their minor round draw.
They went 1-1 against top 8, 0-1 against top 4. Then lost the first final to a top 4 side.
We went 0-4 against top 8, 0-3 against top 4. Then won our first final against the only top 8 side they beat.
They went 9-0 against bottom 10.
We went 7-0 against bottom 10.
So analysing that, there is only the smallest difference possible in minor round results there, in that we lost to the Tigers. However even their win against Richmond was 1 week ago Vs ours early in the season. So even though we didn't beat them earlier in the season, we've also beaten them recently.
So no matter which way you look at it, the draw Vs their draw really stiffed us out of a chance to finish top 4, and also stiffed us out of the chance of winning the McClelland. If we draw 2 more games against bottom 10 teams like they did, take away those 2 extra top 4 games, and win them, we draw level on points in the McClelland, and without the % losses we copped Vs the top 4 sides, we're probably sitting here in the top 4 in AFLW, having won the trophy.
This is just another of the reasons why I think the current McClelland setup is stupid.
I'm thought Brisbane might've had similar complaints, but they played 2 top 4 sides and then 9 games against bottom 10 sides. So their draw again was softer than ours. Give them one more bottom 10 side and take away that top 4 game though, and they also might've won the trophy.