Resource SFA Season 36 Fixture, Ladder and Statistics Thread

[Wosh]

The Warriors are constantly near the top of the ladder, they'd be one of the most successful Qooty teams of all time if we had an EPL-like structure with no finals.

The #WazzaWobbles

 

[Tonga Bob]

Are you not familiar with the Kennett Kennedy curse?
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PUT A SEAT BELT ON YOU IDIOT!

 

[Dinsdale]

PUT A SEAT BELT ON YOU IDIOT!

Weeeeeeeeee!!!!!

 

[Falconista]

PUT A SEAT BELT ON YOU IDIOT!

Admin abuse, huh..?
Enjoy your ban.

 

[Ocha905]

Admin abuse, huh..?
Enjoy your ban.

Brah Tonga Bob just saved their life. He's the hero we don't deserve.

 

[Dinsdale]

Admin abuse, huh..?
Enjoy your ban.

Derr, admins already know they are idiots, why else would the do this job.

Like the idiots who are moderators on the Bay.

 

[Tonga Bob]

Admin abuse, huh..?
Enjoy your ban.

 

[Falconista]

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I hope for your sake that's not the escalator to nowhere.

 

[Tonga Bob]

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I hope for your sake that's not the escalator to nowhere.

 

[fumbler]

SEASON 36 LADDER AFTER ROUND SEVEN:

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Headlines:

• Three on the trot for Bears after outclassing Baghdad.
• Accurate Gumbies triumph over Dragons.
• Demons return to the winners circle.
• pantskyle massive as Warriors belt Furies.
• Swamprats go back-to-back to continue Royals' woe.
• Five for Bonz in game 150 as Old Boys win.

Results:

Baghdad Bombers 15.8 (98) defeated by Las Vegas Bears 19.9 (123) LINK
Dragons FFC 7.10 (52) defeated by Gumbies FFC 14.2 (86) LINK
Roys FFC 11.7 (73) defeated by Mount Buller Demons 19.5 (119) LINK
Coney Island Warriors 17.13 (115) defeat Fighting Furies 6.6 (42) LINK
Gold City Royals 12.9 (81) defeated by Sin City Swamprats 17.11 (113) LINK
West Coast Wonders 12.13 (85) defeated by Ophidian Old Boys 19.15 (129) LINK

Win Ratio Ladder After Round Seven:

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Ladder in previous format:

                        P  W  L  D Pen  For  Agst     %    Pts Streak
Coney Island Warriors   6  5  1  -   -  785  596  131.71%   20   5W
Las Vegas Bears         7  5  2  -   -  761  684  111.26%   20   3W
East Side Phoenix       6  4  2  -   -  679  634  107.10%   16   3W
Gumbies FFC             7  4  3  -   -  547  595   91.93%   16   2W
Baghdad Bombers         6  3  3  -   -  669  583  114.75%   12   2L
West Coast Wonders      6  3  3  -   -  609  622   97.91%   12   3L
Roys FFC                7  3  4  -   -  686  740   92.70%   12   2L
Sin City Swamprats      7  3  4  -   -  622  707   87.98%   12   2W
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Dragons FFC             7  3  4  -   -  580  676   85.80%   12   2L
Ophidian Old Boys       6  4  2  -   6  616  580  106.21%   10   1W
Mount Buller Demons     6  2  4  -   -  630  664   94.88%    8   1W
Fighting Furies         6  2  4  -   -  515  612   84.15%    8   1L
Gold City Royals        7  1  6  -   -  630  636   99.06%    4   5L

Round Eight Fixtures:

Fighting Furies v Gumbies FFC @ rfctigerarmy's hippodrome
Mount Buller Demons v East Side Phoenix @ Snow Dome
Roys FFC v Baghdad Bombers @ Brunswick Junction Oval [MOTR]
Ophidian Old Boys v Gold City Royals @ Spotswood Oval
Sin City Swamprats v Las Vegas Bears @ Underground Stadium
West Coast Wonders v Coney Island Warriors @ The Colosseum
BYE: Dragons FFC

Derp.
Win Ratio Ladder is WRONG.
You have a club with 4 wins under 4 other clubs and have their win ratio percentage totally wrong.

You math fumbler good.

 

[Falconista]

Derp.
Win Ratio Ladder is WRONG.
You have a club with 4 wins under 4 other clubs and have their win ratio percentage totally wrong.

You math fumbler good.

Possible premiership points available thus far to the Old Boys- 24 (6 matches).
Premiership points obtained by the Old Boys thus far- 10.

10/24= 41.666666666recurring. Therefore to one decimal point, Old Boys ratio is 41.7%.

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[fumbler]

Possible premiership points available thus far to the Old Boys- 24 (6 matches).
Premiership points obtained by the Old Boys thus far- 10.

10/24= 41.666666666recurring. Therefore to one decimal point, Old Boys ratio is 41.7%.

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In your Win Ratio Ladder you have a club on 4 wins under clubs with less.

How do minus points affect a win ratio?
Also minus points have zero to do with Wins, so your winning percentage is wrong as i posted.

I appologise if English and maths are not your first language, no, no i don't.

 

[grumbleguts]

In your Win Ratio Ladder you have a club on 4 wins under clubs with less.

How do minus points affect a win ratio?
Also minus points have zero to do with Wins, so your winning percentage is wrong as i posted.

I appologise if English and maths are not your first language, no, no i don't.

WOW! He actually explained this to you perfectly. OK, I am going to type this slowly so the person reading it to you will read it at a rate you understand.

Your position on the ladder is determined by the number of POINTS you have NOT the number of wins. The win ratio is the number if POINTS you have won compared to the number of points you COULD have won.

The team with 10 points COULD Have won 24 points.
The teams with 12 points ABOVE THEM could have won 28 points.
12/28 is a bigger number than 10/24.

Please read this to fumbler out loud and slowly. Show him a calculator if necessary.
Then read him the numbers.

 

[The Filth Wizard]

Yeah take that fumbler.

 

[King Tenz]

WOW! He actually explained this to you perfectly. OK, I am going to type this slowly so the person reading it to you will read it at a rate you understand.

Your position on the ladder is determined by the number of POINTS you have NOT the number of wins. The win ratio is the number if POINTS you have won compared to the number of points you COULD have won.

The team with 10 points COULD Have won 24 points.
The teams with 12 points ABOVE THEM could have won 28 points.
12/28 is a bigger number than 10/24.

Please read this to fumbler out loud and slowly. Show him a calculator if necessary.
Then read him the numbers.

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

Falconista posts the ladder up top then posts the exact same ladder under win loss ratio. What's the point of having the win ratio ladder heading at all?

When I see 'win-loss ratio ladder' I expect to see it in order of actual win-loss, without penalities applied.

 

[grumbleguts]

SEASON 36 LADDER AFTER ROUND SIX:

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Headlines:

• Seven Itsmyshow goals critical in Phoenix win.
• Furies wonderful despite a -6 DT from one of their players.
• Chat Pile's career best goal tally too much for Wonders.
• Bears kick the last ten goals of the match to power past Old Boys.
• Warriors hang on to take top spot.
• A mint result! Mint-loving Swamprats cause boilover against the Roys.

Results:

Baghdad Bombers 15.12 (102) defeated by East Side Phoenix 19.12 (126) LINK
Fighting Furies 20.13 (133) defeat Dragons FFC 14.6 (90) LINK
Gumbies FFC 13.10 (88) defeat West Coast Wonders 9.9 (63) LINK
Las Vegas Bears 17.7 (109) defeat Ophidian Old Boys 10.6 (66) LINK
Gold City Royals 14.6 (90) defeated by Coney Island Warriors 15.8 (98) LINK
Sin City Swamprats 20.7 (127) defeat Roys FFC 11.13 (79) LINK

Win Ratio Ladder After Round Six:

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Ladder in previous format:

                        P  W  L  D Pen  For  Agst     %    Pts Streak
Coney Island Warriors   5  4  1  -   -  670  554  120.94%   16   4W
Las Vegas Bears         6  4  2  -   -  638  586  108.87%   16   2W
East Side Phoenix       6  4  2  -   -  679  634  107.10%   16   3W
Baghdad Bombers         5  3  2  -   -  571  460  124.13%   12   1L
West Coast Wonders      5  3  2  -   -  524  493  106.29%   12   2L
Roys FFC                6  3  3  -   -  613  621   98.71%   12   1L
Dragons FFC             6  3  3  -   -  528  590   89.49%   12   1L
Gumbies FFC             6  3  3  -   -  461  543   84.90%   12   1W
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Fighting Furies         5  2  3  -   -  473  497   95.17%    8   1W
Sin City Swamprats      6  2  4  -   -  509  626   81.31%    8   1W
Ophidian Old Boys       5  3  2  -   6  487  495   98.38%    6   1L
Gold City Royals        6  1  5  -   -  549  523  104.97%    4   4L
Mount Buller Demons     5  1  4  -   -  511  591   86.46%    4   4L

Round Seven Fixtures:

Baghdad Bombers v Las Vegas Bears @ Abdu Prison [MOTR]
Dragons FFC v Gumbies FFC @ Ljp86's Lair
Roys FFC v Mount Buller Demons @ Brunswick Junction Oval
Coney Island Warriors v Fighting Furies @ Van Cordlandt Park
Gold City Royals v Sin City Swamprats @ The Golden Throne
West Coast Wonders v Ophidian Old Boys @ The Colosseum
BYE: East Side Phoenix

The link to the Bears Old boys game is actually the link to the Royals Warriors game.

 

[grumbleguts]

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

Falconista posts the ladder up top then posts the exact same ladder under win loss ratio. What's the point of having the win ratio ladder heading at all?

When I see 'win-loss ratio ladder' I expect to see it in order of actual win-loss, without penalities applied.

No, the win ratio is based on the points per game. Some teams have played 7 games and some have played 6.

Imagine a scenario where a team had played 6 and won six and had 24 points.
Another team had played 9 and won 7 and was on 28 points.

The team on 6 wins on a ratio ladder has a 100% (24/24) would be on top, The team with 7 wins (1 more win) has a ratio of 28/36 = 85.7% they would be below the other team despite having more wins.

The complication of this seasons ladder is it has to take in to account penalties.

Penalties aside if you had no byes there wouldn't be a ratio ladder as there'd be no need.

 

[Mobbs]

I literally have no idea what you're talking about.

Falconista posts the ladder up top then posts the exact same ladder under win loss ratio. What's the point of having the win ratio ladder heading at all?

When I see 'win-loss ratio ladder' I expect to see it in order of actual win-loss, without penalities applied.

Nah the purpose of a win/loss ratio ladder is purely and only to give a chance to see the ladder without the differing numbers of byes attached to all the clubs, at midpoints of the season.

 

[King Tenz]

No, the win ratio is based on the points per game. Some teams have played 7 games and some have played 6.

Imagine a scenario where a team had played 6 and won six and had 24 points.
Another team had played 9 and won 7 and was on 28 points.

The team on 6 wins on a ratio ladder has a 100% (24/24) would be on top, The team with 7 wins (1 more win) has a ratio of 28/36 = 85.7% they would be below the other team despite having more wins.

The complication of this seasons ladder is it has to take in to account penalties.

Penalties aside if you had no byes there wouldn't be a ratio ladder as there'd be no need.

Righto.

The Old Boys have a 4W 2L record, meaning a win ratio of 66.7%. Meaning under the "win-loss ratio ladder" they should be sitting equal 3rd, right behind whoever the HELL the Phoenix are on percentage.

Why post the exact same ladder, twice?

Look we got a "SEASON 36 LADDER AFTER ROUND SEVEN" ladder and then a "Win Ratio Ladder After Round Seven" ladder. I want the REAL ladder with penalties applied under the first heading, then the REAL win-loss ratio ladder posted under the 2nd, without penalties.

Otherwise just straight up remove the win-loss ratio ladder all together.

 

[grumbleguts]

Righto.

The Old Boys have a 4W 2L record, meaning a win ratio of 66.7%. Meaning under the "win-loss ratio ladder" they should be sitting equal 3rd, right behind whoever the HELL the Phoenix are on percentage.

Why post the exact same ladder, twice?

Look we got a "SEASON 36 LADDER AFTER ROUND SEVEN" ladder and then a "Win Ratio Ladder After Round Seven" ladder. I want the REAL ladder with penalties applied under the first heading, then the REAL win-loss ratio ladder posted under the 2nd, without penalties.

Otherwise just straight up remove the win-loss ratio ladder all together.

Wow!

 

[King Tenz]

Wow!

Yes!

 

[grumbleguts]

Yes!

No as in "WOW! how could someone be so thick?"

 

[King Tenz]

No as in "WOW! how could someone be so thick?"

Well, you aren't very nice, campaigner.

 

[King Tenz]

No as in "WOW! how could someone be so thick?"

Tell me when I'm telling lies though, campaigner.

 

[grumbleguts]

sigh Look, it's quite simple. The extra ladder is there for when there is a discrepancy due to byes affecting the ladder position. It happens all the time.

Here is the ladder form round 11 in the VFL this year which had multiple byes throughout the season.

Team	P	PTS	%	W	L	D	For	Against
Brisbane Lions	9​	36​	170.3​	9​	0​	0​	974​	572​
Gold Coast Suns	10​	36​	161.5​	9​	1​	0​	1140​	706​
Box Hill Hawks	9​	28​	154.8​	7​	2​	0​	876​	566​
Werribee Tigers	9​	28​	143​	7​	2​	0​	812​	568​
Casey Demons	10​	28​	121.7​	7​	3​	0​	925​	760​
Williamstown	9​	28​	121.3​	7​	2​	0​	712​	587​
North Melbourne	10​	24​	112.6​	6​	4​	0​	874​	776​
GWS Giants	9​	24​	95.5​	6​	3​	0​	759​	795​
Richmond	9​	22​	100​	5​	3​	1​	697​	697​
Carlton	10​	20​	105.1​	5​	5​	0​	719​	684​
Geelong	9​	18​	73.4​	4​	4​	1​	590​	804​
Southport	10​	16​	120.2​	4​	6​	0​	868​	722​
Collingwood	9​	16​	101.5​	4​	5​	0​	791​	779​
Port Melbourne	10​	16​	87.8​	4​	6​	0​	766​	872​
Footscray Bulldogs	9​	12​	87.7​	3​	6​	0​	693​	790​
Sandringham Zebras	9​	12​	84.7​	3​	6​	0​	609​	719​
Frankston	9​	12​	77.6​	3​	6​	0​	585​	754​
Essendon	10​	8​	85.1​	2​	8​	0​	730​	858​
Northern Bullants	9​	8​	68.4​	2​	7​	0​	580​	848​
Sydney Swans	8​	0​	61.7​	0​	8​	0​	466​	755​
Coburg Lions	10​	0​	47.9​	0​	10​	0​	510​	1064​

Here is the same ladder when ratio is taken into account:

Team	P	PTS	%	W	L	D	For	Against	Ratio
Brisbane Lions	9​	36​	170.3​	9​	0​	0​	974​	572​	100​
Gold Coast Suns	10​	36​	161.5​	9​	1​	0​	1140​	706​	90​
Box Hill Hawks	9​	28​	154.8​	7​	2​	0​	876​	566​	77.77778​
Werribee Tigers	9​	28​	143​	7​	2​	0​	812​	568​	77.77778​
Williamstown	9​	28​	121.3​	7​	2​	0​	712​	587​	77.77778​
Casey Demons	10​	28​	121.7​	7​	3​	0​	925​	760​	70​
GWS Giants	9​	24​	95.5​	6​	3​	0​	759​	795​	66.66667​
Richmond	9​	22​	100​	5​	3​	1​	697​	697​	61.11111​
North Melbourne	10​	24​	112.6​	6​	4​	0​	874​	776​	60​
Carlton	10​	20​	105.1​	5​	5​	0​	719​	684​	50​
Geelong	9​	18​	73.4​	4​	4​	1​	590​	804​	50​
Collingwood	9​	16​	101.5​	4​	5​	0​	791​	779​	44.44444​
Southport	10​	16​	120.2​	4​	6​	0​	868​	722​	40​
Port Melbourne	10​	16​	87.8​	4​	6​	0​	766​	872​	40​
Footscray Bulldogs	9​	12​	87.7​	3​	6​	0​	693​	790​	33.33333​
Sandringham Zebras	9​	12​	84.7​	3​	6​	0​	609​	719​	33.33333​
Frankston	9​	12​	77.6​	3​	6​	0​	585​	754​	33.33333​
Northern Bullants	9​	8​	68.4​	2​	7​	0​	580​	848​	22.22222​
Essendon	10​	8​	85.1​	2​	8​	0​	730​	858​	20​
Sydney Swans	8​	0​	61.7​	0​	8​	0​	466​	755​	0​
Coburg Lions	10​	0​	47.9​	0​	10​	0​	510​	1064​	0​

Several teams have moved position because the ladder changes depending on whether you have had a bye or not.

Tell me when I'm telling lies though, campaigner.