In what regard??
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In what regard??
I reckon its working Ok.
What do you think the problem/s are?
I may be missing something.
I just think it would be easier to manage if the points were tallied up on match day if your club happens to get injuries you can't replace a points player .
I believe the Central murray do it this way but there every player has a points value no zeros.
Some clubs there have not had a full interchange bench to lower there tally for the day. Not desirable I reckon.
You can always replace a player with a kid if your club has done the right thing and developed juniors and are willing to give them a crack.
The top clubs here seem to have low points totals anyway so the system is working for them.
i don't reckon that evening up the comp was the main aim of the system, but rather to prevent clubs blowing their finances on buying a flag. its pretty obvious in the SFL that if you do this you will end up stuffed for a long time. You only have to look at the clubs here that have done it.
An evening up of the comp would be a bi-product of the process. If clubs decided that they would be better served by concentrating on junior development and the development of a culture at the club that attracts players and makes them stay then they would be be better off.
Imps did it for years others are now getting the idea.
This sort of approach breeds success, success improves your finances. if your club then uses that wisely you're made
If no points whats the alternative???
Tend to agree with that you can't tell me that the difference between robin vale and say merbs or reddy is a couple of 5pointers also you don't get any rewards for home grown young blokes that leave the district eg imps this year hards x 2 rohdes Shepard douglas Kelly hickey cameron ect ect
Robinvales points last year were not high. Irymples were not high neither were Imps. The difference between these side and Merbein and Red Cliffs was the quality of the local players that each side had and the club culture that existed at the clubs.
its not a matter of a couple of five pointers but a matter of time. good administration and wise decisions that will lift merbien and Red Cliffs.
A couple of good five pointers will help though as will a steady stream of committed juniors.
its not a matter of a couple of five pointers but a matter of time. good administration and wise decisions that will lift merbien and Red Cliffs.
A couple of good five pointers will help though as will a steady stream of committed juniors.
Spot on Hillite.... especially the bit about junior development and the development of the culture at your football club...
Perhaps they will be prepared to linger outside the four for a few years 'til a bit of talent comes through, or they could take another track, go mad with the cash get a bit of temp success and maybe end up a basket case.
We can only hope.
usedtobethin
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they did make the g/f last year so they have a few. its getting harder to keep even the u/18 players at clubs now with the millewa (and others) offering them cash to play out there. the points system has to be across every league.
Some of you blokes make some reasonable points, but if the points system was not introduced, how many clubs would we still have? I bet it would'nt be eight. South Mildura nearly went under after their G/F in 1998 because they paid too many too much. Several other Clubs have stretched their budgets to breaking point as well over the last few years. A points system needs to be bought in state wide, it's the only way to stop these minor league Clubs rapeing and pillaging major league teams. The weekly points system is flawed, some teams bring in high point players for a big game and can't fill the bench, and a nightmare for Club officials trying to work out who can and can't play that day.
so do you think the Balranald boys are coming for petrol money catguts???? I don't think so!!!! 5 from their alone at being very very conservative $2500 a week i wonder what the supporter think of that ???? Will they go under after this year???
How could South fit in 5 from the Central Murray L. ( would that be 5 times three or five times four points)
I thought their points were high last year to fit in another fifteen would seem very difficult.
An average of $500 a game for these blokes. They better be good.
Will they put South into the Finals?
If so at whose expence???
I hear the rumour that some south blokes are turning up at other clubs already.
Its get into south day today.
The Talented Mr Ripley
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three out of the five are absolute guns, they will tear teams appart the other two would fit into any sunraysia league rep team i do expect fitzty or harris to win the league medal...
think you will find cambell and fitzgerald x1 will not be contracted senior players, they will be in and out of the ones. They both played at south previously so they are 0 points and cambell only played 2's then
All 5 will play 1's easily, Chiltern, Fitzgerald and Harris will represent league. Harris will finish runner up in league B&F............to Fitzgerald.
2.5k is very conservative, 2 of these blokes would have got that between them last year let alone the other 3 blokes.
Roota Dont mix up the central murray or mallee with the SFL the player payments hear are in check......
Its simple boys great players in the SFL can get on average $400 - $500 per game....that is not over paid if there good. Problem with the other leagues is that those exact players would be offered $1500 – $2000 per game.
Some players in the SFL would receive more then the 4 to 500 mentioned and that’s because the club needs them or simply have the room to move to pay the extra cash they should not be berated for being financially strong.
Never have I seen a player come to a club and demand an amount and then demand a game. They play for what they are offered if you cant pay it don’t offer it!! That falls squarely on the management of the club not the player!!!!
Good thing about the SFL is we are not competing with the other leagues. If the player wants more money they no where to get it and they simply leave.
As for the points system it is great and has worked very well in SFL. But yes in my opinion it could be better. My thoughts are as follows
1.) Game day counting: Offers a more transparent system. (The clubs via the SFL still have the right to review players with the SFL’s decision being final). If a club is abusing the system and fall over there points then they play with 1 or 2 less players till the points quota is meet. Only 3 on the bench now, reduce that to 2 or 1 and I doubt they will win any way. Team managers do the team sheet on the computer now there is even a column for the points. Why not USE IT!!! Points players who are injured should not be counted the way it stands now if you reach your points quota no more clearances will be allowed to your club. Not practical at all.
2.) 1 player free: currently the rule states the coach is free: great if you already have a 0 pointer coaching you club. Byrnes Iry, Willo Sth, Moncur Rob, Alvey WW would all be 0 now. This would save clubs such as Sth having to name joint coaches its simple each club should be able to subtract 1 players points from the days counting’s.
3.) Pioneer player add backs should be just cancelled when the boys come back they will be 0 anyway. Why give a team extra points to recuit extra players when boys come back and play in the byes and the finals. it just complicates things. Only extra points that should be added are the position on the ladder 1s and the remote area.
The point system is a must and has worked but it should not come at the cost of the development of the league. Supporters want to see great players and clubs need to be given the tools to allow that to happen.
Gone are the days when teams go out and buy flags……in the SFL anyway. The points system is the reason for that. Minor alterations to it will only in improve all 8 clubs that form the SFL.
Its simple boys great players in the SFL can get on average $400 - $500 per game....that is not over paid if there good. Problem with the other leagues is that those exact players would be offered $1500 – $2000 per game.
Some players in the SFL would receive more then the 4 to 500 mentioned and that’s because the club needs them or simply have the room to move to pay the extra cash they should not be berated for being financially strong.
Never have I seen a player come to a club and demand an amount and then demand a game. They play for what they are offered if you cant pay it don’t offer it!! That falls squarely on the management of the club not the player!!!!
Good thing about the SFL is we are not competing with the other leagues. If the player wants more money they no where to get it and they simply leave.
As for the points system it is great and has worked very well in SFL. But yes in my opinion it could be better. My thoughts are as follows
1.) Game day counting: Offers a more transparent system. (The clubs via the SFL still have the right to review players with the SFL’s decision being final). If a club is abusing the system and fall over there points then they play with 1 or 2 less players till the points quota is meet. Only 3 on the bench now, reduce that to 2 or 1 and I doubt they will win any way. Team managers do the team sheet on the computer now there is even a column for the points. Why not USE IT!!! Points players who are injured should not be counted the way it stands now if you reach your points quota no more clearances will be allowed to your club. Not practical at all.
2.) 1 player free: currently the rule states the coach is free: great if you already have a 0 pointer coaching you club. Byrnes Iry, Willo Sth, Moncur Rob, Alvey WW would all be 0 now. This would save clubs such as Sth having to name joint coaches its simple each club should be able to subtract 1 players points from the days counting’s.
3.) Pioneer player add backs should be just cancelled when the boys come back they will be 0 anyway. Why give a team extra points to recuit extra players when boys come back and play in the byes and the finals. it just complicates things. Only extra points that should be added are the position on the ladder 1s and the remote area.
The point system is a must and has worked but it should not come at the cost of the development of the league. Supporters want to see great players and clubs need to be given the tools to allow that to happen.
Gone are the days when teams go out and buy flags……in the SFL anyway. The points system is the reason for that. Minor alterations to it will only in improve all 8 clubs that form the SFL.
inthestands
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Delray, I have in the past been involved in recruiting for a club in the central murray and have been in competition with sunraysia clubs for players. On a number of occassions we were out bid by those sunraysia clubs, two of those times we were outbid by imps and the amount was well over the $500 mark. I actually agree in the points system as it is the only way to have any form of regulation. I believe a lot of clubs conceal the actual amounts paid as there would be a uproar in some sections of any club if they knew the true amounts paid.
Interesting and I thought Imps were pure and wholesome in the area of recruiting.
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