That’s because you are an idiot. Three first round picks for any player in the wooden spoon team would be a massive start the car moment. It could actually reverse the Dimma leaving gift of Taranto & Hopper.
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Trade Requested Shai Bolton [UFA 2028] - Wants to join the Dockers
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I would actually prefer a non vic team winning the flag so you wont get an argument from me hereAm I getting worked up? Fair from it. I would love to see Freo won a flag vs a non Vic side.
Hell I have no issues if 2 non Vic sides made this year's grand final . LoL
Richmond is the only Vic team i want winning flags
Idiot is harsh
TBF its very hard to be completely objective in that scenario
They know just how good Shai can be and part of being a fan is this hope that the club can turn it around quickly and jump back up but from an outsiders perspective, there are just too many holes in that list that need filling and unfortunately its all around the park.
Its reasonable for outsiders to say they should cut ties and kickstart the rebuild but fans of Richmond have developed a relationship with these players, its very hard to look at them as just cattle or pawns in the Trade market.
Yes alot of Collingwood supporters were called delusional idiots in 2021 before winning the premiership 2023
Richmond have Taranto , Hopper , Balta , Baker , Vlastuin , Rioli , Lynch , Broad , Bolton , Nankervis currently on the list
also another 10-15 kids that other clubs supporters just dont see enough and dont really know what they will become which have 1-3 years in the system that are now starting to get games.
Add another 5 kids inside 40 this year.
Richmond wont be North Melbourne
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Yeah, if you rebuild well you'll rebound like the other non academy and F/S and teams such as Richmond from 2006, Carlton since 2013, Hawks and Freo from about 2016/17.
Like i said there are more tools these days compared to 2006
But selling your top players with 5/6+ years is not a great way to do this as well
You mentioned Carlton , They traded out players to get picks to burn these picks and players like 2E are still running around
Betts was let go when he was a cultural player just to save $50k
Draft picks unless top 3 /5 are very hit miss
I didnt want to post this quote but think its appropriate drom the Richmond board
How will you have 5-6 picks under pick 30 at the end of the year?
What do you mean by bounce in 3-4 years?
he's no Brayshaw
This is a dumb argument when it comes to an individual players worth. Bolton is incredibly talented and doesn't need this meaningless argument. Richo was 10x the key forward of many premiership forwards... or do you disagree?
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Of course you do.I would actually prefer a non vic team winning the flag so you wont get an argument from me here
Richmond is the only Vic team i want winning flags
But to Be Burtally honest of the 3 grand finals Richmond was involved in.
2017: I usually barrack for the non vic side. But some crows fans were unbearable bragging about being undefeated in grand finals. I hated the crows stance and news about Dustin Martins father shoved down my throat on a daily basis. Only sided with richmond as I wanted a drought broken.
2019: GWS vs Richmond. I wanted GWS to win, even though there was a 10-20 percent chance of happening after GWS had a gruelling semi final vs Brisbane and that prelim vs Collingwood at the MCG. That meant GWS would of won a flag before The dockers, I wouldnt of cared. Richmond had the game won by half time. Alex Rance sadly did his knee in round 1. He could of been on the team sheet and spend the whole game on the bench in that grand final. the outcome was inevitable.
2020: Richmond vs Cats. I didnt care who won. I prefered Richmond to win in that 2020 grand final.
Given he has a long term contract and multiple years of his best footy left, we really only trade him for way overs, which is likely a price Freo or WC would not want to pay, understandably, but equally there's no incentive for us without the deal being well in our favour.
no offence
But there are 20 brayshaws in the afl, actually closer to 50 in playing style and impact
Brayshaw is a minimal impact accumulator, who doesn't kick goals, do you realise that Shai actually averages more centre clearances than him over his career
There is only one Shai
Do not get it twisted
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Bolton is a cream player with an AA
Brayshaw is MVP Bnf winner (top 3 4 years running) younger and a plug in and play skipper material.
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Andrew Brayshaw is the best player in the league according to his peers, with the AFL playing cohort voting him in as the winner of the AFL Players' Association Most Valuable Player. The 22-year-old is the fourth youngest winner of the Leigh Matthews Trophyand the youngest since Nick Riewoldt in 2004.24 Aug 2022
Players association , means nothing
he is the same as another 20 vanilla low impact , non goal kicking midfielders
The whole thing only works if Bolton wants out. You never try and offload someone who wants to stay unless they are bringing the club down.
I watched his game on the weekend and it was a very good audition until he got to 4 goals and seem to try everything for his 5th rather than doing the team things. Players seem to get traded to teams they player really well against, Rory Lobb and Bulldogs being an example. I use to think it was due to their performance, why the new team wanted them but maybe the performance is due to the knowledge they are interested so playing well gets you a new contract & trade. Things seem to occur a long way in advance these days.
Obviously it can all be a coincidence too and they just happen to play well that game.
Both clubs hold what the other club needs.
Who’s the more needy here?
Fremantle could sure use Bolton, but he’s not the only fish in the sea and with their bounty of draft picks, they can pursue other options.
Richmond need draft picks, and they need them now with Tassie on the horizon.
They can hold Bolton for sure, but what does it really achieve for both club and player.
I think the Tigers have to get active here.
Ridiculous demands won’t help their cause as Freo always have the option of exploring other avenues.
Richmond should and would be well compensated by Fremantle, but in their current circumstances, it’s in their best interests to forget the bravado and accept the reality …
Who’s the more needy here?
Fremantle could sure use Bolton, but he’s not the only fish in the sea and with their bounty of draft picks, they can pursue other options.
Richmond need draft picks, and they need them now with Tassie on the horizon.
They can hold Bolton for sure, but what does it really achieve for both club and player.
I think the Tigers have to get active here.
Ridiculous demands won’t help their cause as Freo always have the option of exploring other avenues.
Richmond should and would be well compensated by Fremantle, but in their current circumstances, it’s in their best interests to forget the bravado and accept the reality …
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Think we’ll try for Warner first, and if the swans dig in will offer a combo of the highest and lowest firsts for Shai and something back.
Then just look towards the draft, and moving picks into next year.
Then just look towards the draft, and moving picks into next year.
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