List Mgmt. Should The Eagles Request A Priority Assistance Package at The End of This Year?

[Mulldogg]

Balls In is right with how little shits the AFL gives to promoting football over here. I mean look how much they kick in to stadium shit for example in every other state. Very much taken for granted, fixturing this year with that round zero bollocks on top of gather round etc.

We should be asking for a package, especially with forced concussion retirements, those should generate some sort of replacement pick.

Yep, sorry Balls In I couldn’t pick up what you were putting down in terms of player movements from WA over east but we’re very much taken for granted as the largest “traditional” football state outside of Victoria.

AFL dollars generated in WA being socialised to be thrown at rugby states and funding their grass root programs to the detriment of WA footy.

I think we should definitely ask the question for some assistance given the last three years and the current state of our list but in all likelihood we’ll again get the taken for granted treatment (e.g only won a flag in 2018, 100k members, still regularly getting 45k to home games etc.)

 

[DorothyG]

Would say no normally but the highly compromised draft like last year when pick 19 becomes pick 30 means we should

Man, I am still filthy about this 12 months on.

We were historically one of the worse teams ever last year, like dying Fitzroy bad. Lost by 170 pts and countless +100.

And we get P1 (fair enough) and then nothing till P30?! Why didn't the club make so much more noise about this? I'm not one for hand outs, but we deserved to receive what we deserved at a minimum. There needs to be a much bigger penalty for jumping que on draft night (like if you really want a FS/Academy lad, you need to really pay for it).

I do find it hilarious that clearly the AFL orchestrated the situation where North were able to receive Harley Ried by offering us 2+3, yet North being North couldn't even do that correctly

 

[kranky al]

Hating whatever your version of socialism is aside, what does this mean?

WA kids get drafted over east, and eastern states kids come here. What’s the risk to generations of young people? Kids aren’t going to stop playing footy because the Eagles are bad. One of the WA clubs has nearly always been an also ran while the other is up and about, very rarely are we both up at the same time.

Utterly shocked he didn’t invoke the “woke” boogieman as well….

 

[kranky al]

Man, I am still filthy about this 12 months on.

We were historically one of the worse teams ever last year, like dying Fitzroy bad. Lost by 170 pts and countless +100.

And we get P1 (fair enough) and then nothing till P30?! Why didn't the club make so much more noise about this? I'm not one for hand outs, but we deserved to receive what we deserved at a minimum. There needs to be a much bigger penalty for jumping que on draft night (like if you really want a FS/Academy lad, you need to really pay for it).

I do find it hilarious that clearly the AFL orchestrated the situation where North were able to receive Harley Ried by offering us 2+3, yet North being North couldn't even do that correctly

Our club are pathetic at standing up to the afl’s bullshit we quite literally sat there and watched nn get suspended for a rule they invented on the spot and said nothing.

AFL gfs at mcg till I’m dead and buried and not a funking peep.

Threatened with deregistration for players taking drugs while they try to hush up a club deliberately injecting players with ped’s

We are snivelling cowards.

 

[Cuzz09]

Just draft and trade in WA blokes.

Make it a purely WA side and embrace the us v them.



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[Lyyynnnchy]

Just draft and trade in WA blokes.

Make it a purely WA side and embrace the us v them.



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And if another H Reid comes along?

 

[bzparkes]

Just draft and trade in WA blokes.

Make it a purely WA side and embrace the us v them.



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Great, I'm sure that way we can make it to the dizzying heights of 10th...

 

[Balls In]

Yep, sorry Balls In I couldn’t pick up what you were putting down in terms of player movements from WA over east but we’re very much taken for granted as the largest “traditional” football state outside of Victoria.

Of all the players in AFL who came from WA originally, 60% of them are playing interstate as compared to Victoria who have only 33% of their home grown talent playing interstate. In an era of the go home factor, the quiet draft tampering by pampered Vic kids and free agency, that puts us at a disadvantage especially where we are basically trying to rebuild our club from scratch through the draft.

Our local investment and player development overwhelmingly benefits entities far removed from any contribution to those same players. Then because that impacts our entertainment value as a club supported by millions but delivering unwatchable crap week in week out it damages the entire grassroots of footy in our state because kids aren't seeing elite talent and blockbuster games in their own backyard.

 

[MrWoollie]

Just draft and trade in WA blokes.

Make it a purely WA side and embrace the us v them.

And if another H Reid comes along?

Love watching Harley develop and hope he stays.
But I'd trade a young HR for a young Buddy Franklin and Patrick Cripps any day.

 

[Lazzas]

Love watching Harley develop and hope he stays.
But I'd trade a young HR for a young Buddy Franklin and Patrick Cripps any day.

How long since WA produced these two? Even if similar players become available. You have to be in a position to draft them.

 

[bzparkes]

Love watching Harley develop and hope he stays.
But I'd trade a young HR for a young Buddy Franklin and Patrick Cripps any day.

Not at the time you wouldn't. You need to remember where those blokes were picked.

Also, who's to say he doesn't end up better than both of them?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Of all the players in AFL who came from WA originally, 60% of them are playing interstate as compared to Victoria who have only 33% of their home grown talent playing interstate. In an era of the go home factor, the quiet draft tampering by pampered Vic kids and free agency, that puts us at a disadvantage especially where we are basically trying to rebuild our club from scratch through the draft.

Our local investment and player development overwhelmingly benefits entities far removed from any contribution to those same players. Then because that impacts our entertainment value as a club supported by millions but delivering unwatchable crap week in week out it damages the entire grassroots of footy in our state because kids aren't seeing elite talent and blockbuster games in their own backyard.

Doesn’t this conceptually put us at an advantage? More of our home grown players are interstate, and more players request trades home, so we have a larger % of go home players and only need to split them with Freo, versus a smaller percentage of go home players split between 10 clubs?

Kids want to see top talent, as in the Harley Reid’s of the world. They don’t care what state they were from initially. Nic Nat would have brought kids to the footy regardless of what state he was from, being local had very little to do with it. Blues fans seem pretty happy with Cripps, Hawks and Swans fans turned out in droves for Buddy.

And grass roots participation in WA was at its highest ever level last year, when Freo missed the finals and we won the spoon.

 

[MrWoollie]

How long since WA produced these two? Even if similar players become available. You have to be in a position to draft them.

Not at the time you wouldn't. You need to remember where those blokes were picked.

Also, who's to say he doesn't end up better than both of them?

My comment was a reply to the theoretical idea of a regional, tribal, State of Origin concept of a national competition. WA clubs selecting WA players from effectively a WA zone, SA doing the same and so on.

I'm guessing it was largely driven by the fact that WA loses more home grown talent than it picks up interstate talent. And it's just getting worse with the increasing level of draft tampering by stay at home Vic Metro woosie boys. When a club has to pass on talent like Sheezel, and the AFL allows guys like Sheezel and Wardlaw to get away with draft tampering we are left with a situation where WCE have the worst of both worlds; a restricted pool of interstate talent while the local talent is a national free for all.

On the surface a local talent at local clubs tribal system has a lot of merit. Very us vs. them.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

It's wild seeing Norf fans get all indignant when the topic of assistance packages come up, arguing they haven't actually received anything

 

[Knifey Spoony]

I wonder if the AFL sees giving us a PP that must be traded as a potential leg up for us and Richmond considering Baker is the most likely player to trade it for.

 

[archiemoses]

We really need two priority picks to assist getting some deals done

 

[stallon]

With the way Richmond is headed with all the blokes out the door, and how Melbourne is tracking, I expect it will improve our case for a priority pick.

They will no doubt be expecting to have to give picks to both Richmond and Melbourne in the next few years, especially if tassy ruins their draft hands.

Itd be very hard to justify if they dont give us something too, and the only time to do it is this year


They seem to be trending overall towards a more complicated draft anyway, whats a couple of priority picks in there, they just blend into the madness

 

[ziad]

I suggest you are dreaming. Nothing is what we will be offered.

 

[kranky al]

Not at the time you wouldn't. You need to remember where those blokes were picked.

Also, who's to say he doesn't end up better than both of them?

He will be better than Cripps for sure.

Cripps is treacle slow in an era of fast midfields.

 

[kranky al]

With the way Richmond is headed with all the blokes out the door, and how Melbourne is tracking, I expect it will improve our case for a priority pick.

They will no doubt be expecting to have to give picks to both Richmond and Melbourne in the next few years, especially if tassy ruins their draft hands.

Itd be very hard to justify if they dont give us something too, and the only time to do it is this year


They seem to be trending overall towards a more complicated draft anyway, whats a couple of priority picks in there, they just blend into the madness

If we get something it will be ordinary.

Pick 28 or suchlike

 

[Campaigner for good]

If we get something it will be ordinary.

Pick 28 or suchlike

Even 28 helps!

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

I'd be hoping that we are pushing our case even further now after the VAFL looked after the boys club by delaying drafting picks two years in advance.
If we had this mechanism to bring in picks this year, it would enable us to get more capital in to get deals done.

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

Next year, less than 5 wins I am gunning for a pick straight after our first + Pick 11 or something in the realm of.

 

[WCE_phil]

If the club can't get some serious trades over the line and have senior players back up as well as possible we could go back to 2-3 wins.

At that stage it becomes pretty hard for the AFL not to give priority picks. That would work out since the mid season break to be 15 wins from 100 with no assistance.

 

[ArdentEagle]

If the club can't get some serious trades over the line and have senior players back up as well as possible we could go back to 2-3 wins.

At that stage it becomes pretty hard for the AFL not to give priority picks. That would work out since the mid season break to be 15 wins from 100 with no assistance.

Have there been any talks of PP from the club itself and even anything from AFL? Surely we get them.