Opinion Should the Premiership Cup be called the Barassi Cup?

[Occidental]

The NRL cup is called the Provan-Summons Trophy.

Because it is an actual statue that depicts both men. It’s not a generic cup. The trophy is of their images.

 

[RAPPA]

Should be called the Bootsma Cup

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

There's obviously a lot of emotion and outpouring after the death of the great man. There is no rush to a decision required.

Grief and love/lust are the worst times to make decisions. Much better to wait till the emotions have returned to a more stable state.

Geewizz I wish I knew this 30 years ago. Instead I ran ecstaticaly into the witch's den with my mind lost, and have still not found my way out.

Just click the heels of your ruby slippers and say "There's no place like home" 3 times. It's that one trick divorce lawyers don't want you to know about.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Yep, go for it I think.

10 flags as an individual is phenomenal and impossible to see it ever being bettered.

Nobody really has a good argument otherwise. People just say “nah, it doesn’t have to have a name”. Yeah… really convincing argument.

Do it.

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

Yep, go for it I think.

10 flags as an individual is phenomenal and impossible to see it ever being bettered.

Nobody really has a good argument otherwise. People just say “nah, it doesn’t have to have a name”. Yeah… really convincing argument.

Do it.

Fos Williams bettered it, didn't he? You're not calling for his name on it.
EDIT: I think he Played/Coached in 6, and only coached 3, so 9. Still, I think it's a very VFL oriented idea.

 

[HairyO]

I think Barassi ,Carey, Ablett snr and Lockett need some recognition in awards.

Someone wants to muddy Barassi's name out of jealousy ?

 

[Captain_Bender]

No surprises that insecure West Coast supporters are melting, VFL and AFL are the same league

 

[Zevon]

I don’t really have a firm opinion either way, but I find the argument “we can’t name an AFL trophy after Barassi because he was a VFL great” to be a weird one. On that basis we should rename the Norm Smith or the Brownlow, and to my knowledge nobody wants that.

Barassi still had a stack of influence on the game after it became a national competition anyway, so the point is moot.

 

[PizzaPie]

I couldn't have confidently told you whether or not it was already named after someone before this week. I can't think of any reason for it not to be named after anyone as a rule, and as such, Ron Barassi wouldn't be a bad choice if it is to be named after someone.

 

[Engimal v3]

I disagree

Not up for debate, unfortunately

 

[Occidental]

Rename Yarra Park to Barassi Park. Every time to go to the MCG, you walk through Barassi Park.

 

[Waspy79]

Fos Williams bettered it, didn't he? You're not calling for his name on it.
EDIT: I think he Played/Coached in 6, and only coached 3, so 9. Still, I think it's a very VFL oriented idea.

Check John Cahill's record at Port Adelaide. 4x premiership player, 10x premiership coach.

No to Barassi Cup - it's no longer the VFL as much as Victorians want it to be.

 

[bzparkes]

Yes because he is the number 1 AFL identity in history

A whopping 13 wins over 3 seasons at the Swans in the 90s isn't really a compelling argument for him being and 'AFL' identity.

 

[PhatBoy]

The NRL cup is called the Provan-Summons Trophy.

Makes it easier to do when the two players it’s named after ARE the actual trophy

 

[Feraligatr]

I don't think so, he is a legend of the game but most of his achievements are VFL and we now have a national game. Why name it after Barassi and not after other states legends who have also added to our game?

I don't think the premiership Cup should be named after anyone. Its just the cup and that's how it should be.

 

[Daka]

I have the upmost respect for Barassi, but I think it should always be kept the Premiership Cup.

 

[PieLebo87]

VFL/AFL argument aside, I voted no. Not everything needs to have a name and it takes nothing away from his achievements if he didn’t have something named after him.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

The best of ground is already named after a MFC identity. Melbourne and indeed Victoria having a monopoly on naming rights to these things doesn’t sit well with me in a national competition. Probably leave it alone I’d say.

So no.

The mcg however IS a Victorian institution….Naming a stand after him is most appropriate. The mcg has two stands named after cricketers and none after footballers. Rename the Olympic stand I reckon.

 

[1990crow]

National competition. No.

If anything there's too much old VFL representation in the current awards.

 

[Inspecta Gadget]

Ron Barassi is really only a legend at 3 clubs.

Adrian Dodoro is a legend at 17.

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

“we can’t name an AFL trophy after Barassi because he was a VFL great” to be a weird one. On that basis we should rename the Norm Smith or the Brownlow, and to my knowledge nobody wants that.

The majority of those awards were named for VFL players when it was the VFL. I think now it's the AFL, it's not the same thing.

To be honest, I really don't mind, I just find claims he was the greatest, therefore X a bit myopic. There were greats in the major leagues and Barassi sits comfortably at the top echelon. If the powers that be decide to name something after him, fine, but in fairness, there's others they be naming things after too.

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

Check John Cahill's record at Port Adelaide. 4x premiership player, 10x premiership coach.

No to Barassi Cup - it's no longer the VFL as much as Victorians want it to be.

Bugger, apologies! I knew there was a Port legend who had an unbelievable record.

 

[Zevon]

The majority of those awards were named for VFL players when it was the VFL. I think now it's the AFL, it's not the same thing.

To be honest, I really don't mind, I just find claims he was the greatest, therefore X a bit myopic. There were greats in the major leagues and Barassi sits comfortably at the top echelon. If the powers that be decide to name something after him, fine, but in fairness, there's others they be naming things after too.

It’s not unreasonable what you’re saying, but in the case of Barassi specifically, he had a sufficiently significant impact on the national competition that I wouldn’t be against the renaming of the cup on the basis of him only being a VFL great.

Like I said though, I’m not really fussed whether it happens or not so long as he’s honoured in some way.

 

[Algorithmic Hot Takes]

It’s not unreasonable what you’re saying, but in the case of Barassi specifically, he had a sufficiently significant impact on the national competition that I wouldn’t be against the renaming of the cup on the basis of him only being a VFL great.

Like I said though, I’m not really fussed whether it happens or not so long as he’s honoured in some way.

Agreed. I think there will be a something big before the GF and some memorial award/event for him, as there should.

 

[PerthBoy86]

The best of ground is already named after a MFC identity. Melbourne and indeed Victoria having a monopoly on naming rights to these things doesn’t sit well with me in a national competition. Probably leave it alone I’d say.

So no.

The mcg however IS a Victorian institution….Naming a stand after him is most appropriate. The mcg has two stands named after cricketers and none after footballers. Rename the Olympic stand I reckon.

Yeah really deserves a stand named after him.